2008 U.S. Presidential Campaign Discussion Thread-Part 10. - Page 25

**Diemen** · 10-14-2008, 08:07 PM

And we're just supposed to take a random youtube video as the cold hard truth on the matter, are we?

VintagePunk · 10-14-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Diemen

And we're just supposed to take a random youtube video as the cold hard truth on the matter, are we?

It's what conspiracy theorists do best.

diamond · 10-14-2008, 08:16 PM

if this thing gets legs and is proved to be true, i won't gloat, because it would be a fraud upon millions and millons of democrats and a very sad day for our country.

i personally hope it's not true.

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Harry Vest · 10-14-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by U2Fanatic4ever

because it's extremist BS thats why...

Ya, and McCain/Palin are extremeists...right!!!
So why are they not bringing this up???????

And like Diamond said - why doesn't he just show his birth certificate????
Or has he and this is just yet another distraction by the right?????

It's either one or the other and at least I WANT TO KNOW WHICH IT IS instead of just writing it off as either an extremist bullshit conspiracy theory or something akin to the truth. There is a middle ground between both factions don't you think? I'd just like a better explanation that's all.

VintagePunk · 10-14-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Vest

Ya, and McCain/Palin are extremeists...right!!!
So why are they not bringing this up???????

And like Diamond said - why doesn't he just show his birth certificate????
Or has he and this is just yet another distraction by the right?????

It's either one or the other and at least I WANT TO KNOW WHICH IT IS instead of just writing it off as either an extremist bullshit conspiracy theory or something akin to the truth. There is a middle ground between both factions don't you think? I'd just like a better explanation that's all.

Stop and take a deep breath, and use your critical thinking skills for a sec.

Okay. Do you honestly think that whatever body is in charge of US elections would allow a candidate to get this far into the process without official confirmation as to their birth/US citizenship? Think about it really hard.

In light of that, the reason that McCain/Palin are not bringing it up is because there is nothing there, and even a campaign as inept as McCain's has been KNOWS there is nothing there.

U2Fanatic4ever · 10-14-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by VintagePunk

Stop and take a deep breath, and use your critical thinking skills for a sec.

Okay. Do you honestly think that whatever body is in charge of US elections would allow a candidate to get this far into the process without official confirmation as to their birth/US citizenship? Think about it really hard.

In light of that, the reason that McCain/Palin are not bringing it up is because there is nothing there, and even a campaign as inept as McCain's has been KNOWS there is nothing there.

thanks VP. Couldn't of said it better myself.

**Diemen** · 10-14-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Vest

Ya, and McCain/Palin are extremeists...right!!!
So why are they not bringing this up???????

Wow did you miss that point entirely. It's extremist BS, and McCain/Palin aren't bringing it up because they're not extremists.

U2Fanatic4ever · 10-14-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Vest

Ya, and McCain/Palin are extremeists...right!!!
So why are they not bringing this up???????

And like Diamond said - why doesn't he just show his birth certificate????
Or has he and this is just yet another distraction by the right?????

It's either one or the other and at least I WANT TO KNOW WHICH IT IS instead of just writing it off as either an extremist bullshit conspiracy theory or something akin to the truth. There is a middle ground between both factions don't you think? I'd just like a better explanation that's all.

chill out dude.. Why aren't the republicans picking this up? I mean Drudge didn't even pick this up and they post pretty extreme things on that site. A youtube vid is certainly not a basis for truth either. And as VP said the gov't body that evaluates potential candidates wouldn't of let this go this far if it were true.

Earnie Shavers · 10-14-2008, 08:33 PM

And if the McCain campaign thought they had an Automatic Disqualification card in their back pocket ready to be pulled out at any time, you think they’d be running such a chaotic and clearly defensive campaign? It would be reversed – the McCain camp, despite the polls, would be calm and on message knowing they would be ahead at the end, and the Obama camp, likely aware, would be in total panic mode. It’s currently the reverse.

diamond · 10-14-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VintagePunk

Stop and take a deep breath, and use your and even a campaign as inept as McCain's has been KNOWS there is nothing there.

you give the opposition credit only when it benefits your position.

they're inept in everything else but this- picking sarah p yada yada-etc.

maybe they couldn't fathom that Barry would even try this.

suspect reasoning on your part VP.

also the CHIEF accuser is A DEMOCRAT.

what up?

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martha · 10-14-2008, 08:37 PM

If it's on you tube it must be true!!11!!!!

VintagePunk · 10-14-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by diamond

you give the opposition credit only when it benefits your position.

they're inept in everything else but this- picking sarah p yada yada-etc.

maybe they couldn't fathom that Barry would even try this.

suspect reasoning on your part VP.

also the CHIEF accuser is A DEMOCRAT.

what up?

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Originally Posted by VintagePunk

Stop and take a deep breath, and use your critical thinking skills for a sec.

Okay. Do you honestly think that whatever body is in charge of US elections would allow a candidate to get this far into the process without official confirmation as to their birth/US citizenship? Think about it really hard.

