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Old 09-17-2015, 09:06 PM   #1001
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Old 09-18-2015, 03:01 AM   #1003
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Watching some more of the debate...Paul growing on me. The marijuana smackdown on Christie was amazing.

But...anti-vaxxer .

The only people on this stage that look like might be OK leaders are Kasich, Paul and MAYBE Bush. He really is doing terrible, though, Bush.

Trump seems like he really wants to be someone who can leads.

Oh God...gun debate...fucking hell.
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of all the nominees

there are only 2 Sanders has a slim chance of beating



they are Hillary and Biden, if he gets past them, he would lose to any in the GOP that get the nom, Trump would beat him in a land slide.



If Biden gets the nomination, he is a sure loser.





party insiders, can not always stop a disaster nomination i.e. Goldwater in 64

McGovern in 72



Sanders falls in the category of Goldwater or McGovern as a sure loser

Trump is not in that category.

I am a Sanders guy and I fear you may be right. However, I would also remind you that you were saying these same things about the president in 2008 - that if he beat Hillary in the primaries he wouldn't stand a chance in the general, that McCain would crush him, etc.


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Rand was actually pretty good. Not as, like, a dominant force in the debate but he was solid as a fact-checker. At least until the anti-vax garbage.

Kasich is clearly trying to endear himself to moderates by not being insane on stage, which is why donors will go for Bush or Rubio instead. He's so out of step and fashion (he seems proud to be a career politician with Trump and Carson in the room) and I think it's great. Problem for me is that his policies fly in the face of all of this. We couldn't possibly be more in disagreement on countless issues. But he also seems to understand what diplomacy is, which I value in a president.

Walker, Huckabee and Christie are just taking up space. Enough. Trump was entertaining as always, though he predictably had less and less to say as the night went on. Fiorina has all the charm and personality and Hillary, but with scores of frightening policies. No thanks. Carson actually pushed specific ideas instead of abstract ideals, which was refreshing, but I still can't see this guy as a leader of anything.

There were other people on stage but meh.
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2016 US Presidential Election Pt. II

I'll say this about Kasich...as a progressive in Ohio, I didn't vote for the guy for governor and I obviously can't stand his politics, but he did do one thing that has had a legitimate, tangible, positive effect on my life, and that is that he allowed the medicaid expansion to happen here, to the extreme ire of the Republican state congress, and that's been my health coverage for the last year and a half. So I'm appreciative of his having done that when a number of other republican governors didn't.


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I'm surprised by the talk of Romney potentially entering the field. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that - on both sides of US politics - you're basically afforded only the one shot. Get the nomination and blow the election and you're not going to be seriously entertained for a second spin (in contrast to Commonwealth parliamentary systems where some party leaders have led in opposition for over a decade).
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I'm surprised by the talk of Romney potentially entering the field. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that - on both sides of US politics - you're basically afforded only the one shot. Get the nomination and blow the election and you're not going to be seriously entertained for a second spin (in contrast to Commonwealth parliamentary systems where some party leaders have led in opposition for over a decade).
I immediately thought to mention Richard Nixon but of course things have changed in the last 45 years.

I think it's partially the parties not wanting to nominate a "loser" again, and partially people not wanting to put themselves through the stress and costs of more than one campaign.
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