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I fixed it for you, Irvine. At least I hope that's how you wanted it.
Macfistowannabe said:Why is it that people always defend gay marriage with all this talk about if two individuals love each other, they should be allowed to marry?
What if a man loves a pig, or what if a man loves a five year old boy? I just don't see it going in the right direction.
Macfistowannabe said:Why is it that people always defend gay marriage with all this talk about if two individuals love each other, they should be allowed to marry?
What if a man loves a pig, or what if a man loves a five year old boy? I just don't see it going in the right direction.
paxetaurora said:I fixed it for you, Irvine. At least I hope that's how you wanted it.
Irvine511 said:
because 5 year old boys and pigs are unable to consent to an adult relationship. and these constant comparisons between homosexuality and bestiality and pedophilia (the latter two of which are crimes, precisely because they comprise an abusive relationship between adults and either animals or children) are offensive in the extreme.
it's so depressing. i've never committed a crime in my life, i've never hurt anyone in my life, all i've done is have two (count 'em, two) adult relationships with members of my gender, and i have to hear both in this forum and on the floor of Congress (thank you Sen. Santorum) these relationships compared to pigs and children.
part of me wants to say "go fuck yourself" but i realize that's destructive too and precislely the wrong message. i should say "let's have a beer and talk" and you'll realize that whatever heterosexual relationships you have are very nearly the same as the homosexual relationships i've had and neither of the two has the least bit in common with crimes like beastiality and pedophilia.
so, let's have a beer and talk.
MrsSpringsteen said:I just can't understand why you should have to answer questions like this-I don't have to answer them about my attraction towards men, and neither do any heterosexuals that I know.
Irvine511 said:
it's so depressing. i've never committed a crime in my life, i've never hurt anyone in my life, all i've done is have two (count 'em, two) adult relationships with members of my gender, and i have to hear both in this forum and on the floor of Congress (thank you Sen. Santorum) these relationships compared to pigs and children.
anitram said:
I sincerely believe that in a hundred years, children will be sitting in school, reading about the blatant bigotry and discrimination experienced by homosexuals and wonder who these bigots were and how it was possible they were allowed to do what they did. Much in the same way we wonder now how it is possible that people had to sit in the back of the bus and drink from separate water fountains.
I hope for people like yourself that we get there a lot sooner than a hundred years.
Nobody's equal until everybody's equal.
because 5 year old boys and pigs are unable to consent to an adult relationship. and these constant comparisons between homosexuality and bestiality and pedophilia (the latter two of which are crimes, precisely because they comprise an abusive relationship between adults and either animals or children) are offensive in the extreme.
anitram said:
I sincerely believe that in a hundred years, children will be sitting in school, reading about the blatant bigotry and discrimination experienced by homosexuals and wonder who these bigots were and how it was possible they were allowed to do what they did. Much in the same way we wonder now how it is possible that people had to sit in the back of the bus and drink from separate water fountains.
I hope for people like yourself that we get there a lot sooner than a hundred years.
Nobody's equal until everybody's equal.
Golightly Grrl said:I don't think homosexuals could fuck up marriage anymore than heterosexuals have.
Defining marriage as an art or some other baloney is, in my opinion, political correctness gone mad. How are we supposed to raise kids the right way if we allow the far-left to redefine marriage? I'm sure that most of us would dislike the thought of any of our children becoming homosexuals, so why are we playing with fire?Irvine511 said:because 5 year old boys and pigs are unable to consent to an adult relationship. and these constant comparisons between homosexuality and bestiality and pedophilia (the latter two of which are crimes, precisely because they comprise an abusive relationship between adults and either animals or children) are offensive in the extreme.
so, let's have a beer and talk.
Macfistowannabe said:I'm sure that most of us would dislike the thought of any of our children becoming homosexuals, so why are we playing with fire?
Macfistowannabe said:Defining marriage as an art or some other baloney is, in my opinion, political correctness gone mad. How are we supposed to raise kids the right way if we allow the far-left to redefine marriage? I'm sure that most of us would dislike the thought of any of our children becoming homosexuals, so why are we playing with fire?
Having a traditional belief system doesn't make me a homophobe. I've heard liberal people say the exact same thing - they wouldn't prefer that their children would become gay. I'm not saying you should love them any less, but in order to protect my future children from a moral drought, I supported the ban on gay marriage.joyfulgirl said:
Excuse me??? Please stop projecting your homophobic beliefs onto "most of us."
Macfistowannabe said:Defining marriage as an art or some other baloney is, in my opinion, political correctness gone mad. How are we supposed to raise kids the right way if we allow the far-left to redefine marriage? I'm sure that most of us would dislike the thought of any of our children becoming homosexuals, so why are we playing with fire?
Macfistowannabe said:
Having a traditional belief system doesn't make me a homophobe. I've heard liberal people say the exact same thing - they wouldn't prefer that their children would become gay. I'm not saying you should love them any less, but in order to protect my future children from a moral drought, I supported the ban on gay marriage.
Irvine511 said:
marriage is an art? maybe a couple staying committed to each other forever is an art (as i'm sure both hetero and homosexuals will attest to ... i'm too young to offer an insight). marriage is a contract. it is firstly legal, and then cultural and religious.
Irvine511 said:
you're right, i don't think any parent would want their child to be gay, mostly because of how much more difficult life is, as well as the very natural tendency to want your children to follow in the same path you did.
Irvine511 said:
finally, common sense would tell us that the best way to "raise kids the right way" would be to have two good, loving parents. but this isn't always the case. i'd rather have one good parent than 2 bad ones. i'd rather have 2 good gay parents than 2 bad straight ones. that aside, it's those kinds of statements that drive me (and many on the left) nuts.
Macfistowannabe said:
I must define what I believe the right way is: Loving, caring, attentive, god-fearing, and moral.
Macfistowannabe said:God-fearing.