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i don't see Obama using a campaign filled with code words about John McCain being a secret white supremacist in order to drive up the african-american vote. i just think it's mindless to equate what the GOP has done on a national level, and what they will continue to do over these next two weeks -- really, the only reason they're sticking with Ayers is so they can use the words "terrorist" and "Obama" in the same sentence -- with the fact that Obama was a member of a massive church and had a close personal relationship (that he has now denounced) with a man who said incendiary things and gives sermons that i do think are understood differently by white people than by black people. and as has been said, what Rev. Wright has said about America in the infamous "chickens come home to roost" sermon is far less offensive to me than what The Pope says about homosexuality. how else am i to understand being called "objectively disordered"? i view Rev. Wright as a showman, probably a bit of a racist, but really not all that problematic in my overall view of Obama. the Ayers thing is nonsense. but the whole point of this is to continue to paint a black man named Barack Hussein Obama as a foreigner, as too "Other" to vote for, and this is reflected in many of Palin's comments -- not from real america, sees the world differently from you and i -- and these comments are effectively whipping up the racist, xenophobic Republican base. McCain is complicit, and Powell knows it. and the GOP is complicit, and Powell knows it. randomly, where was Wright's anti-semetic comments? i don't think that criticizing Israel's actions should engender instant labeling of being anti-semetic. was there something else? an equivalent of Rev. Jackson's "hymietown"? i might have missed that. |
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Wow. I'm behind in the thread, but I just finished watching Powell's endorsement. Now that is an endorsement. A few of my favorite parts.
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#724 | |
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Where was Colin in 2004 ?
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Or do they have money now? These robo calls I don't get. What they try to imply is shameful and disgusting, but the fact that it is robotic calls alone is weird enough. Don't they have volunteers to do these calls? Are not enough volunteers willing to spout this appalling crap themselves? Is it just too expensive? Or do they just fear some of those being called could start counter-arguing? Seriously, I cannot believe how they think being called by a pre-recorded message can be nearly as effective as being called by a real person. |
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^ That's a pretty standard tactic in American campaign politics; lots of Congressmen and state-level politicians of both parties do it too. They're not always scurrilous calls by any means, but the tactic itself is common.
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Are these people getting these calls on the do not call list? Or are politicians exempt from consulting that list?
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They're exempt from no-call lists, though they're supposed to always provide a callback number which you can then use to request removal from that particular campaign's list.
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Ok, seems it's cultural differences. I would hang up immediately if any party called me with a pre-recorded message. Even more, in Germany it's totally unheard of to receive calls from political parties trying to get you to vote for them. We don't have door knockers as well, nobody would take up a sign and stand at the road and no one has yard signs.
On the other hand, we don't have any party, or single politician for that matter, people would get so passionate about. |
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i came across a blurp today that said that Powell's endorsement was the most profound 7-8 minutes of the 2008 campaign, so i went back and read the transcript, and i think i agree.
here it is. my personal favorite parts highlighted: Quote:
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As a campaign intern who spent all summer calling people on the phone, it's frustrating to have to explain to people who yell in my ear "I'M ON THE DO NOT CALL LIST!" and say, in a non-condescending way, that politicians are exempt, and really, would congress pass legislature that would hinder their campaigning in that way? Heck no. Robo-calls do get annoying though, people tend to just hang up, whether the message is positive or negative. |
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I just don't pick up my landline unless it's very late at night because then it's almost always one of two people I've told to call me then -- everything else goes to the answering machine. If it's someone I know and want to talk to I pick up if I'm here, or I call back. Does wonders for my irritation level during political campaigns.
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Wow. That was a pretty thorough blasting of McCain/Palin. T he true beauty is that he wasn't snarky about either of them, which actually made it more of a smackdown.
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I don't have a land line and haven't had a land line in many years so I never get unwanted calls except a genuine wrong number. It's fabulous.
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![]() Also, if you (the general you) could be as polite as possible when on the phone, because it's probably just someone like me just doing their job or volunteering on the other side, and it's never fun to get rude people when all I've said is "Hello" ![]() |
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I did some calling once, way before the do not call list. It takes a special kind of nerve to do that (I mean that in a good way). I mustered up the nerve one election cycle, working for a Republican, of all people. She was a pro-choice Republican trying to beat that asshole Bob Dornan in the primary. She actually took 40% of the vote! I spoke to at least two women on the phone who were registered voters who told me that their husbands told them how to vote. I do not lie. That was the election that generated the legendary soundbite about "lesbian spearchuckers." I've always been proud to be a "lesbian spearchucker." That's what B-1 Bob called the supporters of his pro-choice opponent, and I still wear that badge with pride. |
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I thought it was interesting, the Powell endorsement happened overnight our time here, so I switched on the TV this morning when I was getting ready to see if he actually did it (I was half expecting a diplomatic, non-specific, tip of the hat type endorsement or none at all). CNN were showing some of their international business programming, so over to Fox I went. For half an hour they were talking about it, showing clips of responses to it, but did not once actually quote Powell, let alone show a clip of him actually on Meet the Press. That might have just been the half hour or so that I caught, but I thought it was maybe a funny ‘typical Fox’ moment. They get a good Republican/far right soundbite and they’ll play it every 5 minutes so it is absolutely drilled in, anyone watching will know it off by heart pretty quickly, but probably the most eloquent soundbite loaded pro-Obama message yet? Haha, no way. Especially considering what Powell is really skewering is essentially the Fox Message of the Week as well.
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