Would you like to see GA again?

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OK, the GA topic has probably been discussed already, but i was just wondering what the general consesus is out there. Do people want U2 (or other bands, for that matter) to do GA again? or was it too much of a hassle? please post your thoughts!

personally, i loved GA. it enabled me to get a better view than i ever could have afforded to pay for had there been seats. plus, the people i met "in line" were (for the most part) awesome. and the energy on the floor was amazing.

however, there certainly are many people out there who didn't like the GA system. do you guys think U2 will use GA again?

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I loved GA! I don't think I could ever go back to seats.
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It just wouldn't be the same.

Besides, the GA lines were part of the great fun of the whole tour...meeting other fans, creating community, etc. I'll be curious to see what they do in the future and only hope that they'll keep the GA thing.

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I love GA. I try to go to U2 concerts in seats but it isn't the same. I agree, it is really fun to meet people in line! I just love it.
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I REALLY hope they bring GA back.

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I saw LA#1 in GA, and LA#3 in seats, and there's just no comparison. GA is so much more fitting than being restricted by rows of seats (even though we didn't sit down once the concert started). You get more of a sense of community when you're in GA (especially the heart), and the intensity in the heart is great. You almost feel silly to be jumping up and down in the seats cause no one else is. Whereas in the heart you should feel embarassed if you're not jumping around.
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GA is THE way to experience a U2 show in it's fullest.

[This message has been edited by Diemen (edited 12-07-2001).]
 
i think every show i see from now on will be downhill relative to the elevation show i saw from the heart. that includes any future U2 shows i see, just because nothing can or will top that. nothing i can think of anyway.

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It depends. If U2 goes back to stadiums, GA might not be as feasible anymore--i.e., you are more apt to chaos.

But U2 seemingly has very capable people around them in regards to tour planning (in contrast to everything else
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GA! GA! GA!! I loved it!!
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I couldn't imagine seeing another U2 gig with seats on the floor. It just doesn't seem right, and hopefully they will see this too. I never had one bad experience with it and saw all my shows in GA this tour. It's the only way if you ask me. However, it could get really out of hand in the future with people lining up days before. So who knows what'll happen.

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Honestly- does anyone DISLIKE GA? 'Cause I don't think it's possible. It made every concert I went to that much better.

The only drawback is that it's sometimes hard to get tickets....
 
Originally posted by Angel:
However, it could get really out of hand in the future with people lining up days before. So who knows what'll happen.


i agree, angel. but i don't like the idea of a "lottery system" either- that just seems too random. hmmmm... how has europe handled the GA system for so many years? do you guys across the atlantic have people lining up days in advance for shows, too? or are we americans the only insane ones?
 
Ok, I will go against the grain here. I did like GA but I would rather have seats on the floor. Hear me out before you starting slamming me.

Anyone who says waiting outside all day is part of the fun was not in the GA line for the 10-16-01 Chicago show. It was literally "hell freezing over" out there between the freezing rain and the 30mph winds making it feel like 3 degrees. It was worth it but it certainly was not fun.

I liked GA in that if I wanted to kill an entire day I could make it up close to see U2. But while I liked the shows better on this tour I found I had more overall fun on the Popmart tour as a whole. Why? because I could spend the day seeing some sites, trying to meet the band, etc. It was much more relaxing and I had a ton of energy for the show. Propaganda provided me with reserved seats within the first 15 rows for most of the 9 Popmart shows I saw including seats 4th row center for the 3rd Chicago Popmart show. So I got to see them super close, plus I wasnt completely whipped from waiting in line for 18 hours. The crowd was just as into it with seats on the floor as they were without them IMO (at least it was at the Chicago Popmart shows). Before anyone says it, NO you dont sit in your seats during the show! Everybody stands, sometimes on top of the chairs themselves! But you do have a spot to sit while you are waiting for U2 to come on which was nice.

The GA line was great when the weather was great and when there was not the camp out overnight insanity. But during Popmart I met just as many fans waiting to meet the band as I did in the GA line so I still got alot of fan interaction, plus I met the band twice as much.

U2 will probebly stick with GA now as I think they prefer it and I have faith in U2 to make it a safe situation even if they go into stadiums. One thing I think U2 needs to do though is either have their security control the GA line situation or have strict guidelines given to each venue as to how they should handle it. There was near choas in a few markets on this tour because the venue did a crappy job with the line.

I would be just as happy if they went back to reserved seating on the floor as long as Propaganda was providing tickets.

If they do GA I will be out there again all day to get as close as possible as I will do what it takes to get a good spot to see the band. I would just prefer a reserved spot up close.
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Ok, slam away!




