Week 64
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doctorwho
Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS
Voxson: Could you gather the U.K. data from Weeks 52-64? I'll add that to my data from Weeks 1-51 and that should bring us up to date.
Thanks!
WHYWHY
Acrobat
Well u2 dropped 9 places on the ARIA charts to No. 37:
U2 have been on the Charts for 55 weeks out of 64 since it was released.
TW LW TI HP
37 28 55 1 ALL THAT YOU CAN'T LEAVE BEHIND
Here's it's run on the ARIAs:
1-1-2-3-3-3-3(TP)-3-3-6
9-12-15-13-14-14-9-8-7-8(4P)
6-6-6-5-9-12-16-18-24-25
29-27-29-30-27-28-27-33-29-38
36-39-43-47-46-48-out-out-out-33
35-36-43-44-39-out-out-out-out-out
out-29-28-37
As you can see by where the album was certified as Triple Platinum and then 4X platinum, it would probably be around 6X platinum by now if it was investigated. It probably won;t be until the NEXT album that U2 will ask for a re-certification....if that's what they do...
Anyway, I was taking a look at the Aria charts to see who U2 has done better than:
Bob the builder has spent 12 weeks on the charts and is fallin rapidly. It fell from 12 to 24 this week.
J LO fell from 16 to 25 this week on her 28 th week. (Ok so this might not be better)
Nelly Furtado fell from 22 to 32 on her 41st week.
Britney at 37 from 33 on her 11th week.
Best of Pink Floyd at 35 from 23 on it's 10th week.
Green Day hits fell from 29 to 39 on it's 12th week.
Creed at 42 in it's 54 week (this is pretty close)
Nikki Webster at 44 from 42 on her 22nd week.
Smashing Pumpkins best hits at 45 from 32 on it's 9th week.
Best of Human nature at 47 from 34 in it's 9th week.
Gorillaz at 48 from 36 in it's 27th week.
Now for WALK ON:
Sad news....it fell from on the charts....to OFF the charts...
here was it's run:
9-21-32-X-34-34-40-out
It lasted some 7 weeks on the charts...the least of all the singles off ATYCLB.
Well, things aren't looking so fantastic for U2 in Aus, but it's been out for 15 months, so I guess you'd have to expect that.
Bless ya, and Bless U2.
WHYWHY
U2 have been on the Charts for 55 weeks out of 64 since it was released.
TW LW TI HP
37 28 55 1 ALL THAT YOU CAN'T LEAVE BEHIND
Here's it's run on the ARIAs:
1-1-2-3-3-3-3(TP)-3-3-6
9-12-15-13-14-14-9-8-7-8(4P)
6-6-6-5-9-12-16-18-24-25
29-27-29-30-27-28-27-33-29-38
36-39-43-47-46-48-out-out-out-33
35-36-43-44-39-out-out-out-out-out
out-29-28-37
As you can see by where the album was certified as Triple Platinum and then 4X platinum, it would probably be around 6X platinum by now if it was investigated. It probably won;t be until the NEXT album that U2 will ask for a re-certification....if that's what they do...
Anyway, I was taking a look at the Aria charts to see who U2 has done better than:
Bob the builder has spent 12 weeks on the charts and is fallin rapidly. It fell from 12 to 24 this week.
J LO fell from 16 to 25 this week on her 28 th week. (Ok so this might not be better)
Nelly Furtado fell from 22 to 32 on her 41st week.
Britney at 37 from 33 on her 11th week.
Best of Pink Floyd at 35 from 23 on it's 10th week.
Green Day hits fell from 29 to 39 on it's 12th week.
Creed at 42 in it's 54 week (this is pretty close)
Nikki Webster at 44 from 42 on her 22nd week.
Smashing Pumpkins best hits at 45 from 32 on it's 9th week.
Best of Human nature at 47 from 34 in it's 9th week.
Gorillaz at 48 from 36 in it's 27th week.
Now for WALK ON:
Sad news....it fell from on the charts....to OFF the charts...
here was it's run:
9-21-32-X-34-34-40-out
It lasted some 7 weeks on the charts...the least of all the singles off ATYCLB.
