U2girl

[ACROB@T]

I wrote:

I don't care about any argument between yourself and any member of this forum

But... and i do mean BUT...YOU WILL NOT THREATEN ANY MOD ON MY BOARD

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Actually Maja, the question mark was put there because I wanted Elvis to back up his claims...I was on pretty late last night and didn't see anything that violent or vulgar to warrant this thread...and I still don't see what all the fuss is about...everyone getting pissed off at people, angry at people, upset about what someone has said...and most of the time down to people we've never met..outside of this forum it would be a big deal but...I don't know...this thing seems overblown for my liking...there are more important things that are happenening and have happened in the last 5-6 weeks that nobody can understand or contemplate..bickering of this small magnitude should not be of any relevance to how we feel outside this place and to actually get upset, angry over...I recently labelled a certain part of this forum as becoming a paraody of itself..I guess I was way off...this place is slowly becoming a parody and losing sight...with it..the attraction it had..............

[This message has been edited by ACROB@T (edited 10-06-2001).]

 

[zooropamanda]

good call acrobat

 

[Angela Harlem]

Hi Acrobat. Just wanted to say Hi.

So HI!

U2girlie. I like you, I like your comments. But you need a break. You need to let this slide. I know you dont want to, you feel wronged. But Sicy does too. You 2 just dont get on. There is nothing wrong with that. You cant like everyone. But for her sanity, and yours, leave it be? Please? Acrobat is right.

So is Slomey, the mods are here to keep the balance/peace. They aren't out to win popularity contests. It just helps that they are pretty nice folks.

Girlie, go for a bike ride, bush walk, go fishing, see a movie with friends, get pissed down your at local, anything. And come back after you feel better with all new U2 stuff.

And avoid Sicy when you come back! It will be easy, SG does her thang, you do yours.

Easy!

 

[bonovista]

Okay, so I don't really like to get into any disputes on this board.
But I am going to state my opinion ( the lawyer in me, I guess).

I have seen other members who have been totally obnoxious creeps and have said even worse things than U2girl ever has.

I think this is just a personal attack on U2girl simply because Sicy just doesn't like her at all. I do NOT have anything against Sicy at all, but I do have something against injustice..and this thread aimed directly at U2girl, to totally humiliate her was totally uncalled for.

U2girl never stated anything that should cause anyone to get so upset about..I have read worse. I think an email would have sufficed, instead of this public display of humiliation of someone who has been aboard quite awhile.

Suddenly people are getting banned for speaking out, like my good buddy, who I will not mention his name. So many people are keeping silent about their displeasure of how this board has wavered towards an unfair attitude about some members. I see it as just plain mean.

When U2girl started a thread to question why I never talked about my ex-husband, I just let it be, a thread...Nothing more or nothing less. She apologized, and that was good enough for me.

 

[MadelynIris]

Hmmmm.....

I thought 'threats' and I mean the real kind, like 'I'm going to hunt you down and blow your car up' are intolerable, mods or not. I thought it was against the rules of this board.

So why are mods different?

And, of course, I never saw any 'real' threat. Just some juvenile smack talking.

Mark
http://www.mp3.com/madelyniris

 

[clarityat3am]

I've had my share of fallings out with U2girl myself, and you know what it is that upsets me the most is that she doesn't seem to understand our humor or sarcasm, and if she does she certainly doesn't let it slide. She's not open or accepting of other people's opinions or beliefs either. The reason that the same people get into the same arguments with her is because she responds to the same questions/statements that she "hates" so much and finds so inappropriate over and over and over again. It's very difficult to *not* say something back at her when she never lets things go. I think we'd all be hard pressed to find a thread of hers that didn't turn into an outright brawl for one reason or another. Yes, I'm guilty of fighting with her like we're 12 years old, but I can honestly say that I've only started the situation myself a couple of times. The rest of the time I wasn't bashing her or telling her off. Hell, most of the times that I can recall I was just trying to tell her in an objective way what it was that she was doing that was causing all these ridiculous problems anyway. Either way, she's grouped me in with Sicy and there I shall stay. If that's how she wants it to stay then that's how I'll leave it. I'm not going to argue with anyone else on this board about her or with her about anything again. In fact, I'm not going to respond to her posts in any thread. At this point I think that's the only solution to this problem. That's my rant...I'm done.

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"What's with all the glitter? I thought you didn't like our mirrorball lemon and shit. Well it's too late to change your mind now." -- Bono, Indianapolis, May 10, 2001

When you stop taking chances, you'll stay where you sit, you won't live any longer, but it'll feel like it --- Summer Rain

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[This message has been edited by clarityat3am (edited 10-06-2001).]

 

[doctorwho]

Excellent post, Bonovista!

A few months ago, I was incredibly annoyed with this boardroom. I reached out to the U2 community here in a time of pain and became even further wounded by the cruel comments of several members. I wanted to abandon this place - the one place I felt would provide solace.

The moderators, though, leapt into action. They reminded people of the "rules" of this boardroom and of general civility. They also banned a few people.