[This message has been edited by Blue Room (edited 12-07-2001).]
 
no slams, Blue Room. I thought that was a well-written and intelligent response by someone that has obviously been around enough to know what they speak of.
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I agree that the line situation is getting out of control (now if they'd only play that song more often!
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) It would be great if they could work out a uniform policy that would cover ALL the venues so chaos could be avoided.
 
LOVED getting close to the boyz...but HATED all the hassles and headaches to get tickets to do it. My GA line experiences were great, BUT, it was such a headache trying to procure a GA ticket (and Ticketbastard sure didn't help), and some of the people inside/outside the heart were very annoying, drunk, pushy and rude. That part I didn't like.

However, I don't want GA to go away completely...but maybe the Heart should...just let it all be open GA floor tickets without the heart...first come first served. I don't think putting seats/chairs on the floor would help - it might only complicate things, esp. when people start standing on them for a better view...
 
Actually Discotheque, the heart was ingenious as it not only put the band closer to most of the audience it provided great safety. Most accidents involving GA are the result of stampede or pushing for the very front. If you open up the entire floor you have 3 times as many people pushing for the front. It is an accident waiting to happen. If they do GA in stadiums they will have a similiar heart type set up IMO. Plus they will probebly use the barracade system like they do in Europe which separates the floor or field into sections to avoid 30,000 people pushing for the front.

Sula, that is a great idea about Propaganda. In fact I suggested that at the beginning of the tour when there were chaotic problems with the GA line. A Propaganda heart pass would have been outstanding!



[This message has been edited by Blue Room (edited 12-07-2001).]
 
Originally posted by Blue Room:
Sula, that is a great idea about Propaganda. In fact I suggested that at the beginning of the tour when there were chaotic problems with the GA line.

Yep, I agree. That way you get genuine fans down front in the heart and you eliminate the confusion of "who's going to be in the heart".
 
Originally posted by Blue Room:
Anyone who says waiting outside all day is part of the fun was not in the GA line for the 10-16-01 Chicago show. It was literally "hell freezing over" out there between the freezing rain and the 30mph winds making it feel like 3 degrees. It was worth it but it certainly was not fun.

The GA line was great when the weather was great and when there was not the camp out overnight insanity.

Exactly. I waited in line all day (and all night) for the 10-16 show and came away from the experience elated, but chapped, ill and exhuasted. Compare this to my Chicago 4 experience in May when I showed up at noon and had a similar spot in the heart without the 18 hours of waiting in the blistering cold and freezing rain.

That said, I never want to have reserved seats for a U2 concert again. I absolutely LOVE being in the heart. And I love meeting all of the wonderful U2 fans in line. I do think things have gotten a bit out of hand with camping out (two days before the concert in Miami?!?) but if U2 keep offering GA, I'll keep camping out.
 
I said it already and will say it again , the difference between seats and GA is like difference between watching porno-movie and have sex yourself ,, GA is great democratic healthy thing , please!!!!! don't remove it
 
Nice analogy??

I had just as much fun when there were seats on the floor for Popmart as I did for GA with Elevation. So I disagree with your preverse analogy which I dont really think applies.
 
Originally posted by Hallelujah Here She Comes:
Exactly. I waited in line all day (and all night) for the 10-16 show and came away from the experience elated, but chapped, ill and exhuasted. Compare this to my Chicago 4 experience in May when I showed up at noon and had a similar spot in the heart without the 18 hours of waiting in the blistering cold and freezing rain.

I was at those shows too! Waiting in line on 10/16 was pretty horrible, although it was worth it. I'm all for GA, but I wish the lining up would be restricted to the day of the concert. It was so nice on the first leg when you could show up at noon and still get a spot in the heart- all the camping out is kind of ridiculous and drains your energy. I really don't know how they could prevent people from lining up early, though.



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Originally posted by sulawesigirl4:
ooh, ooh, I got it! Keep the heart and only sell heart tickets through Propaganda!
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I agree.

That would severely restrict those people who choose to arrive at the venue up to 48 hours in advance, and would give a chance to the people who live in the actual city or around it a better shot at being at the front.
 
We (I'll have to tell you all how I subverted my husband...) saw two Elevation shows in seats, then caught the Lexington show in the heart. We had seated tickets for Columbus, but we bought GA tickets when we got there instead. I saw three 3rd leg shows, all GA. LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT!! Like Sula, I met so many cool people that I immediately considered my friends (including Sula!) (tho there is at least one person I owe an apology to.. sorry, Twins' best friend, whoever you are
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) I hope GA is a continuing tradition, though it would be a tiny bit nice if it were a tiny bit easier. 48 hours without real sleep is hard on a girl.