Well, things aren't looking so fantastic for U2 in Aus, but it's been out for 15 months, so I guess you'd have to expect that.
Bless ya, and Bless U2.
WHYWHY
WHYWHY
Acrobat
I'm actually quite annoyed at myself, I forgot to monitor the video charts.
Basically U2 debuted at No. 1, and stayed there for about 3 weeks. It fell to No. 2 last week (Week ending January 14th), and fell to No. 4 this week. Here's it's probable run:
1-1-1-2-4
(I'm not exactly sure, but I KNOW the DVD was at No. 1 for 2 weeks....I'm guessing it was there for 3 until Michael Jackson knocked it off the top).
Here's the DVD chart news:
the DVD fell from No. 2 to No. 6.
The chart run I believe is:
1-1-1-2-6
Ofcourse I'm not sure about the 3rd week on this chart aswell as on the video chart, but the DVD would stay higher for longer on the DVD charts as it is a much smaller chart and there a much fewer releases each week.
If anyone could help on this I would be most appreciative.
Bless ya.
WHYWHY
[This message has been edited by WHYWHY (edited 01-20-2002).]
Basically U2 debuted at No. 1, and stayed there for about 3 weeks. It fell to No. 2 last week (Week ending January 14th), and fell to No. 4 this week. Here's it's probable run:
1-1-1-2-4
(I'm not exactly sure, but I KNOW the DVD was at No. 1 for 2 weeks....I'm guessing it was there for 3 until Michael Jackson knocked it off the top).
Here's the DVD chart news:
the DVD fell from No. 2 to No. 6.
The chart run I believe is:
1-1-1-2-6
Ofcourse I'm not sure about the 3rd week on this chart aswell as on the video chart, but the DVD would stay higher for longer on the DVD charts as it is a much smaller chart and there a much fewer releases each week.
If anyone could help on this I would be most appreciative.
Bless ya.
WHYWHY
[This message has been edited by WHYWHY (edited 01-20-2002).]
womanfish
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
It looks as though U2 will suffer a big hit on the charts in the U.S. this week since the Grammy nomination glow has worn off. Just when you thought that sales on the charts couldn't get any worse, they fall sharply across the board yet again. According to hitsdailydouble, most albums are posting a double digit percentage decrease yet a again this week. Most around 10 to 15% less than last week. U2 is the biggest loser in the top 50 with a 30% decrease in sales. Seems that they were only spared the post holiday bomb because of the grammy nominations.
I predict U2 will fall around 15 places on the Billboard chart landing them just outside the top 50.
They will probably stay around that area until we see the Superbowl effect (which still has me puzzled as to what it will do).
More to come on Thursday!
I predict U2 will fall around 15 places on the Billboard chart landing them just outside the top 50.
They will probably stay around that area until we see the Superbowl effect (which still has me puzzled as to what it will do).
More to come on Thursday!
Popmartijn
Blue Crack Supplier
Hello,
Here is another update on the album that does not want to fade. This week, the charts are a bit boring, however. As always, the chart used is the Mega Top 100 ( http://web.planet.nl/music/charts/megatop100/ ).
This week, ATYCLB falls back to the position it was 2 weeks ago, #44. There is not much to say about this performance at this point. U2 isn't much in the media here, the Walk On single is almost out of the charts (see below). Only the Elevation DVD is performing very well (#2 for a few weeks, right behind Pearl Harbor). But every sale of a U2 album is a good sale.
The total run of ATYCLB so far is:
1-1-1-1-1-3-3-3-6-7
6-5-7-6-6-6-5-6-1-2
8-12-16-25-30-36-38-40-45-48
49-43-39-39-45-42-36-27-15-7
6-6-14-25-29-39-37-43-55-47
38-65-60-66-69-80-81-65-57-61
44-41-44
(all information prior to week 40 with many thanks to Flying Padre Jr.)
The Best Of 1980-1990 has a bigger drop on the charts as it falls 17 positions to #64. As with ATYCLB, there is not much to say about this, only that the sales of albums seems to be very low this week, causing a small difference to have a big impact on the charts.
