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Old 11-14-2001, 04:26 PM   #41
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I'm from Kansas City, thus making it a concern.
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Old 11-14-2001, 04:58 PM   #42
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[quote]Originally posted by senrab:
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How can you say that? And you call yourself a U2 Fan!?!?!?!

Why don't you take your stuff and leave mister!!

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I think he was being sarcastic. ;-)
Hahahaha....how ironic is this?!?!

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Who gives a shit about them--I'm still waiting for a WHAM! reunion...


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Old 11-14-2001, 09:38 PM   #44
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why do I do that Blue Room? it's good advertising, and in this day and age, you have to get market value for the time you spend on your posts -- I generate a reaction because I espouse my opinion, however annoying that might be to you

I agree completely with what melon said in his earlier post, he said what I didn't feel like writing out, and he said it with splendid sarcasm and conviction, it's good to be on melon's side!

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Old 11-14-2001, 09:42 PM   #45
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I know people don't want to hear it, but U2 is simply charging what they are worth on the market. U2s ticket prices go up 50% on every new tour. This process has been happening since Boy. I new back in 1997 the ticket prices for the next tour would probably be like this.
Wonderer, lots of sporting events and concerts do come close to selling out. I don't exactly how many sell out, but I do no that most make a profit or there would not be any sporting events or concerts. Its a Business! Businesses that don't profit are not heard from again!
If these ticket prices are "unfair" then the buying public would stop going to these concerts. Just think of the hundreds of bands out there that never made it past the 80s or 70s. People stop purchasing the product for what ever the reason and now the bands are no more.
U2 goes for the largest concert gross they can get just like they did on their first tour for BOY! Its a marketing determination to find the right price that will produce the max profit. If the price is to High, many people will not go to the show, and the band will end up with a much smaller profit. If it is to low, the concert will of course sellout, but the band might not be able to pay for the cost of the show.
This is not new, U2 has done this for every tour they have ever done! I know a lot of people would like them to play for free, but that has never happened except for a few special cases, in U2s history.
The Rolling Stones Arena tour two years ago had two ticket prices, $300 and $100 and yes they sold out.
Its not the fanatics they sell these shows out, its casual fans and the general public. This tour has played to over 2 million people worldwide even though its an arena show! In terms of GROSS its about to become the most popular Concert tour in the History of the United States. Fanatics alone
would not be able to accomplish that. To have the top tour in the country, you have to be able to appeal to the general public or the least loyal or casual part of the band fanbase.
Based on what happened with POPMART in Kansas, and St. Louis, the current sales for those cities seem normal. Once more people find out about the show, I think they will sell out. If they don't, it will only be because there were only two weeks to sell the tickets.
An instant sell out would be cool, but these slow sales are in weak markets, and this really does not come as a surprise. These cities metro areas are only a fraction of say Washington DC, Philadelphia, Chicago, New York, Boston, San Fransisco, LA and many others.
The best U2 ever did in Kansas City was 37,000 tickets sold on ZOO TV. On Joshua Tree, the show was in the Arena. While U2 has had a comanding year in the USA, their popularity in this country is still not back to where it was on ZOO TV. But its getting closer to that which is why U2 has spent 80 of 113 shows in the USA! This tour has been a massive success! Record breaking! But most important, these U2 shows have been the greatest U2 shows I have ever seen! All 5 shows that I have been are in my top 10 of all time including the best two!
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Ok Wanderer, that answers it. To each his own I guess. Whatever it takes to make you happy or get your kicks.

To answer the question why do people care if it sells out. Because some people want U2 to succeed as much as possible. It just sounds cool and would be quite an accomplishment for U2 to be able to say the entire tour soldout. Also, for those of you in those poor selling market it does not bode well for a return on the next tour. As I said previously, I care because I'am rooting for U2. Thats all.
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To answer the question why do people care if it sells out. Because some people want U2 to succeed as much as possible.
That's exactly it. Glad you said it.
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Old 11-15-2001, 10:24 AM   #48
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They should come back to NYC and have 5 more shows.

