2008 U.S. Presidential Campaign Discussion Thread-Part 11 - Page 48

**yolland** · 11-03-2008, 11:31 PM

Speaking of the Electoral College...this rather nifty graphic from yesterday's New York Times shows each state sized to represent the relative influence of its individual voters in a presidential election. The numbers show how many EC delegates each state has, and how many eligible voters each of its delegates represents.

deep · 11-03-2008, 11:59 PM

After 2000 I re-thought the Electoral College.

All the stuff I was taught about it being a good idea so the big states would not dominate the small states, soon went out the window.

mathematically

a candidate could lose the popular vote 78% to 22% but win the electoral college

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This system, along with the winner-take-all practice used to allocate most states’ electoral votes, creates the potential for an absurd outcome. In the unlikely event that all 213 million eligible voters cast ballots, either John McCain or Barack Obama could win enough states to capture the White House with only 47.8 million strategically located votes. The presidency could be won with just 22 percent of the electorate’s support, only 16 percent of the entire population’s.

**yolland** · 11-04-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Vega

I'm not a great fan of Starbucks, but free coffee is always welcome.

I just read that Krispy Kreme and Chick-Fil-A will be giving away red-white-and-blue donuts and fried chicken sandwiches respectively. So if you're a good liar, you can put yourself together a yummy all-American picnic of coffee, donut, sandwich and ice cream tomorrow! Admit it, no socialist country would ever offer you a deal like that.

Lila64 · 11-04-2008, 12:32 AM

The closest Krispy Kreme to me is about 30 miles away. I haz sad!

Vincent Vega · 11-04-2008, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by yolland

I just read that Krispy Kreme and Chick-Fil-A will be giving away red-white-and-blue donuts and fried chicken sandwiches respectively. So if you're a good liar, you can put yourself together a yummy all-American picnic of coffee, donut, sandwich and ice cream tomorrow! Admit it, no socialist country would ever offer you a deal like that.

You are right, couldn't imagine socialist Germany creating such incentives to vote. All the former GDR could come up with was putting an armed VoPo ("Volkspolice") behind you to help you with the ballot.

But mind you, I live in deep Montana. Neither a Ben & Jerry's, nor a Krispy Kreme, nor a Chick-Fil-A. No all-American picnic for me.

namkcuR · 11-04-2008, 01:44 AM

Today's date - November 4, 2008 - will be a date that high school students will study and memorize for their history tests decades and centuries from now; as far as I'm concerned, there's no doubt about it - today is the day that we as a people will elect the first African-American president in our nation's history!

Varitek · 11-04-2008, 06:20 AM

I am farther away.

I am most upset about missing out on my free vibrator though. At $15, it's worth a hell of a lot more than the $.99-2.99 food giveaways.

LarryMullen's POPAngel · 11-04-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Varitek

I am farther away.

I am most upset about missing out on my free vibrator though. At $15, it's worth a hell of a lot more than the $.99-2.99 food giveaways.

God Bless America, indeed.

Just got back - took less than an hour and I got a nifty little "I voted" sticker, too. People who are thinking of staying home should go just for that sticker.

I'm calm yet anxious. I'm going for a run in a little while so that should clear my head some.

PS - I'm missing Tim Russert today already.

Tiger Edge · 11-04-2008, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sue4u2

I love this.
Tried to make this my signature yesterday but discovered I'm not allowed to have a sig. Bummer.

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Originally Posted by LarryMullen's POPAngel

PS - I'm missing Tim Russert today already.

Me too. I've been missing him throughout this whole process. I can't even watch Meet The Press anymore.

martha · 11-04-2008, 07:09 AM

I don't know. I don't think the Republicans can cheat enough to steal this one.

U2isthebest · 11-04-2008, 07:20 AM

I'm so excited for my first time voting.

I'm about to hop in the shower, and then I'm going. I'm going to be a nervous wreck at work tonight.

Tiger Edge · 11-04-2008, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by U2isthebest

I'm so excited for my first time voting.

I'm about to hop in the shower, and then I'm going. I'm going to be a nervous wreck at work tonight.

The first time is the best.

I vividly remember pushing the vote button on my machine back in 2004 and I felt like ~~I made a difference.~~... oh.

U2isthebest · 11-04-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiger Edge

I vividly remember pushing the vote button on my machine back in 2004 and I felt like ~~I made a difference.~~... oh.

