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Old 12-21-2006, 08:12 PM   #41
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Old 12-21-2006, 08:43 PM   #42
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Points well noted, Harry Vest, but the judges and jury couldn't do anything about it because they don't create the laws, nor can they change them in the courtroom to suit their needs.

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Originally posted by BrownEyedBoy
What can be done in these cases according to american law? Can he appeal to a Federal Court?

I can´t imagine on what grounds though... ? Surely, SOMETHING could be done...??
I'm not a lawyer but I believe he could appeal all the way to the Supreme Court claiming the law is unconstitutional. Though the composition of the court has changed, they did throw out the Texas sodomy law a couple years ago.

And yeah, every country that is old (not old, like you had Romans settle your cities, but since the founding of your current Republic...so Germany for example is only just over 60) has this problem, the older the body of law the worse it gets. Voters and press reward legislators for passing laws, not repealing them, with the rare high profile exception. You'd think they could come up with a systematic fix - automatically review laws when they are x many years old or something.
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Despite being just 60 years old, we have stupid laws as well

Hoepfully he can appeal before a higher court, but it sounds like he is one of those cases where you can't do much because the time he was sentenced the old law still was in power
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Old 12-22-2006, 08:04 AM   #45
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In Singapore, there was a case a few years ago about this very same issue.

Apparently thanks to the legacy of British colonial law oral sex was still technically illegal in Singapore, and this bloke got charged for it.

The charges were dropped (or were clarified, I think) but he still got jail time though, for sex with a minor. Still, considering he was near 30 at the time I suppose he got what was coming to him.

Anyway there was a law review this year and a lot of the old colonial legacy kind of laws were scrapped so now it's OK to have oral sex (jeez, felt weird typing that). Unless you do it in public, of course.

Edit: Hang on! This is interesting reading about the case.
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Old 12-22-2006, 08:26 AM   #46
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Originally posted by Chizip
btw they have already changed the law, but it was too late to help him
Except he could get pardoned by the governor or even the President.

But considering that both probably still live in the Stone Age and don't want to offend "Concerned Christofascists for America" or something of the sort, he'll probably stay in prison.
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Old 12-22-2006, 09:24 AM   #47
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Not sure if all the sodomy stuff is relevant, unless I'm missing something...I assume he'd get the same punishment if it was regular old sex. The issue is age of consent, right? If so I'm pretty sure all states have laws against sex with underage girls. If he's getting a stiffer penalty because it was oral sex then that seems unfair. Also, if the issue was oral sex, rather than age, shouldn't the girl be punished too?
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Old 12-24-2006, 05:37 PM   #48
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Let's keep going on this one. Everyone (especially AMERICAN CITIZENS) should go online to www.wilsonappeal.com and sign the petition. It's the least we can do for this poor guy. Geez.
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Old 12-24-2006, 06:16 PM   #49
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5 questions:

1. Did they have intercourse?
2. Are here parents heavily involved with the prosecution?
3. Didn't R. Kelly do a very similar act - and is still alowed on MTV and tour the US arenas?
4. Was the video the only reason he got charged?
5. Where is the creating underage pornography charge?

I would have no problem if he got 10 years for #5.
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who taped this? was it video survalence? or was there someone standing there with a video camera?
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10 years is a bit extreme!

Gotta love the laws in this country.
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Old 12-25-2006, 01:39 AM   #53
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That is unbelievable, I really can't find the words to do justice to how bad that makes me feel, he's only a kid himself, what kind of fucking drugs do judges take before they pass sentence!
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These "Judges" will suffer the same treatment (or worse) in the future - weather it is here or in another world altogether. Shame on these so called "keepers of the law"!!! True justice will prevail one day.
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Originally posted by Harry Vest
These "Judges" will suffer the same treatment (or worse) in the future - weather it is here or in another world altogether. Shame on these so called "keepers of the law"!!! True justice will prevail one day.
Hey I'm in total agreement that the punishment is not befitting of the "crime" and the law needs to be changed (apparently has?), but you would honestly support a legal system where sentencing is completely open-ended for the judge to decide? Quite a dangerous precedent you're arguing for here, don't you think? And how is this ALL the judge's fault that s/he should be damned to hell? Didn't s/he admit that the mandatory sentence is outrageous?
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Old 12-27-2006, 04:52 AM   #56
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Mandatory sentences like the ones that people demand whenever a paedophile gets off with a lenient sentence. Regardless a young mans life has been ruined.
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:35 AM   #57
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Originally posted by Chizip

In Georgia, up until 1998 having oral sex with your SPOUSE, was considered a crime that was punishable up to 20 years in prison. There are some crazy laws out there.
sorry but... this is the funniest law ever passed! that's just hilarious.

There's something I don't get here For a crime to be punishable, it has to be found out, right?

Conclusion: better have oral sex in private
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Originally posted by Irvine511

you Euros love that shit.

Nice to see that nobody objected to this part of Irvine's post.... I do though...
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Originally posted by Dutch Partygirl

Nice to see that nobody objected to this part of Irvine's post.... I do though...
You're not alone...

Funny how us "Euros" are so much more liberal when it comes to that "gay shit"

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