The Best Of 1980-1990's (4th?) chart run is:
86-46-37-45-62-57-61-56-63-45
47-64
Just like last week, Dutch band Blof occupies the top position. Buena Vista Social Club is also hanging steady in the charts, rising a few positions to #91 (in their 212th week). This week, another album crosses the 100 week mark, Unplugged by The Corrs.
Blof's single Dichterbij Dan Ooit (Closer Than Ever) drops mirrors U2's Best Of performance on the album charts as it also drops 17 positions from #47 to #64.
And Walk On also drops 17 positions to #75. The single has charted for nine weeks now and I fear this is its last week on the charts.
Here is the chart run of Walk On:
31-8-10-28-32-41-49-58-75
What's Going On has disappeared from the charts. The single charted for 10 weeks, peaking at #26.
What's Going On's run on the charts was:
61-26-26-27-34-33-36-48-59-73-out
The #1 single also remains the same here. For a second week Lopen Op Het Water (Walking On Water) by Marco Borsato & Sita is the best-selling single.
As the single is a one-off release, there is no accompanying album.
C ya!
Marty
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People criticize me but I know it's not the end
I try to kick the truth, not just to make friends
Spearhead - People In Tha Middle
Here is another update on the album that does not want to fade. This week, the charts are a bit boring, however. As always, the chart used is the Mega Top 100 ( http://web.planet.nl/music/charts/megatop100/ ).
This week, ATYCLB falls back to the position it was 2 weeks ago, #44. There is not much to say about this performance at this point. U2 isn't much in the media here, the Walk On single is almost out of the charts (see below). Only the Elevation DVD is performing very well (#2 for a few weeks, right behind Pearl Harbor). But every sale of a U2 album is a good sale.
The total run of ATYCLB so far is:
1-1-1-1-1-3-3-3-6-7
6-5-7-6-6-6-5-6-1-2
8-12-16-25-30-36-38-40-45-48
49-43-39-39-45-42-36-27-15-7
6-6-14-25-29-39-37-43-55-47
38-65-60-66-69-80-81-65-57-61
44-41-44
(all information prior to week 40 with many thanks to Flying Padre Jr.)
The Best Of 1980-1990 has a bigger drop on the charts as it falls 17 positions to #64. As with ATYCLB, there is not much to say about this, only that the sales of albums seems to be very low this week, causing a small difference to have a big impact on the charts.
The Best Of 1980-1990's (4th?) chart run is:
86-46-37-45-62-57-61-56-63-45
47-64
Just like last week, Dutch band Blof occupies the top position. Buena Vista Social Club is also hanging steady in the charts, rising a few positions to #91 (in their 212th week). This week, another album crosses the 100 week mark, Unplugged by The Corrs.
Blof's single Dichterbij Dan Ooit (Closer Than Ever) drops mirrors U2's Best Of performance on the album charts as it also drops 17 positions from #47 to #64.
And Walk On also drops 17 positions to #75. The single has charted for nine weeks now and I fear this is its last week on the charts.
Here is the chart run of Walk On:
31-8-10-28-32-41-49-58-75
What's Going On has disappeared from the charts. The single charted for 10 weeks, peaking at #26.
What's Going On's run on the charts was:
61-26-26-27-34-33-36-48-59-73-out
The #1 single also remains the same here. For a second week Lopen Op Het Water (Walking On Water) by Marco Borsato & Sita is the best-selling single.
As the single is a one-off release, there is no accompanying album.
C ya!
Marty
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People criticize me but I know it's not the end
I try to kick the truth, not just to make friends
Spearhead - People In Tha Middle
Popmartijn
Blue Crack Supplier
Hello,
I just saw the new Billboard chart and I have Soundscan figures!
As predicted by Womanfish, U2 fell quite a bit on the Billboard 200, 17 positions to be exact. They're now at #56 with Soundscan sales of 19,411 (compared to last week's 26,122). And they barely made it to #56 as the #57 album (Diana Krall - The Look Of Love) only sold 3 copies less! (Although it is nothing compared to the #7 and #8 album as there is only a 1 copy difference between Nas and Usher.)
