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Old 11-03-2008, 01:23 PM   #861
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that is a 'no brainer'.


my hope is that
anyone that has thrown themselves into the "Yes on 8" campaign
should live long enough to be embarrassed about it.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:54 PM   #862
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I am also getting really, really nervous. I think Obama will win, but there's this big part of me that is super paranoid about the dirty tricks that could go down, or that the Bradley effect will be real and huge, or some combination of things, plus, it's just been such a long long time of worrying about this and now we are there.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:00 PM   #863
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I also have serious issues with some of McCain's policies.

But, the big Democratic gains in the Senate and House will prevent those policies from being implemented.
Yeah right. If there's one thing that this spineless Senate has told us, it's that they don't care to stand up to Bush much at all. They're practically a rubber stamp for him. Why should they be any more effective against McCain?
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I had to submit my official prediction for the electoral college to my Government teacher today (he figured out that we would just stay up to hear the results tomorrow night).

I think my prediction was Obama 353, McCain 185.
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according to all the information we have available, Obama should win big.

there's no getting around that.

yes, the information could be egregiously wrong. it is possible.

but it's not like there's movement towards McCain, it's not like Obama's made a gaffe, it's not like there hasn't been poll after poll after poll that has Obama winning. name me the last time Obama trailed in a national poll. show me a poll from OH, VA, IA, NM, NV, and CO that puts Obama behind.

lots of people make their living doing this. they've been generally pretty accurate in the past. this isn't as volatile situation as the NH primary.

the evidence clearly shows that Obama should win big. yes, he could lose. but if he did, there would be a serious, massive reevaluation of ... well, just about everything in regards to the political process.

now, get out there and do what everyone things you're going to do: VOTE.
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according to all the information we have available, Obama should win big.

there's no getting around that.

yes, the information could be egregiously wrong. it is possible.

but it's not like there's movement towards McCain, it's not like Obama's made a gaffe, it's not like there hasn't been poll after poll after poll that has Obama winning. name me the last time Obama trailed in a national poll. show me a poll from OH, VA, IA, NM, NV, and CO that puts Obama behind.

lots of people make their living doing this. they've been generally pretty accurate in the past. this isn't as volatile situation as the NH primary.

the evidence clearly shows that Obama should win big. yes, he could lose. but if he did, there would be a serious, massive reevaluation of ... well, just about everything in regards to the political process.

now, get out there and do what everyone things you're going to do: VOTE.

Today's OH polls:


Ohio FOX News/Rasmussen Obama 49, McCain 49 Tie
Ohio SurveyUSA Obama 48, McCain 46 Obama +2
Ohio Reuters/Zogby Obama 50, McCain 44 Obama +6
Ohio Univ of Cinci/Ohio Poll Obama 52, McCain 46 Obama +6
Ohio Quinnipiac Obama 50, McCain 43 Obama +7

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Latest Polls
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I think my prediction was Obama 353,

perhaps we should take over and under bets, like with football scores.


I would put the line at 344.5

www.538.com puts it at 340.5




under bet is at 340 and less


over bet is at 341 and more.



So make your predictions

under or over 340.5 ?



I will go with

over
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perhaps we should take over and under bets, like with football scores.


I would put the line at 344.5


under bet is at 344 and less


over bet is at 345 and more.
Under - Obama 311
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I do think most Obama fans will take the under bet


they do not want to be greedy

and will be happy with a win

even if it is only 272


but for months now I have been expecting at least 330


and in the last few weeks
Obama's numbers have been improving.


I will stay with my

over 340.5
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Obama 347?

weather report: rain in NC, VA, snow/rain in CO, the rest of the battleground states have nice weather.
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On Saturday's ride I ran across a girl who was parking a VW Golf Cabrio. She had a bumper sticker on the back that she had made out of two others, and it said, "Obama/McCain". I waited for her to get out, and I said, "Interesting bumper sticker".

She sort of giggled and said, "Yeah, I can't decide. I really like them both".

Yeah, that makes total sense

That's like saying that Johnny Depp and Verne Troyer both asked me out but I can't decide
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Yeah, that makes total sense

That's like saying that Johnny Depp and Verne Troyer both asked me out but I can't decide
How tall are you ?

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5'9 and a half

Verne did have a sex tape, but Johnny still wins by a mile
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what if Johnny Depp was a little person?
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what if Johnny Depp was a little person?
If he looked like he does, I'd still let him bang me like a screen door in a hurricane.
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If he looked like he does, I'd still let him bang me like a screen door in a hurricane.
That kind of talk is something we need a lot more of around here...........
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what if Johnny Depp was a little person?

Still wins by a mile
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John McCain's appearance on Saturday Night Live helped the show average a 9.0 household rating/ 20 share in metered markets. Saturday's SNL was only beat out by Sarah Palin's appearance a few weeks ago, which averaged 10.7 rating/ 24 share. McCain's appearance helped SNL garner their second-highest rated program in more than a decade.
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Barack's grandmother died.
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If he looked like he does, I'd still let him bang me like a screen door in a hurricane.
that's real classy, mom...
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