2008 U.S. Presidential Campaign Discussion Thread-Part 10. - Page 4

Earnie Shavers · 10-08-2008, 11:45 PM

The guy with the camera should have pulled out a world map and asked each of them to point to Iraq or Afghanistan. It’s been a guaranteed laugh for 7 years now when interviewing these types of people. “God Bless George Bush! Saddam Hussein deserved to die for 9/11!” (can you please point to Iraq on this map?) “Here?” (points to Brazil).

BVS · 10-09-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by diamond

c mon now.

i do think john eschews angry women tho.

and by any stretch nancy p is a no rocket scientist, ok?

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Obama didn't choose Nancy for his wife or running mate... Sorry, like he says, McCain's record speaks for itself.

Harry Vest · 10-09-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by anitram

NBC is also reporting that at today's McCain/Palin rally, there were screams of "Off with [Obama's] head!"

I am embarrassed on behalf of your entire country to be honest.

YouTube - The McCain-Palin Mob

These people are just plain dumb!!!
I was a little disppointed in the the guy doing the "interviewing" - please ask better questions than "when was the first time you heard of..." - that got slightly redundant. Anyways, just shows you how uninformed many people in smalltown America really are. It's hard to believe that not one of those people compared OBAMA to OSAMA???? That's kinda the mentality isn't it???

I feel for your country - no matter who wins (and all signs are pointing to Obama) there's gonna be trouble.

diamond · 10-09-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BonoVoxSupastar

Obama didn't choose Nancy for his wife or running mate... Sorry, like he says, McCain's record speaks for itself.

Your direct quote is here:

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Originally Posted by BonoVoxSupastar
I think McCain may be scared of smart women...

Obama didn't pick Hillary, and most agree right or left that Hillary has twice the IQ as "God Love Ya Joe Biden".

Perhaps O is really the one that was afraid of a strong, smart woman-in not picking Hillary.

By the looks of it strong smart women tend to gravitate to Johnny Mac.

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Earnie Shavers · 10-09-2008, 01:03 AM

Riiiiiiight...

diamond · 10-09-2008, 01:11 AM

Vincent Vega · 10-09-2008, 01:22 AM

Why then do you post evidence to the contrary of your point?

diamond · 10-09-2008, 01:23 AM

those women aren't strong or smart to you?

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Vincent Vega · 10-09-2008, 01:30 AM

As strong and smart as anyone else that is currently up for debate. Though both of them have made some really dumb statements just recently.
The one can hold her head, the other one can raise her arm. Well, a little strong at least.

But I think when it comes to intellectual capability and really strong-mindedness Michelle Obama is proof enough that Obama is not afraid of strong and smart women.
I also find the argument regarding Hilary Clinton quite pointless as there were obviously good reasons why he didn't pick her.

diamond · 10-09-2008, 01:33 AM

ok.

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maycocksean · 10-09-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by anitram

NBC is also reporting that at today's McCain/Palin rally, there were screams of "Off with [Obama's] head!"

I am embarrassed on behalf of your entire country to be honest.

YouTube - The McCain-Palin Mob

I'm not sure what to make of that. . .

It's sad, I guess. I see a lot of fear in the folks on that video. (and one person who--like many of us Americans likes being on camera!)

Vincent Vega · 10-09-2008, 01:58 AM

His question wasn't thought through that well.
"How long do you know Obama?"
"A year"
"How long do you know Palin?"
"A year"
"And you don't support Obama?"
Well, obviously not. Apparently, these people agreed with Palin's political views more. Or are at least firm conservatives
Alternatively, they knew Obama longer than Palin. But that doesn't mean that they now have to support Obama simply because they knew him well before Palin. However, the person didn't know what to make of it.

maycocksean · 10-09-2008, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Vega

His question wasn't thought through that well.
"How long do you know Obama?"
"A year"
"How long do you know Palin?"
"A year"
"And you don't support Obama?"
Well, obviously not. Apparently, these people agreed with Palin's political views more. Or are at least firm conservatives
Alternatively, they knew Obama longer than Palin. But that doesn't mean that they now have to support Obama simply because they knew him well before Palin. However, the person didn't know what to make of it.

True. I thought that was a pretty lame question too. And you could tell these people knew they were being baited.

maycocksean · 10-09-2008, 02:08 AM

The one lady though, who said that Obama might be a terrorist "because he has the lineage." . . . wtf?

What about Timothy McVeigh? Did he also "have the lineage?"

Why does no one ever talk about the worst act of terrorism on U.S. soil pre-9/11? How does Okalahoma City fit into all this?

If the guy with the camera were smarter he would have followed up with that!

Vincent Vega · 10-09-2008, 02:17 AM

I sometimes have the feeling the Oklahoma bombing has left many people's mind.

And you find the usual suspects in the video: The one who says Obama was a Muslim the first four years of his life (and, what's the problem with that? I was a Lutheran Protestant the first 18 years of my life), the other one who says his name makes him suspicious etc.
Barack Hussein Obama, well, I didn't know being a terrorist comes with your name.
Poor guys that were named Adolf in the 1920s.

I didn't get what the blonde woman was referring to.

indra · 10-09-2008, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by maycocksean

The one lady though, who said that Obama might be a terrorist "because he has the lineage." . . . wtf?

What about Timothy McVeigh? Did he also "have the lineage?"

Why does no one ever talk about the worst act of terrorism on U.S. soil pre-9/11? How does Okalahoma City fit into all this?

If the guy with the camera were smarter he would have followed up with that!