Desperation.

diamond · 10-14-2008, 08:39 PM

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If it's on you tube it must be true!!11!!!!

no it's been proven here that the daily kos is far more reputable..

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**Diemen** · 10-14-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by diamond

no the daily kos is far more reputable.

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Than youtube? You bet it is.

kellyahern · 10-14-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by martha

If it's on you tube it must be true!!11!!!!

So McCain isn't a zombie then? Darn

YouTube - Zombie McCain Wants Honesty

Utoo · 10-14-2008, 08:42 PM

Diamond, where the fuck is John McCain's birth certificate? I haven't seen it! I bet the geezer was born outside of the US! Oh, wait....he's white, and his parents are American, so he must've been born in the US.

Obama, on the other hand, he's black, his dad's Kenyan....shit! He couldn't have been born in the U.S.! Or, at least Obama has to prove to me that he was born here; McCain, shit, I can just assume he was born here!

First off, Obama's mom never went to Kenya. His dad came from Kenya to Hawaii; his mom never went to Africa.

Second, even if Obama's mom changed her citizenship when she moved to Indonesia---which she didn't do---it wouldn't affect Obama's citizenship at all.

Here is one of many websites that debunk this crackpot "lawyer"'s fantasy: http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to...uts-away-.html

Dude, the way you putz around and play games on this forum is exactly the same as the way nutjobs like Karl Rove, Tucker Bounds, and other slimy Republicans spin their bullshit as if politics were simply a game for their enjoyment.

I await the scan of your birth certificate.

diamond · 10-14-2008, 08:42 PM

yes that's the official story, but he has never delivered his birth certificate, only a photo shopped one on his website.

why?

john mccain has cooperated early on.

well, we'll see how this plays out.

you think it will come out in tomorrow nights' debate so barry can clear his good name?

do you?

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JOFO · 10-14-2008, 08:45 PM

I'd rather have had any non American with half a brain have run this country than the idiot in charge for the last 8.

Dispute that.

martha · 10-14-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by diamond

yes that's the official story, but he has never delivered his birth certificate, only a photo shopped one on his website.

why?

Are you fucking serious?

toscano · 10-14-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by diamond

yes that's the official story, but he has never delivered his birth certificate, only a photo shopped one on his website.

why?

john mccain has cooperated early on.

well, we'll see how this plays out.

you think it will come out in tomorrow nights' debate so barry can clear his good name?

do you?

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You ARE aware that a birth certificate would have been required to get a passport, right ? Is the right THIS desperate ? Really ?

10-14-2008, 08:07 PM	#481
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,663 Local Time: 06:11 AM	And we're just supposed to take a random youtube video as the cold hard truth on the matter, are we? __________________

10-14-2008, 08:42 PM	#496
Utoo Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lovetown Posts: 8,343 Local Time: 07:11 AM	Diamond, where the fuck is John McCain's birth certificate? I haven't seen it! I bet the geezer was born outside of the US! Oh, wait....he's white, and his parents are American, so he must've been born in the US. Obama, on the other hand, he's black, his dad's Kenyan....shit! He couldn't have been born in the U.S.! *Or, at least Obama has to prove* to me that he was born here; McCain, shit, I can just assume he was born here!** First off, Obama's mom never went to Kenya. His dad came from Kenya to Hawaii; his mom never went to Africa. Second, even if Obama's mom changed her citizenship when she moved to Indonesia---which she didn't do---it wouldn't affect Obama's citizenship at all. Here is one of many websites that debunk this crackpot "lawyer"'s fantasy: http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to...uts-away-.html Dude, the way you putz around and play games on this forum is exactly the same as the way nutjobs like Karl Rove, Tucker Bounds, and other slimy Republicans spin their bullshit as if politics were simply a game for their enjoyment. I await the scan of your birth certificate. __________________

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10-14-2008, 08:16 PM	#483
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 04:11 AM	if this thing gets legs and is proved to be true, i won't gloat, because it would be a fraud upon millions and millons of democrats and a very sad day for our country. i personally hope it's not true. <>

10-14-2008, 08:33 PM	#489
Earnie Shavers Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London/Sydney Posts: 6,609 Local Time: 12:11 PM	And if the McCain campaign thought they had an Automatic Disqualification card in their back pocket ready to be pulled out at any time, you think they’d be running such a chaotic and clearly defensive campaign? It would be reversed – the McCain camp, despite the polls, would be calm and on message knowing they would be ahead at the end, and the Obama camp, likely aware, would be in total panic mode. It’s currently the reverse.

10-14-2008, 08:37 PM	#491
martha Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place Posts: 42,555 Local Time: 04:11 AM	If it's on you tube it must be true!!11!!!!

10-14-2008, 08:42 PM	#497
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 04:11 AM	yes that's the official story, but he has never delivered his birth certificate, only a photo shopped one on his website. why? john mccain has cooperated early on. well, we'll see how this plays out. you think it will come out in tomorrow nights' debate so barry can clear his good name? do you? <>

10-14-2008, 08:45 PM	#498
JOFO Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,422 Local Time: 11:11 AM	I'd rather have had any non American with half a brain have run this country than the idiot in charge for the last 8. Dispute that.