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Why is it that scorning intellectuals in their speeches is not equivalent to not welcoming them, STING?
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1. Have you ever tried to get accepted to one of the 4 military academies? 2. Look at what John McCain did for 23 years as a Naval Officer. Its difficult if not impossible to reach the top ranks of the military without being smart and intellectual. 3. Look at the decisions he has made has a congressman and Senator over the past 27 years! He understood why it was vital to this nation's security to push Saddam's military out of Kuwait in 1991 unlike Joe Biden and probably Barack Obama. He has actually opposed his own party on a variety of issues. When has Barack Obama EVER taken on his own party? |
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1. No.
2. Or have ancestry in the military to help you make your way up. 3. Opinion. |
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Because its about certain intellectuals who support policies that are wrong for this country, not intellectuals as a whole, or McCain would be implicating himself.
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Successful policies and the ability to step away from ones own party and oppose it when you feel it is wrong are excellent examples that are often found in intellectual individuals. |
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Your fetishisation of the military grows tiresome.
Ultimately, who pays for your precious military? It's us in the civilian world, with our taxes. |
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If I recall correctly, the main line against Obama for a while was that he was an elitist, not that he was a liberal elitist. To try and deny that the Republicans have been trying to bring scorn upon unapologetic intellectualism is ignoring reality.
If you take a good look at McCain's military record you would realize that had he not had the McCain lineage before him, he would most likely have not made it past the military academy. And definitely would not have still had his wings after crashing two planes (prior to his crash in Vietnam). |
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Your attempts to characterize members of the forum grows tiresome. Its certainly not in keeping with the rules of the forum. It is ultimately a waste of time for those reading this thread, especially your own. |
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Accidents don't in of themselves cause you to lose your wings, poor decisions and judgements do. Unknown to many civilians, accidents, some of them fatal, happen every year in the military. |
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McCain calls comments by Georgia Democrat 'shocking' - CNN.com
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I hope Obama has the guts to stand up to this and call it for what it is. |
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Lewis could not have hit the nail on the head more. McCain and Palin are allowing hate to spread just to not alienate that relatively large, ignorant portion of the Republican base.
That part of the base has no equal in the Democratic Party. And that's the point. There's a sector of Republicans that pride themselves on not being "elitist" (a buzz word for well spoken and intellectual), and to deny that is to ignore a large part of modern American politics. |
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Bleh.
I KNEW it was going to get ugly and come down to race.....I'm surprised it took so long. Fucking racists. ![]() |
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No, to be fair, McCain condemned it. Soundings are coming from his camp that he is against this type of behaviour. Of course, it could be just a tactic but I don't believe that it is just that, myself. There is, believe it or not, a middle ground between the Strongbow point of view that McCain is perfect in every way, and the alternative point of view, sometimes vented on FYM, that McCain is a conniving bollix that will do anything to get elected. |
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I can't believe you are standing there with a straight face and telling us that intellectuals and "elites" have not been scorned by the Republicans. Did you watch the GOP convention this year? Did you not hear Romney's speech? Giuliani's speech? Please. Get a dose of reality check. |
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Yes, there are racists of every political persuasion, including among independents. And they aren't the majority in either major party.
I don't, however, recall reading about shouts of "Kill him!" "Off with his head!" "Traitor!" and "Terrorist!" at Hillary Clinton rallies, and I doubt that's mere coincidence. |
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To me that's troubling. Especially with the delay between those kinds of remarks and finally a plea for a respectful campaign. It's the kind of delay that says (to me) "ok, we're getting pummelled in the press and the polls over this, let's not continue down this path" rather than "this is obviously wrong and I need to speak up." |
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