All of them would sell out in like 5 minutes.
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To answer the question why do people care if it sells out. Because some people want U2 to succeed as much as possible. It just sounds cool and would be quite an accomplishment for U2 to be able to say the entire tour soldout. Also, for those of you in those poor selling market it does not bode well for a return on the next tour. As I said previously, I care because I'am rooting for U2. Thats all.
Maybe I shouldn't have used the word "care". I can understand that it would be cool to have sellouts, and that fans want their favorite band to succeed. That means more records and more tours in the future.

I was more wondering about those, on this and another list I read, who appear to be fretting about it and expending a lot of energy over it. It seems like an over identification with the band. It's not like they can do anything about it past buying a ticket. (Unless they know someone REALLY rich who will buy up all the extra tickets )

Maybe it's a guy thing Like those sports fans who know all the stats and stuff. I know it's all very entertaining to them, and completely incomprehensible to me. To each his own, I guess

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Come back to DC, Baltimore, Philly and U2 will have sell outs. DC only had two shows and one in Baltimore. Philly three shows. The market could handle 2 shows in DC and one in Baltimore and Philly easy. I say the hell with the slow markets. This not selling tickets are the reason they are called slow markets in the first place. Oh well I have seen them 6 times and just got back from Ireland. I still might go to Miami and Tampa.
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Old 11-17-2001, 12:07 PM   #51
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I just checked for best available with 4 tix in Kansas City and section 236 row S came up. That's nosebleed at the back of the arena! This show is finally selling briskly! Yeah! It's amazing it's selling at all. Case in point: a radio DJ last night said that no doubt was opening (no, it's garbage) and that the show sold out the day it went on sale! It's this kind of misinformation that screws up shows!
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Old 11-18-2001, 01:27 AM   #52
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I'm pretty sure they're selling behind the stage for St. Louis, as well; I did some checking for seats at the $45 level the other day and they were all coming up as behind the stage.

I, for one, am glad U2 does shows in smaller markets, because if they didn't add the St. Louis show this time around, I wouldn't have been able to see them at all, at any price level, since I wasn't able to get tix for any of the Chicago shows. The travel costs (and time!) to go anywhere else would have been impossible. I have to drive 3 hours for this show as it is. And my seats are basically nosebleed ones, as that's all I could get--the show may not be entirely sold out yet, but I wouldn't call the place empty by any means. Just because a show didn't sell out in minutes doesn't mean it's a disaster.

So it irks me a bit when folks say U2 should just skip the smaller markets in favor of doing even more shows in larger ones. Sure, those larger market shows may sell out faster, and more folks would probably get to see the boys more than once, but it would also exclude a significant part of U2's audience who already, if they aren't willing or able to travel long distance, have few opportunities.

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Sassafras, I think you are confusing shows. Most people on this thread (myself included) indicated that St Louis would probebly sellout. KC and Sacramento are the shows which looked like they were in trouble. I havent checked yet to see how well Tampa sold but that one concerned me ahead of time also.

I think U2 should definately play secondary markets. But if a show for example in KC at an 18,000 seat arena for the hottest tour of the by one of the biggest acts couldnt sellout you have to ask why even go to that market when other markets are selling out in an hour. It wouldn't be a good business decision for future tours if that happens. I hope KC does sellout, I think it is going to be close.
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Blue Room, I wasn't speaking specifically of the STL show as one that wouldn't sell out; I know that many here are particularly concerned with the show in KC.

I was responding generally to those who seemed to imply that U2 should skip smaller markets (like KC *and* STL) altogether in favor of adding even more shows in larger places like NY, Chicago, etc., and those who seem to feel that if a show doesn't sell out within an hour, the market is crappy and should be skipped next time around. That's all. (Note that I didn't say "sell out at all," because I do understand that if a show doesn't sell out, or at least make a respectable showing, then that will likely affect future tour decisions--for this reason I do hope KC sells well in the end.)

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