On the Pop Catalog chart The Best Of 1980-1990 drops seven positions to #20. And Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of slips 2 positions on the Hot 100 to #81.
Oh, and I've got Soundscan figures for the whole Billboard 200 (so all 200 albums) so if you're interested in an artist, just say so!
C ya!
Marty
P.S. In contrast to Womanfish's observation, sales in general are not down compared to last week. This week a total of about 4,15 million albums were sold by the top 200 albums, compared to 3,98 million last week.+
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People criticize me but I know it's not the end
I try to kick the truth, not just to make friends
Spearhead - People In Tha Middle
I just saw the new Billboard chart and I have Soundscan figures!
As predicted by Womanfish, U2 fell quite a bit on the Billboard 200, 17 positions to be exact. They're now at #56 with Soundscan sales of 19,411 (compared to last week's 26,122). And they barely made it to #56 as the #57 album (Diana Krall - The Look Of Love) only sold 3 copies less! (Although it is nothing compared to the #7 and #8 album as there is only a 1 copy difference between Nas and Usher.)
On the Pop Catalog chart The Best Of 1980-1990 drops seven positions to #20. And Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of slips 2 positions on the Hot 100 to #81.
Oh, and I've got Soundscan figures for the whole Billboard 200 (so all 200 albums) so if you're interested in an artist, just say so!
C ya!
Marty
P.S. In contrast to Womanfish's observation, sales in general are not down compared to last week. This week a total of about 4,15 million albums were sold by the top 200 albums, compared to 3,98 million last week.+
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People criticize me but I know it's not the end
I try to kick the truth, not just to make friends
Spearhead - People In Tha Middle
Popmartijn
Blue Crack Supplier
Hello,
I did some more research on U2's sales figures for ATYCLB. Please, don't ask me where I've been. In fact, I don't even know myself which forums I have visited.
Anyway, I've found ATYCLB's sales for the last six weeks. Here they are:
19411 (01/23)
26112 (01/16)
28045 (01/09)
41931 (01/02)
71594 (12/27)*
46032 (12/20)
Doctorwho, please take notice as some of these are estimated a bit off in your list (especially 12/27). For the date noted with a * I also have the total Soundscan sales. Including that week, the total was 3,230,673 copies sold. Now, if we add the figures of the other four weeks, we have a total of 3,346,172 copies sold of ATYCLB. Last week, Doctorwho estimated that ATYCLB had sold about 3,355,000 copies. As you can see, he was only 25,000-30,000 copies off (less than 1%). Congrats Doc, those estimates were quite accurate.
I don't know if Soundscan tracks copies sold through record clubs. If not, then I think the album is very close to a 4x platinum status (or maybe even over it). Whatever the result, I predict the album will be 4x platinum before the end of July (hmm, would be not that difficult, let's make that the end of June
).
C ya!
Marty
P.S. Does anyone have $7,500 to spare? Apparently, that is the subscription fee for unlimited access to Soundscan figures for 12 weeks (access to up to 20 titles costs $1,600 for 12 weeks).
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People criticize me but I know it's not the end
I try to kick the truth, not just to make friends
Spearhead - People In Tha Middle
I did some more research on U2's sales figures for ATYCLB. Please, don't ask me where I've been. In fact, I don't even know myself which forums I have visited.
Anyway, I've found ATYCLB's sales for the last six weeks. Here they are:
19411 (01/23)
26112 (01/16)
28045 (01/09)
41931 (01/02)
71594 (12/27)*
46032 (12/20)
Doctorwho, please take notice as some of these are estimated a bit off in your list (especially 12/27). For the date noted with a * I also have the total Soundscan sales. Including that week, the total was 3,230,673 copies sold. Now, if we add the figures of the other four weeks, we have a total of 3,346,172 copies sold of ATYCLB. Last week, Doctorwho estimated that ATYCLB had sold about 3,355,000 copies. As you can see, he was only 25,000-30,000 copies off (less than 1%). Congrats Doc, those estimates were quite accurate.