I saw both Popmart shows in Dublin, which were at Lansdowne Road, a soccer stadium that holds, I think, 40,000 people. The "pitch" (field, for the Americans out there) was general admission, but there was a corridor made out of railings about a third of the way down the pitch--i.e. 1/3 of the field was close to the stage, 2/3 of the field was behind the corridor, and the two sections of the field were separated by this corridor. Some observations:

There were four doors to line up at, but we had to line up on the street until about 3, at which time we were marched to the doors. Your door was determined by a color printed on your ticket. No one was searched, patted down, wanded, or even glanced at, really.

Small groups of people kept showing up and getting at the front of our line throughout the day. The Americans were the only ones upset by this, or at least the only ones who said so.

I was right at the b-stage, inside the corridor in other words, and I was absolutely smashed up against everyone around me the whole night. I couldn't even move my arms much of the time. People constantly tried to move to the rail using their elbows as crowbars. I was drenched with a lovely mixture of anonymous sweat and spilled beer at the end of the night.

Security guards were passing cups of water to the crowd whenever anyone asked.

Many people were pissing drunk.

Everyone I could see knew every single word to every single song.

People were being pulled from behind the corridor in a constant stream of bruised, sweaty, fainting people. One girl reportedly cracked a couple of ribs; several reported bruising.

At the end of the show, there was trash EVERYWHERE. The houses around the stadium butt right up against the walls of the stadium--there are no parking lots of any kind. It's in kind of a ritzy neighborhood, and the residents sued to cancel the concert because they were sure U2 fans would trash everything, which, largely, they did. Nothing was broken or burned, it just seemed that there weren't trash cans anywhere. The Irish Supreme court had to approve the concerts (final judgement came on my birthday that year
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). Search the Irish Times (http://www.ireland.com) for U2 in the year 1997 for coverage, which was good.

I was the most fabulous experience in my life up to that point, but I'll take mildly pushy, less sweaty, American GA any day.

OK, you non-Americans out there are free to lambaste me now for being anal and afraid of germs. Such is the American way.
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Please see http://www.geocities.com/cindit8/dublin.html if you'd like to see information about our Dublin trip. We met up with about 30 or so other "Wirelings" and had a blast....

...sigh... When's that next tour, again?

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I'd like GA but no heart. Seriously, I was one of the people before the tour started who was all for GA and in theory I still am.

But guess what? I dont like waiting in line all day. Nope, not anymore. I am totally with Blue Room on this. Getting there at 1 or 2 in the afternoon and getting in the heart was cool on Leg 1. Getting there at 11 AM with 350+ people ALREADY AHEAD OF YOU and NOT getting in the heart is not! It just got out of control on Leg 3 with these self-proclaimed line lists who would not allow you to hold spaces for a friend who was on their way or stuff like that. That really irked me and I can relate to some of the anger U2Gator vented earlier last week in a Closed Thread about the NAZI linekeepers. I dont agree with his personal attacks but I feel the anger towards these nobodys who have been following U2 around the country and show up 24 hours before a concert to start the GA line and let their friends in but tell me I cant do the same for mine. The whole superiority and cliquishness of some of these people, some of whom may very well be interferencers, totally sucks and detracts from the fun of GA.

That being said, GA does rock! But the process to get into it does NOT. I would not mind GA for a floor of an arena, but not with the heart stress. And then waiting in line for 4-10 hours not knowing for sure that you are going to get into the heart can create massive anxiety and stress. It was so nerve wracking.

I am so glad that in L.A. I did not listen to the linelist nazis and when my friends got there TWO hours after me I let them in line with me. I made sure the people behind me knew about it and as far as I was concerned, thats all my responsibility belonged to. Not some bossy woman there since 10 PM the night before and at the front of the line taking names and giving you a number. PLEASE.

Yes I'm bitter! I really have mixed feelings. I like GA but not the process...
 
I only had GA for one of the five shows I saw on this tour and I , as well, have mixed feelings about it. Being THAT close (2nd row in front of Bono) was amazing because I have dreamed of that for over 10 years. The whole process of getting into the heart was VERY stressful though. I can't explain how annoyed I was to get there at 11pm the night before, be #46 and only having about 20 people in front of me for the whole night and part of the next day. I wanted to suggest taking roll calls at like 2 am and 4 am and 6 am (obvioulsy everyone would be warned of that first) and whoever wasn't there would lose their place, but I know that would just make the process even more psycho. It was just SO annoying to have to stand behind people who didn't seem all that excited to be there becaue they have been in that same exact spot on the rail numerous times....I know it's selfish but I just sorta wanted a turn (yes I do know I could have lined up earlier so I am certainly not blaming this on anyone else. I also don't want to complain about 2nd row because obvioulsy that is wicked close.) Anyway to sum it up, being in the heart was AWESOME, but the experience i had in line that day was not. I started to get annoyed at U2 fans in general but then realized I am one
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SO I think GA was a great idea for the show but the line was indeed getting sort of out of hand and personally I am not sure I would do it again as great as the vibe on the floor was.
 
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