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Old 11-03-2008, 11:31 PM   #941
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Speaking of the Electoral College...this rather nifty graphic from yesterday's New York Times shows each state sized to represent the relative influence of its individual voters in a presidential election. The numbers show how many EC delegates each state has, and how many eligible voters each of its delegates represents.

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After 2000 I re-thought the Electoral College.

All the stuff I was taught about it being a good idea so the big states would not dominate the small states, soon went out the window.


mathematically

a candidate could lose the popular vote 78% to 22% but win the electoral college


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This system, along with the winner-take-all practice used to allocate most states’ electoral votes, creates the potential for an absurd outcome. In the unlikely event that all 213 million eligible voters cast ballots, either John McCain or Barack Obama could win enough states to capture the White House with only 47.8 million strategically located votes. The presidency could be won with just 22 percent of the electorate’s support, only 16 percent of the entire population’s.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:09 AM   #943
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I'm not a great fan of Starbucks, but free coffee is always welcome.
I just read that Krispy Kreme and Chick-Fil-A will be giving away red-white-and-blue donuts and fried chicken sandwiches respectively. So if you're a good liar, you can put yourself together a yummy all-American picnic of coffee, donut, sandwich and ice cream tomorrow! Admit it, no socialist country would ever offer you a deal like that.
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The closest Krispy Kreme to me is about 30 miles away. I haz sad!
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I just read that Krispy Kreme and Chick-Fil-A will be giving away red-white-and-blue donuts and fried chicken sandwiches respectively. So if you're a good liar, you can put yourself together a yummy all-American picnic of coffee, donut, sandwich and ice cream tomorrow! Admit it, no socialist country would ever offer you a deal like that.
You are right, couldn't imagine socialist Germany creating such incentives to vote. All the former GDR could come up with was putting an armed VoPo ("Volkspolice") behind you to help you with the ballot.

But mind you, I live in deep Montana. Neither a Ben & Jerry's, nor a Krispy Kreme, nor a Chick-Fil-A. No all-American picnic for me.
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Today's date - November 4, 2008 - will be a date that high school students will study and memorize for their history tests decades and centuries from now; as far as I'm concerned, there's no doubt about it - today is the day that we as a people will elect the first African-American president in our nation's history!
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I am farther away.

I am most upset about missing out on my free vibrator though. At $15, it's worth a hell of a lot more than the $.99-2.99 food giveaways.
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I am farther away.

I am most upset about missing out on my free vibrator though. At $15, it's worth a hell of a lot more than the $.99-2.99 food giveaways.

God Bless America, indeed.

Just got back - took less than an hour and I got a nifty little "I voted" sticker, too. People who are thinking of staying home should go just for that sticker.

I'm calm yet anxious. I'm going for a run in a little while so that should clear my head some.

PS - I'm missing Tim Russert today already.
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PS - I'm missing Tim Russert today already.
Me too. I've been missing him throughout this whole process. I can't even watch Meet The Press anymore.
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I don't know. I don't think the Republicans can cheat enough to steal this one.
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I'm so excited for my first time voting. I'm about to hop in the shower, and then I'm going. I'm going to be a nervous wreck at work tonight.
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I'm so excited for my first time voting. I'm about to hop in the shower, and then I'm going. I'm going to be a nervous wreck at work tonight.
The first time is the best.
I vividly remember pushing the vote button on my machine back in 2004 and I felt like I made a difference.... oh.
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I vividly remember pushing the vote button on my machine back in 2004 and I felt like I made a difference.... oh.
I was in 11th grade, and we watched Kerry's concession speech in my French class. Then we discussed how the U.S. electorate could be stupid enough to elect Bush again.
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My first Presidential election was 1996 - ah, good times. Going to bed at 11 knowing full well who was going to still be President in the morning.
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OH MY GOSH IT'S ELECTION DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I woke up at 5:30 this morning unable to get back to sleep


It's going to be a loooooooooong night.
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God Bless America, indeed.

Just got back - took less than an hour and I got a nifty little "I voted" sticker, too. People who are thinking of staying home should go just for that sticker.

I'm calm yet anxious. I'm going for a run in a little while so that should clear my head some.

PS - I'm missing Tim Russert today already.

hiya april!

i am looking forward to getting my lil sticker, free coffee, free donut.


I miss Tim too!
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Today's date - November 4, 2008 - will be a date that high school students will study and memorize for their history tests decades and centuries from now; as far as I'm concerned, there's no doubt about it - today is the day that we as a people will elect the first African-American president in our nation's history!


i too, hope for this very thing! well said. It gave me chills reading it.
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I just voted!!!!


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Pulled the lever for Nader, Hawkins for Congress, Yes on a prop for Veterans...

But then also had to vote for a bunch of Dems because there weren't any third party candidates in like five of the local elections.
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You are right, couldn't imagine socialist Germany creating such incentives to vote. All the former GDR could come up with was putting an armed VoPo ("Volkspolice") behind you to help you with the ballot.

But mind you, I live in deep Montana. Neither a Ben & Jerry's, nor a Krispy Kreme, nor a Chick-Fil-A. No all-American picnic for me.
I don't do Chick-fil-a, they're a big contributor to a lot of right wing causes.

El charro and Dominos are 2 more to avoid.
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