Yes or No only: Do U2 have less integrity now than in 1987 (JT era)? - Page 8

matt76 · 02-02-2005, 04:08 AM

No

**ramblin rose** · 02-02-2005, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by paulrg
No, in fact more.

beau2ifulday · 02-02-2005, 04:36 AM

Yes.

digsy · 02-02-2005, 07:42 AM

yes

Shaliz · 02-02-2005, 12:38 PM

no

TheFly84138 · 02-02-2005, 01:47 PM

No.

A band loses their 'intergrity' as soon as they sign a contract to a higher power. I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing, just a true thing.

z00ropean · 02-03-2005, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jick
Yes or No only: Do U2 have less integrity now than in 1987 (JT era)?

By integrity, I mean everything - not just artistic integrity or personal integrity. The whole broad all-eoncompassing definition of integrity in general.

If the question is too complicated to answer, just don't reply in this post.

No long explanations, just a yes or no. If the question is not clear to you, then just refrain from answering it.

My answer: YES.

Cheers,

J

you're an asshole jick!

doctorwho · 02-03-2005, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by U2girl
If you're asking if U2 is the same band that they were in 1987, no.

They haven't been the same since 1991.

I would contend they haven't been the same band since, oh, 1988. *snicker*

Seriously, the world changes - is it the same world as it was in 1987? Why, I recall seeing videos regularly on MTV back then. I recall radio actually playing a variety of music and taking chances on new artists. I recall singles being a big part of music.

However, while many things are the same, many more stay the same. The 80's also saw Michael Jackson and Madonna do Pepsi commercials (even though Madonna's was later yanked).

It just seems odd that when U2 do a commercial that essentually advertises how consumers can buy their song on a music site - people scream "sell out". Yet, when others let their music appear in car commercials or soda ads, it's more acceptable.

I think Iggy Pop once said that he doesn't care if one of his songs appears in a car commercial now - it wasn't written with that goal in mind. And that's the spirit I see in U2's music. But as U2 have a greater control over their songs than most artists, I'm proud that they haven't just sold their catalog to the highest bidders.

To me, that's integrity - it takes a lot to maintain it in today's world.

jendzi · 02-03-2005, 07:49 AM

Yes

**ramblin rose** · 02-03-2005, 08:05 AM

I want to be sure that people are understanding the question being asked here, as I'm a little surprised by some of the responses:

Question:
Yes or No only: Do U2 have less integrity now than in 1987 (JT era)?

Yes: U2 has less integrity now than in 1987

No: U2 does not have less integrity now than in 1987

MrBrau1 · 02-03-2005, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ramblin rose
I want to be sure that people are understanding the question being asked here, as I'm a little surprised by some of the responses:

Question:
Yes or No only: Do U2 have less integrity now than in 1987 (JT era)?

Yes: U2 has less integrity now than in 1987

No: U2 does not have less integrity now than in 1987

That should have been done on post #1, not page 10.

jick · 02-03-2005, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ramblin rose
I want to be sure that people are understanding the question being asked here, as I'm a little surprised by some of the responses:

Question:
Yes or No only: Do U2 have less integrity now than in 1987 (JT era)?

Yes: U2 has less integrity now than in 1987

No: U2 does not have less integrity now than in 1987

U2 fans are an intelligent bunch and I'm sure can understand the question. The running tally now is 21-17, still in favor of the YES votes.

Cheers,

J

SkeeK · 02-03-2005, 04:47 PM

yes

thrillme · 02-03-2005, 11:33 PM

No.

*another vote for "more so" too*

RademR · 02-03-2005, 11:36 PM

no

mysticchild · 02-03-2005, 11:58 PM

I hate say this and it hurts to say it, Yes. There is a different energy i feel. JT came out at a perfect time. I feel that for me, it seems that salesl wise, it has gone down. But they are so huge now, it is sick. There was something so special back in the 80's about them. It felt so true to me and completely honest. It was the record that broke them mega rock stars. They have always had a following and it was nice. It just seems that things are different and I know we all have to change. That is part of life. Yes, again I do feel a big change and less integrity but I do stll love them and always will. it also seemed so simple and the concerts were not huge extravagant events.

jick · 02-04-2005, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mysticchild
I hate say this and it hurts to say it, Yes. There is a different energy i feel. JT came out at a perfect time. I feel that for me, it seems that salesl wise, it has gone down. But they are so huge now, it is sick. There was something so special back in the 80's about them. It felt so true to me and completely honest. It was the record that broke them mega rock stars. They have always had a following and it was nice. It just seems that things are different and I know we all have to change. That is part of life. Yes, again I do feel a big change and less integrity but I do stll love them and always will. it also seemed so simple and the concerts were not huge extravagant events.

Well put. There surely is a certain shift, but it doesn't really make their music any less enjoyable now.

Cheers,

J

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TheFly84138 The Fly Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 183 Local Time: 09:54 PM	No. A band loses their 'intergrity' as soon as they sign a contract to a higher power. I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing, just a true thing.

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02-03-2005, 11:58 PM	#156
mysticchild Acrobat Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: N. Hollywood Posts: 421 Local Time: 02:54 PM	I hate say this and it hurts to say it, Yes. There is a different energy i feel. JT came out at a perfect time. I feel that for me, it seems that salesl wise, it has gone down. But they are so huge now, it is sick. There was something so special back in the 80's about them. It felt so true to me and completely honest. It was the record that broke them mega rock stars. They have always had a following and it was nice. It just seems that things are different and I know we all have to change. That is part of life. Yes, again I do feel a big change and less integrity but I do stll love them and always will. it also seemed so simple and the concerts were not huge extravagant events.