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Old 11-02-2015, 07:59 PM   #341
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I really wish O'Malley would run out of money and bolt soon. Then Sanders could utilize the entire debate time to take on Clinton head-on.

Unfortunately, he's gaining quite a bit of traction in Iowa, mostly due to making far more campaign stops in the state than the other two candidates. Looks like he'll be in it until at least the caucus.
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Can somebody tell me a little about O'Malley or suggest a good overview? All I've read about the Democrat primaries is very much Clinton vs Sanders.
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O'Malley: successful governor of Maryland. Hardline democrat. Adheres to all of the same principals that Clinton does, although major foreign policy difference is that he doesn't believe in a nuclear Iran and is very pro-Israel, I believe. Most of his voting audience is already voting for Clinton.

Decent candidate. Logical, and doesn't get stomped on very easily. Most likely trying to bid for a VP spot, given his lack of polling success.
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And he's a total DILF.
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One of his big negatives is that he's been trying to appear as a leftist alternative to Clinton throughout the entire campaign when his track record is arguably to her right. It hasn't helped that Sanders pretty much locked up the liberal section of the electorate.

The other problem is that his record in Baltimore, particularly concerning race relations, was absolutely abysmal by any definition. Doesn't help that he's running in this particular climate or that black voters make up a very large bloc of the Democratic primary voters.
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Decent candidate. Logical, and doesn't get stomped on very easily. Most likely trying to bid for a VP spot, given his lack of polling success.
VP slot will go to the biggest and most exciting name (with limited baggage) that Clinton can add to her ticket that also agrees with her on policy decisions. O'Malley isn't the former and Sanders isn't the latter.
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Can somebody tell me a little about O'Malley or suggest a good overview? All I've read about the Democrat primaries is very much Clinton vs Sanders.
Seasons 3 through 5 of The Wire, apparently.
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Oh hey guys, I just realized that one year from today is when Hillary gets elected.
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And he's a total DILF.
and the fact that i got what that means immediately means that i am just a perv.
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Can somebody tell me a little about O'Malley or suggest a good overview? All I've read about the Democrat primaries is very much Clinton vs Sanders.
well it's about Hilary vs Bernie with very minor bitching from Larry Lessig.
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VP slot will go to the biggest and most exciting name (with limited baggage) that Clinton can add to her ticket that also agrees with her on policy decisions. O'Malley isn't the former and Sanders isn't the latter.

Yeah I don't know about that.

Just like Joe Biden with Obama, Hillary's ticket is going to be a low key VP who has otherwise been successful throughout their career. "Exciting" VPs have, in recent history, proven to backfire fast.
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Oh hey guys, I just realized that one year from today is when Hillary gets elected.
Great, I can't wait!
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Great, I can't wait!

Vlad, I don't mean this to be insulting or mean in any way, but: sometimes, I wish you would be a little more open about your socialism on this forum. You tend to shy away from it and hide behind a bit of snark. It doesn't bother me or anything that you don't talk about it much, but I think it would be a valuable addition to FYM if you wanted to.


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Can we just fast forward to this and end the campaign bullshit?
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Yeah I don't know about that.

Just like Joe Biden with Obama, Hillary's ticket is going to be a low key VP who has otherwise been successful throughout their career. "Exciting" VPs have, in recent history, proven to backfire fast.
I equate "exciting" with tokenism, so a relatively boring candidate who is black and/or latino and/or female is what I'm expecting. All of those would immensely help in the get-out-the-vote drive.
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I equate "exciting" with tokenism, so a relatively boring candidate who is black and/or latino and/or female is what I'm expecting. All of those would immensely help in the get-out-the-vote drive.

Wow... So anyone who's not white and male is just token?


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No. But when Hillary tacks them on to the ticket specifically to energize a certain group then probably.
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You know...I can't help but notice that nearly every post you've made in here over the last few weeks has made mention of the race of candidates...
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No. But when Hillary tacks them on to the ticket specifically to energize a certain group then probably.

That makes ZERO sense.


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2016 US Presidential Election Pt. III

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I equate "exciting" with tokenism, so a relatively boring candidate who is black and/or latino and/or female is what I'm expecting. All of those would immensely help in the get-out-the-vote drive.

And I'm disagreeing.

2000: bringing a conservative, Jewish Joe Lieberman onto Al Gore's ticket was often questioned and probably hurt him.

2008: bringing a female as a token to compete with Obama's ethnicity, who just so happened to be an idiot, was the ultimate demise for John McCain. I say this strictly because Sarah Palin was tokenism, and I think it was disgusting.

Hillary IS the unprecedented portion of her ticket. She's looking to become the first female president. She's going to choose a boring VP candidate that lacks serious diversity, but has experience.

At least. This is my belief. My secondary belief is that she will just choose whoever is actually best for her campaign.
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