2008 U.S. Presidential Campaign Discussion Thread-Part 11

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by diamond

c'mon diemen, im happy for laura, but you can watch a drive in movie off of senator biden's forehead.

you do admit joe has botox and hair plugs correct?

and we hope that you're not opposed to palin's wardrobe expenses or people who have seem to have became petty there.



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Whether he has had botox or not is besides the point. No one else is constantly making snide comments on his appearance other than you.

Spending $150,000 of money donated to the campaign, simply for clothes, and especially when you are running on the anti-elite average joe-six-pack mantra, is quite a bit different than someone spending their own personal money for cosmetic surgery.

Which is still beside the point that no one consistently brings ups comments on peoples' physical appearance besides you. And it still makes you look immature and petty.

[VintagePunk]

Originally Posted by toscano

He can't even answer how Obama was able to get a passport if his birth certificate wasn't valid............

Yup. His citizenship has been confirmed by eleventy-billion political people by now, I was just trying to think of a very obvious example for diamond.

I think the only reason I'm even trying to discuss it this evening is because I'm not feeling well, and probably delusional enough to think I might get through to him.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by diamond

I was doing it as a kind gesture realizing the majority of posters would be glad to hear this.

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Yolland asked you not to post in enlarged sizes. I believe that covers any reason or intention you might have for posting, good or bad.

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by Diemen

Which is still beside the point that no one consistently brings ups comments on peoples' physical appearance besides you. And it still makes you look immature and petty.

That is simply incorrect.

A lot of Obama supporters here have made personal remarks regarding McCain's age, saying nasty things such as speculating on his state of senility, whether he wears diapers, etc, etc.

But, you're on a learning curve, I guess.

[diamond]

He can't even answer how Obama was able to get a passport if his birth certificate wasn't valid............

That's a good question, I'm sure Berg has an answer for that otherwise he wouldn't be appealing.

Time will tell.

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[anitram]

I'm still waiting for you to tell me whether your "sources" have definitively concluded that this "suspect" visit to "grandma" was a fabrication by Obama.

[toscano]

Originally Posted by diamond

That's a good question, I'm sure Berg has an answer for that otherwise he wouldn't be appealing.

Time will tell.

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Yes, I'm "sure" he does.......

Or, he just doesn't have an iota of common sense.

[toscano]

Originally Posted by anitram

I'm still waiting for you to tell me whether your "sources" have definitively concluded that this "suspect" visit to "grandma" was a fabrication by Obama.

Are his "sources" the same as "his people in DC" ???

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by financeguy

That is simply incorrect.

A lot of Obama supporters here have made personal remarks regarding McCain's age, saying nasty things such as speculating on his state of senility, whether he wears diapers, etc, etc.

I think you should read what I wrote again.

no one consistently brings ups comments on peoples' physical appearance besides you.

Note the bold parts. Though I don't recall anyone using the diapers line, I'm willing to bet those comments were isolated events (unless you can find me instances of someone using that line several times). And regardless, the comments of senility and diapers, immature though they may be, are more to do with his actions and behavior, not his appearance. Diamond has commented several times on Botox Joe, and I think you can agree that he was none too kind to Hillary when it came to appearances.

But, you're on a learning curve, I guess.

[diamond]

Hey, I'm still learning.

[martha]

Originally Posted by diamond

That's a good question, I'm sure Berg has an answer for that otherwise he wouldn't be appealing.

Or he just may be a garden variety nutcase with a conspiracy theory to explain it.

[diamond]

Originally Posted by Diemen

I think you should read what I wrote again.

and I think you can agree that he was none too kind to Hillary when it came to appearances.

In all fairness Diemen I usually commented on Hillary's temprament, (angry etc) not on her physical appearence -if I remember correctly.

And then I would get called a sexist yada yada and it would be claimed that I was picking on her cuz she was a woman etc.

That's usually how it went.



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[Diemen]

So those pictures that showed her in unfortunate poses reflected absolutely nothing on her appearance, right?

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by Diemen

So those pictures that showed her in unfortunate poses reflected absolutely nothing on her appearance, right?

Would it be easier for you to ban all right wing posters?

Maybe you should do that.

[U2Fanatic4ever]

Originally Posted by Diemen

Whether he has had botox or not is besides the point. No one else is constantly making snide comments on his appearance other than you.

Spending $150,000 of money donated to the campaign, simply for clothes, and especially when you are running on the anti-elite average joe-six-pack mantra, is quite a bit different than someone spending their own personal money for cosmetic surgery.

Which is still beside the point that no one consistently brings ups comments on peoples' physical appearance besides you. And it still makes you look immature and petty.

thank you.. and well said..

[financeguy]

This forum is becoming really, incredibly, tiresome.

[U2isthebest]

Originally Posted by financeguy

This forum is becoming really, incredibly, tiresome.

Then why are you still here? I mean, if it bothers you so much, why don't you take a break? Other posters have done so in the past including myself.

[diamond]

Originally Posted by Diemen

So those pictures that showed her in unfortunate poses reflected absolutely nothing on her appearance, right?

Diemen,

I'm not claiming to be the perfect poster.
I did post pictures illustrating her demeanor and temprament.
I even said I would vote for Obama over her, and you questioned me on it and found my original post.

I've also refrained from posting pictures since I've been back.

I also said many unflattering things about McCain in the Republican primaries, and still it turns my stomach that I'm to voting for him.

I would gladly vote for Obama if:

a) he were pro life
b) he were more pro business (less taxes for everyone no matter how much one makes)
c) renounced William Ayers unequiocably
d) put this birth certificate thing to bed*

*I really hope he whips it out in the 11th hour-I'm afraid of a potentail constitutional crisis ala 2000.

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[Diemen]

Originally Posted by financeguy

Would it be easier for you to ban all right wing posters?

Maybe you should do that.

Check your PMs.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by diamond

I did post pictures illustrating her demeanor and temprament.

Those pics did nothing to illustrate her demeanor and temperament, and only served to make her look bad. One frozen moment in time does not illustrate one's demeanor or temperament, especially when it's obvious she was in between expressions.

I don't want to drag this on any further though. Suffice it to say, we disagree on the matter.