I was at work when the Oklahoma City bombing happened, so it was pretty much all anyone talked about that day. One thing that I've remembered very clearly was that several people I talked to said it had to be Arab terrorists. That didn't make sense to me (I figured someone from another country who wanted to bomb a location in the US probably wouldn't think "Oklahoma City, yeah, that's the place!") so I asked why they thought that. The answer was "because they used a truck bomb -- only Arab terrorists use those."

Yep. People are stupid.

BVS · 10-09-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by diamond

Obama didn't pick Hillary, and most agree right or left that Hillary has twice the IQ as "God Love Ya Joe Biden".

Perhaps O is really the one that was afraid of a strong, smart woman-in not picking Hillary.

By the looks of it strong smart women tend to gravitate to Johnny Mac.

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I think sometimes you purposely miss the point. Obama didn't choose Hillary for many reasons, none of which was because she's a smart woman, just look at his wife. McCain on the other hand, and I'm being completely honest non-partisan, I don't think he really gets women. I really don't.

U2democrat · 10-09-2008, 09:55 AM

McCain made a short sighted decision with Palin, he picked someone that would help him get to Nov 4.

Obama made a long term decision with Biden, he picked someone that he could govern with, that he knew would be good to have at his side when things get tough. If Obama wanted to be short sighted like McCain, he could have gone with Hillary. But he's smarter than that.

diamond · 10-09-2008, 10:06 AM

Yes, but the world knows that Joe is only half the man Hillary is.

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U2democrat · 10-09-2008, 10:09 AM

Oh diamond, why do we even spend time on you?

When it comes to governing, it is not Hillary, it is Bill that would make things difficult.

Joe Biden was a wise, forward thinking choice by Obama. There. I've said my piece, back to work. There's an election to be won.

10-08-2008, 11:45 PM	#61
Earnie Shavers Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London/Sydney Posts: 6,609 Local Time: 12:57 PM	The guy with the camera should have pulled out a world map and asked each of them to point to Iraq or Afghanistan. It’s been a guaranteed laugh for 7 years now when interviewing these types of people. “God Bless George Bush! Saddam Hussein deserved to die for 9/11!” (can you please point to Iraq on this map?) “Here?” (points to Brazil). __________________

10-09-2008, 10:09 AM	#80
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 12:57 PM	Oh diamond, why do we even spend time on you? When it comes to governing, it is not Hillary, it is Bill that would make things difficult. Joe Biden was a wise, forward thinking choice by Obama. There. I've said my piece, back to work. There's an election to be won. __________________

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10-09-2008, 01:03 AM	#65
Earnie Shavers Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London/Sydney Posts: 6,609 Local Time: 12:57 PM	Riiiiiiight...

10-09-2008, 01:11 AM	#66
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10-09-2008, 01:22 AM	#67
Vincent Vega Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 6,745 Local Time: 01:57 PM	Why then do you post evidence to the contrary of your point?

10-09-2008, 01:23 AM	#68
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 05:57 AM	those women aren't strong or smart to you? <>

10-09-2008, 01:30 AM	#69
Vincent Vega Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 6,745 Local Time: 01:57 PM	As strong and smart as anyone else that is currently up for debate. Though both of them have made some really dumb statements just recently. The one can hold her head, the other one can raise her arm. Well, a little strong at least. But I think when it comes to intellectual capability and really strong-mindedness Michelle Obama is proof enough that Obama is not afraid of strong and smart women. I also find the argument regarding Hilary Clinton quite pointless as there were obviously good reasons why he didn't pick her.

10-09-2008, 01:33 AM	#70
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 05:57 AM	ok. <>

10-09-2008, 01:58 AM	#72
Vincent Vega Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 6,745 Local Time: 01:57 PM	His question wasn't thought through that well. "How long do you know Obama?" "A year" "How long do you know Palin?" "A year" "And you don't support Obama?" Well, obviously not. Apparently, these people agreed with Palin's political views more. Or are at least firm conservatives Alternatively, they knew Obama longer than Palin. But that doesn't mean that they now have to support Obama simply because they knew him well before Palin. However, the person didn't know what to make of it.

10-09-2008, 02:08 AM	#74
maycocksean Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,905 Local Time: 07:57 AM	The one lady though, who said that Obama might be a terrorist "because he has the lineage." . . . wtf? What about Timothy McVeigh? Did he also "have the lineage?" Why does no one ever talk about the worst act of terrorism on U.S. soil pre-9/11? How does Okalahoma City fit into all this? If the guy with the camera were smarter he would have followed up with that!

10-09-2008, 02:17 AM	#75
Vincent Vega Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 6,745 Local Time: 01:57 PM	I sometimes have the feeling the Oklahoma bombing has left many people's mind. And you find the usual suspects in the video: The one who says Obama was a Muslim the first four years of his life (and, what's the problem with that? I was a Lutheran Protestant the first 18 years of my life), the other one who says his name makes him suspicious etc. Barack Hussein Obama, well, I didn't know being a terrorist comes with your name. Poor guys that were named Adolf in the 1920s. I didn't get what the blonde woman was referring to.

10-09-2008, 09:55 AM	#78
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 12:57 PM	McCain made a short sighted decision with Palin, he picked someone that would help him get to Nov 4. Obama made a long term decision with Biden, he picked someone that he could govern with, that he knew would be good to have at his side when things get tough. If Obama wanted to be short sighted like McCain, he could have gone with Hillary. But he's smarter than that.

10-09-2008, 10:06 AM	#79
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 05:57 AM	Yes, but the world knows that Joe is only half the man Hillary is. <>