I don't know if Soundscan tracks copies sold through record clubs. If not, then I think the album is very close to a 4x platinum status (or maybe even over it). Whatever the result, I predict the album will be 4x platinum before the end of July (hmm, would be not that difficult, let's make that the end of June
C ya!
Marty
P.S. Does anyone have $7,500 to spare? Apparently, that is the subscription fee for unlimited access to Soundscan figures for 12 weeks (access to up to 20 titles costs $1,600 for 12 weeks).
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People criticize me but I know it's not the end
I try to kick the truth, not just to make friends
Spearhead - People In Tha Middle
womanfish
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
Well I hate to get picky, but this statement is a little scewed. when I stated sales were down across the board, I was not including the new #1 album by Alan Jackson. For one I don't really care about the album and two, it debuted big while almost every other album on the chart saw a significant decline in sales. The difference between the amount of copies sold this week and the amount sold last week is 170,000 copies. Alan Jackson sold about 430,000 albums so overall the rest of the artists on the charts sold quite a bit less.
Ok, now that that's off my chest LOL
Thanks for the great sales info with the soundscan numbers!! I knew that there was a fee to see the numbers, but I had no clue it was that much!! It makes no sense to me. What is the reason for keeping it so hush-hush?
One other little bit of info, Stuck remains at number 10 on the Adult Top 40 for a third week. It is now in it's 24th week on that chart.
U2 really took it on the chin this week, let's hope that the Superbowl, and lead up to the grammys can keep them in the top 60 or so.
doctorwho
Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS
*Bows worshipfully to PopMartijn*
WOW! Great job on getting all that SoundScan data. And thanks for the compliments!
$7500 for 12 weeks of SoundScan, eh? While I think having SoundScan data is interesting, my estimates, while a bit high, are reasonable. Therefore, I think paying that much for a mere 12 weeks access is just, oh, a "wee bit" silly.
As you stated, I would have been about 29,000 copies high - HOWEVER, if I can do some "blame-passing" my estimate was high because of others here. Yes - I succumbed to peer pressure.
Nonetheless, I was at least close. More important, thanks to you digging around on the 'net, PopMartijn, you found the actual total SoundScan sales. Great job! You probably saw the same charts that Melissa used to send me. I haven't heard from Melissa in quite some time now, so I'm not sure what's going on in her world. But I don't really care who gets the SoundScan information, as long as it is available. Matter of fact, by you doing this PopMartijn, it means less work for me!
With PopMartijn's figures, the first 64 weeks for ATYCLB on the U.S. Billboard charts are:
3-5-12-22-23-24-20(1xP)-18-22-16
19-19(2xP)-25-33-37-35-11-15-25-31
38-40-42-45-45-48-50-48-50-58
60-53-50-66-74-82-81-89-88-99
105-106-108-104-78-66-53-50-57-55
54-58(3xP)-62-67-80-77-78-76-69-71
74-58-39-56
"POP" was out of the Top 100 after 19 weeks and "Zooropa" was out of the Top 100 after 31 weeks. ATYCLB fell out of the Top 100 after 40 weeks, however, it has now returned for an additional 20 weeks. It has spent 60 out of 64 total weeks in the U.S. Top 100 and 23 weeks in the U.S. Top 40.
Approximate weekly sales for the first 64 weeks of ATYCLB are (rounded to nearest thousand):
428,000 + 176,000 + 119,000 + 125,000 + 100,000 + 113,000 + 154,000 + 259,000 + 108,000 + 66,000 + 59,000 + 57,000+ 47,000 + 44,000 + 41,000 + 49,000 + 85,000 + 74,000 + 54,000 + 48,000 + 43,000 + 39,000 + 37,000 + 39,000 + 30,000 + 29,000 + 26,000 + 29,000 + 25,000 + 24,000 + 27,000 + 30,000 + 31,000 + 24,000 + 22,000 + 18,000 + 19,000 + 17,000 + 17,000 + 15,000 + 14,000 + 14,000 + 13,000 + 13,000 + 16,000 + 19,000 + 21,000 + 23,000 + 22,000 + 22,000 + 24,000 + 25,000 + 24,000 + 23,000 + 21,000 + 28,000 + 28,000 + 30,000 + 46,000 + 72,000 + 42,000 + 28,000 + 26,000 + 19,000
Total U.S. SoundScan sales after 64 weeks are: 3,346,172 (note: due to the rounding involved in the weekly estimates, the total there is slightly higher than the actual SoundScan total).
