2008 U.S. Presidential Campaign Discussion Thread-Part 11 - Page 15

**Diemen** · 10-25-2008, 10:58 PM

Well obviously it's not one-sided, but the nastiness is also quite obviously stronger from one campaign.

corianderstem · 10-25-2008, 11:01 PM

Although there's definitely bullshit and eye-rollingness (and some downright disappointing things) coming from supporters on both sides, so there's that.

But you know what? I just chalk it up to there being a lot of assholes out there on all sides, not "those democrats/republicans/nudists are horrible people who will do anything to make sure their side wins."

A_Wanderer · 10-25-2008, 11:04 PM

You are being very careful with your language, I agree that the McCain campaign is using dodgy tactics, but I would not say that the left is any better than the right in general.

**Diemen** · 10-25-2008, 11:06 PM

In general, I agree - and definitely when it comes to their supporters. But in specific areas I think there are paths the left would take that the right wouldn't and vice versa.

coolian2 · 10-25-2008, 11:06 PM

Hey, woah. Be careful. You're on the verge on intelligent discussion.

corianderstem · 10-25-2008, 11:07 PM

I'd love a political campaign someday where the candidates will just tell you why they are the best person for the job and tell people what they will do if elected, and leave all the negative ads and finger pointing out of it.

While I'm at it, I'd also like a pony. And some diamond shoes.

**Diemen** · 10-25-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by corianderstem

While I'm at it, I'd also like a pony.

I'd settle for a concert grand Steinway. Oh hell, even a 7 footer would do.

corianderstem · 10-25-2008, 11:09 PM

I don't have room for it in my apartment. Maybe I could park it in my parking spot out back.

JOFO · 10-25-2008, 11:14 PM

You know, there's a difference to me between Obama saying "Look, McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time" which is true, and McCain saying "Obama is not who you think he is; palling around with terrorists, Muslim, etc. blah blah blah...."
which is not true.
I mean, when your guy is down, do you really want him to punch his opponent in the nuts? I don't. I wanted a fair fight, but it hasn't been that for months.

toscano · 10-25-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by coolian2

~~Librarians?~~ ~~Lolbertarians?~~ Libertarians?

by the way when did they start playing the league game in scotland, jimmy ? Thought they were primarily union ?

coolian2 · 10-25-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by toscano

by the way when did they start playing the league game in scotland, jimmy ? Thought they were primarily union ?

There's a reason why I'm willing to openly support them over my native New Zealand...Scotland aren't going to threaten anyone. But dad's from Scotland and one of their players plays for the club I support. I don't think they're much good at either.

**Diemen** · 10-25-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by corianderstem

I don't have room for it in my apartment. Maybe I could park it in my parking spot out back.

I'd have room for one. I'd just have to kick a housemate out and take over that room.

A_Wanderer · 10-25-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JOFO

You know, there's a difference to me between Obama saying "Look, McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time" which is true, and McCain saying "Obama is not who you think he is; palling around with terrorists, Muslim, etc. blah blah blah...."
which is not true.
I mean, when your guy is down, do you really want him to punch his opponent in the nuts? I don't. I wanted a fair fight, but it hasn't been that for months.

Well, as far as I know Obama isn't a Muslim, but it was definitely Republicans who brought this sort of stuff up first.

anitram · 10-25-2008, 11:42 PM

Cute, except this was around on right wing radio way before the Senator from New York decided to roll around in some mud.

Dreadsox · 10-26-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by A_Wanderer

Libertinearians

That the bulk of conservatives on FYM support government intrusion into peoples social lives and discrimination doesn't help, it's as if by tarring all conservatives as Rush Limbaugh meets other stereotypical bigot it drove away thinking people.

Dreadsox · 10-26-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Diemen

I think the circumstances were a little different than just conservatives v. liberals.

I can think of at least three specific times it has been thrown at me in the midst of discussion since I brought it up. What ever circumstances there may have been in your mind, I do not think you are impartial enough to disucss it publicly with me. Fair enough?

**Diemen** · 10-26-2008, 12:33 AM

I don't believe I ever threw it back at you, but ok.

Dreadsox · 10-26-2008, 12:35 AM

I do not think I said you did.

Anyways, it certainly has been fun these few months, watching deep pretend to fill the missing void in this forum.

**Diemen** · 10-26-2008, 12:42 AM

Speaking of deep, I haven't seen him around in a few days.

Dreadsox · 10-26-2008, 12:44 AM

He is probably worried that McCain may pull an upset, and may have to actually keep pretending for the next four years.

10-25-2008, 10:58 PM	#281
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,663 Local Time: 07:39 AM	Well obviously it's not one-sided, but the nastiness is also quite obviously stronger from one campaign. __________________

10-25-2008, 11:01 PM	#282
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 05:39 AM	Although there's definitely bullshit and eye-rollingness (and some downright disappointing things) coming from supporters on both sides, so there's that. But you know what? I just chalk it up to there being a lot of assholes out there on all sides, not "those democrats/republicans/nudists are horrible people who will do anything to make sure their side wins." __________________

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Dreadsox ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,885 Local Time: 07:39 AM	He is probably worried that McCain may pull an upset, and may have to actually keep pretending for the next four years. __________________

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10-25-2008, 11:04 PM	#283
A_Wanderer ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Wild West Posts: 12,518 Local Time: 10:39 PM	You are being very careful with your language, I agree that the McCain campaign is using dodgy tactics, but I would not say that the left is any better than the right in general.

10-25-2008, 11:06 PM	#284
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,663 Local Time: 07:39 AM	In general, I agree - and definitely when it comes to their supporters. But in specific areas I think there are paths the left would take that the right wouldn't and vice versa.

10-25-2008, 11:06 PM	#285
coolian2 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hamilton (No longer STD capital of NZ) Posts: 42,934 Local Time: 01:39 AM	Hey, woah. Be careful. You're on the verge on intelligent discussion.

10-25-2008, 11:07 PM	#286
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 05:39 AM	I'd love a political campaign someday where the candidates will just tell you why they are the best person for the job and tell people what they will do if elected, and leave all the negative ads and finger pointing out of it. While I'm at it, I'd also like a pony. And some diamond shoes.

10-25-2008, 11:09 PM	#288
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 05:39 AM	I don't have room for it in my apartment. Maybe I could park it in my parking spot out back.

10-25-2008, 11:14 PM	#289
JOFO Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,422 Local Time: 12:39 PM	You know, there's a difference to me between Obama saying "Look, McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time" which is true, and McCain saying "Obama is not who you think he is; palling around with terrorists, Muslim, etc. blah blah blah...." which is not true. I mean, when your guy is down, do you really want him to punch his opponent in the nuts? I don't. I wanted a fair fight, but it hasn't been that for months.

10-25-2008, 11:42 PM	#294
anitram Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NY Posts: 18,918 Local Time: 08:39 AM	Cute, except this was around on right wing radio way before the Senator from New York decided to roll around in some mud.

10-26-2008, 12:33 AM	#297
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,663 Local Time: 07:39 AM	I don't believe I ever threw it back at you, but ok.

10-26-2008, 12:35 AM	#298
Dreadsox ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,885 Local Time: 07:39 AM	I do not think I said you did. Anyways, it certainly has been fun these few months, watching deep pretend to fill the missing void in this forum.

10-26-2008, 12:42 AM	#299
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,663 Local Time: 07:39 AM	Speaking of deep, I haven't seen him around in a few days.