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Rock n' Roll Doggie
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They're not tough questions, and neither were the ones asked of Palin. |
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I agree that these aren't tough questions. They were presented as such, but I don't think a question arguing that Obama is a Marxist qualifies as all that tough.
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A socialist state and a social-democratic state (and Sweden plays a special role in that kind of politics) are not to be confused, mixed or deliberately put as one. And don't kid yourself, to call something, anything, socialism when it comes to US politics is clearly intended to move the direction into a particular direction. It's no secret that you just have to try to imply socialism and some people will think twice about who they are voting for. I don't get the "own medicine" line either. Palin got at least intelligent questions which she should be able to answer. Her answers were awful. But it wasn't Biden or the democratic campaign that asked those questions. The questions went clearly beyond just asking tough questions, they were outright unintelligent. I could understand the Republican campaign as well if they decided not to take questions by that station again. |
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I really don't know what things are like in Germany or Sweden and I would not call Obama a Marxist or even a socialist I do believe it is safe to say that most Americans do not believe it is the job of the American Government to be involved in "the redistribution of wealth". I don't know what you are doing in Montana, perhaps you are on a college campus, where the concept of "the redistribution of wealth" does not alarm students. But I am certain that if you ask the typical person on the street, they will not favor the concept at all. |
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He’s going to take money away from Joe the Plumber and give it to gays who are going to use it to come around and take away Joe the Plumbers guns. Or something like that. And then the revolution begins!
PALIN/HANNITY 2012! Are none of you patriots?!? |
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what do you think taxes do? |
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it was a collective "you," btw.
i think deep knows what taxes do. this is a pet peeve i have with Americans en masse. it's as if they think roads pave themselves. |
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Clinton wasn't running for office at the time, and had a record of service in the vault. |
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As it was Couric asked straightforward questions which exposed Palin as completely unsuitable for the task at hand. |
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Das Capital is more influential than the Communist Manifesto because Marx couldn't describe the state of communism in any concrete way. Now Sweden lowered their corporate taxes so that jobs would still exist there and not move to Britain like it used to but that just bolsters the argument against shifting the tax burden to corporations. Obama, in 2001 Interview, Lamented Failure of Civil Rights Movement to Redistribute Wealth - FOXNews.com Elections This article also looks at what Obama would like to do. Also when you add Barney Frank's comments you get the idea there will be more tax shifts in the future. There are already welfare programs in the U.S. how much more is needed? I don't believe that Obama and Biden could go to Sweden in 4 years but the ultimate goal is that over time. If I did the questions I would focus on corporate taxes more and less on Karl Marx, but talking about Sweden is definately appropriate. I don't think anyone should avoid media questions unless they start swearing at the guy or getting physically agressive. Palin did her (edited) interviews and it's time for others to take their lumps and that won't happen until more conservative questions are asked. I'm actually surprised that those questions were even asked. In my country hard questions are usually reserved for anyone who threatens the liberal party (Conservative, NDP). If you think the debates are messy in the U.S. try and find video of the Canadian debates with 4 left wing parties after the 1 conservative party in a roundtable style with people shouting over each other. We also have the CRTC which is like the fairness doctrine. Fox News was actually not available until recently because of it. Eventually people complained they could get CNN and why not Fox News? |
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Taxes go to the government. They are put into social programs, but much of that money goes to bureaucrats who get paid defined benefit pensions and good salaries to administer the money. After they get paid what is left goes to the program. People who rely on welfare programs usually don't like what they get and wish for more. The problem is that there have to be people that don't receive the benefit and pay the taxes for the programs to exist. This burden can make it harder for people to stand on their own 2 feet so many in the middle class start adopting the programs out of necessity. Companies that want to exist also pass the cost of increased fees and taxes onto the population because they can. This can lead to hiring freezes, more layoffs or just an increase prices. Who wants that? Now as I belabored before the role of saving money for your retirement also is affected by increased taxes. This slows down the accumulation of capital that is necessary for starting new companies or buying out crappy old ones. This is good finally some back and forth in this thread without snarky comments. I like this. |
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purpleoscar, are you for progressive taxation or for a flat tax?
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They are also used to bail out rich bankers when they screw up. |
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