I was in 11th grade, and we watched Kerry's concession speech in my French class. Then we discussed how the U.S. electorate could be stupid enough to elect Bush again.

LarryMullen's POPAngel · 11-04-2008, 08:00 AM

My first Presidential election was 1996 - ah, good times. Going to bed at 11 knowing full well who was going to still be President in the morning.

U2democrat · 11-04-2008, 08:07 AM

OH MY GOSH IT'S ELECTION DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I woke up at 5:30 this morning unable to get back to sleep

It's going to be a loooooooooong night.

U2Fanatic4ever · 11-04-2008, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryMullen's POPAngel

God Bless America, indeed.

Just got back - took less than an hour and I got a nifty little "I voted" sticker, too. People who are thinking of staying home should go just for that sticker.

I'm calm yet anxious. I'm going for a run in a little while so that should clear my head some.

PS - I'm missing Tim Russert today already.

hiya april!

i am looking forward to getting my lil sticker, free coffee, free donut.

I miss Tim too!

U2Fanatic4ever · 11-04-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by namkcuR

Today's date - November 4, 2008 - will be a date that high school students will study and memorize for their history tests decades and centuries from now; as far as I'm concerned, there's no doubt about it - today is the day that we as a people will elect the first African-American president in our nation's history!

i too, hope for this very thing! well said.

It gave me chills reading it.

JOFO · 11-04-2008, 08:17 AM

I just voted!!!!

BigMacPhisto · 11-04-2008, 08:22 AM

Pulled the lever for Nader, Hawkins for Congress, Yes on a prop for Veterans...

But then also had to vote for a bunch of Dems because there weren't any third party candidates in like five of the local elections.

toscano · 11-04-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Vega

You are right, couldn't imagine socialist Germany creating such incentives to vote. All the former GDR could come up with was putting an armed VoPo ("Volkspolice") behind you to help you with the ballot.

But mind you, I live in deep Montana. Neither a Ben & Jerry's, nor a Krispy Kreme, nor a Chick-Fil-A. No all-American picnic for me.

I don't do Chick-fil-a, they're a big contributor to a lot of right wing causes.

El charro and Dominos are 2 more to avoid.

11-03-2008, 11:31 PM	#941
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11-04-2008, 12:32 AM	#944
Lila64 Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ♥Set List Lane♥ Posts: 52,894 Local Time: 06:04 AM	The closest Krispy Kreme to me is about 30 miles away. I haz sad!

11-04-2008, 01:44 AM	#946
namkcuR ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 10,727 Local Time: 09:04 AM	Today's date - November 4, 2008 - will be a date that high school students will study and memorize for their history tests decades and centuries from now; as far as I'm concerned, there's no doubt about it - today is the day that we as a people will elect the first African-American president in our nation's history!

11-04-2008, 06:20 AM	#947
Varitek Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: on borderland we run Posts: 16,861 Local Time: 08:04 AM	I am farther away. I am most upset about missing out on my free vibrator though. At $15, it's worth a hell of a lot more than the $.99-2.99 food giveaways.

11-04-2008, 07:09 AM	#950
martha Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place Posts: 42,555 Local Time: 06:04 AM	I don't know. I don't think the Republicans can cheat enough to steal this one.

11-04-2008, 07:20 AM	#951
U2isthebest ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vision over visibility.... Posts: 12,332 Local Time: 09:04 AM	I'm so excited for my first time voting. I'm about to hop in the shower, and then I'm going. I'm going to be a nervous wreck at work tonight.

11-04-2008, 08:00 AM	#954
LarryMullen's POPAngel Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'll be up with the sun, I'm not coming down... Posts: 53,698 Local Time: 08:04 AM	My first Presidential election was 1996 - ah, good times. Going to bed at 11 knowing full well who was going to still be President in the morning.

11-04-2008, 08:07 AM	#955
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 01:04 PM	OH MY GOSH IT'S ELECTION DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I woke up at 5:30 this morning unable to get back to sleep It's going to be a loooooooooong night.

11-04-2008, 08:17 AM	#958
JOFO Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,422 Local Time: 01:04 PM	I just voted!!!!

11-04-2008, 08:22 AM	#959
BigMacPhisto Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 6,313 Local Time: 08:04 AM	Pulled the lever for Nader, Hawkins for Congress, Yes on a prop for Veterans... But then also had to vote for a bunch of Dems because there weren't any third party candidates in like five of the local elections.