Although the album dropped to #56 this week this is still impressive. A quick glance through the U.S. Billboard charts shows that only one other album that has been out for 64 weeks or longer is ranked at #56 or higher. Also, clearly overall sales are still low. This time last year, the #56 album sold 25,000 copies. I have last year's SoundScan data for this week, so PopMartijn, if you want to compare, we can do so.
One interesting note... Jay-Z released an album the same week that ATYCLB was released. Jay-Z's album beat U2 to the #1 spot that week. However, that Jay-Z album has long since fallen from the Top 200. In the interim, Jay-Z released another album. This album also hit #1. However, if you look at this week's Billboard charts, you'll see that Jay-Z's new album is ranked #85, despite being out only 19 weeks. In other words, it looks like ATYCLB, while not hitting #1, will outlast two of Jay-Z's albums (even though both of those reached #1).
With ATYCLB still floating nicely in the Top 100, the album should continue to hold on well. The Super Bowl performance coupled with some Grammy wins could keep the album going strong through March! The album *might* see hit 4x Platinum before finally exiting the charts.
On a slightly different topic...
One thing that annoyed me recently was when I read a comment from a retailer stating that ATYCLB didn't benefit from the holiday sales. This statement is erroneous. The sales for Christmas week, along with the week before and after the holiday, were 160,000 copies. It took U2 10 weeks to sell that many copies back during the summer. In other words, thanks to the holiday, ATYCLB sold as many copies in 3 weeks that it took 10 weeks to do earlier in the year. Don't you hate it when people state erroneous information? I think everyone should follow the charts like we do - then the world would be at peace.
[This message has been edited by doctorwho (edited 01-24-2002).]
womanfish
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
Great info as usual guys! I agree doctorwho, it seems that many people, including retailers, don't even realize what kind of sales figures are going on. They only look at chart placement. This guy thinks because U2 didn't bound up the charts during Christmas that they didn't sell any more! But when everyone on the chart increases sales by 75% or more and there are 10 new releases a week, just staying in the same place is doing great!
AAAAHHHH I imagine a world at peace, where everyone has access to Soundscan numbers, and no one is left ignorant.
AAAAHHHH I imagine a world at peace, where everyone has access to Soundscan numbers, and no one is left ignorant.
WHYWHY
Acrobat
Originally posted by womanfish:
AAAAHHHH I imagine a world at peace, where everyone has access to Soundscan numbers, and no one is left ignorant.
Ah, yes, but then the WHOLE truth would be out
Bless ya!
WHYWHY
[This message has been edited by WHYWHY (edited 01-24-2002).]
Popmartijn
Blue Crack Supplier
Originally posted by doctorwho:
On a slightly different topic...
One thing that annoyed me recently was when I read a comment from a retailer stating that ATYCLB didn't benefit from the holiday sales. This statement is erroneous. The sales for Christmas week, along with the week before and after the holiday, were 160,000 copies. It took U2 10 weeks to sell that many copies back during the summer. In other words, thanks to the holiday, ATYCLB sold as many copies in 3 weeks that it took 10 weeks to do earlier in the year. Don't you hate it when people state erroneous information? I think everyone should follow the charts like we do - then the world would be at peace.
Just a FYI, in the week before Christmas (when Creed sold nearly 900,000 copies, that week
I think those retailers should stick to selling records to consumers FOR A LOW PRICE!
C ya!
Marty
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People criticize me but I know it's not the end
I try to kick the truth, not just to make friends
Spearhead - People In Tha Middle