I did not ask for anyone to be banned, Bonovista, so my apologies if this event in July resulted in the banning of your friend. And your point is valid - if one is going to ban, then there should be continuity in the banning.

Nonetheless, the actions taken by the moderators so improved this boardroom that I happily returned and have enjoyed numerous conversations since that time. Therefore, I think it is time once again that we remind ourselves to be civil, if not caring, for each other. This is a stressful period for all of us in the world - let us not make it worse.

Regarding U2girl, I think we must remember that English is not her first language. As such, she most likely misses many of the subtleties of humor that we post. Additionally, humor in the written word is more challenging. Words don't always reveal sarcasm or light-hearted teasing. Sometimes, even the use of a smiley

doesn't truly emphasize our humorous intentions. Consequently, we should all be more considerate of U2girl's feelings and let her know that our comments were not meant to debase.

U2girl, of course, must also realize that a comment said against her is not always an attack. Have confidence in yourself, U2girl!

You are a very creative person (as exemplified by your numerous original topics posted for discussion). If someone doesn't agree with you, let it be. Don't feel the need to drag it out and discuss it ad nauseum. It was your idea, you liked it and you stated it. Enough said - let others share or discuss your idea with YOU being insulted by their words. Defend yourself if absolutely necessary, but do so in a concise, clarifying manner - don't begrudge people their questions. Mostly, realize that people here are usually joking or lightly teasing you - we mean no harm.

Lastly, U2girl, try not to pry. This is a boardroom about U2. Some people choose to share their thoughts and feelings about personal topics, others do not. If someone does not wish to share, then do not push them. It is impolite and immature to do so.

O.K., now... everyone - big group cookie!

 

[MrPryck2U]

Bonovista,
The problem with U2girl is that she has no filter. She doesn't know how to properly edit herself and her statemnets are often misinformed. I don't understand why everyone keeps picking on The Goddess. It's not her fault that U2girl has a penchant for posting some of the most ridiculous comments. U2girl should be held accountable for some of the Tourette's Syndromelike proclamations that she makes. The Goddess is just trying to keep her in line. So is Elvis.

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The goal is ELEVATION!

 

[zooropamanda]

Doctorwho and BV, excellent posts.
I think Drwho has hit the nail on the head.
Maja says she doesnt understand the humour, so should be accepted and not belittled.

Why must this place always get so personal?

 

[MadelynIris]

Here's a real threat for ya!

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by Interference.com.

 

[madamc]

hmmmm @ sexually oriented *thinks about what goes on in PLEBA*

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"What fish don't know"--Marshall McLuhan

http://www.envy.nu/u2webring/u2.htm

http://pussygalore.blogspot.com --NO, it's NOT porn

 

[MadelynIris]

Great, my 500th post and it's me posting the rules of the board.

How retarded! I'm a loser!

Mark
http://www.mp3.com/madelyniris

 

[U2girl]

Angela: let it slide? look, i know what you mean, but i've got to draw the line somewhere. i have my pride. though i have contemplated what you suggested. but i can't-i like this place too much.
(well my family and i did make some squeezed grape juice today from our grapevine. is that what you meant?)

Bonovista: i don't know why this started. my guess is Sicilian Goddess notified Elvis. humiliation? no. just the anger talking out of her. as for emailing, well, i suppose since it was directed at a mod, it kinda had to be settled in here.

both Angela and Bonovista: whether she hates me? i don't know. i don't think so, with the exception of occasions like these, we joke around and seem to get along.

thanks girls.

and, last but not least. Christine-i don't know how you interpreted my response to your threat. i definitely didn't mean to be hostile (at least not anything above writing things), and i really don't know what is gonna happen. how can i trust you not to jump on me again in the near future? how long till it snaps again between us? what else can go wrong? are you banning me next?

 

[zooropamanda]

hahahaa Mark

those rules were a good laugh to read

 

[madamc]

Originally posted by zooropamanda:
hahahaa Mark

those rules were a good laugh to read

uh huh!

 

[Salome]

Originally posted by zooropamanda:
Why must this place always get so personal?

I've thought about it long and hard

I think the answer is that some people over here just keep venting and venting until somebody or praises or insults them

and some are just in the wrong place at the wrong moment

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Salome
Shake it, shake it, shake it

 

[madamc]

it's because they want to create their own little soap opera. melo-drama baby...

personally, i think it isn't cool--and people should take this forum with a grain of salt.

 

[bonovista]

DoctorWho..
My banned friend had nothing at all to do with your thread last July. Actually your response to that person was quite civil, and tad more than I would have responded.

BTW...LOLOLOLOL@ Mark and the rules!!
Those rules would leave only two members left if applied.

 

[Angela Harlem]

Aren't you a mod Madam? lol


Actually, I mentioned this the other day, but were you ever in chat with Bonofide and I? And the Naomi Campbell 'legs' thing. Amongst others.?

Im sure it was you madam!

 

[U2girl]

*ahem* about the humor, doctorwho and others who pointed this out:

i can always laugh at clean, non-harmful humor (example: Salome, J. Swallow, Angela Harlem etc...). i think i wrote enough LOL's, ROTFs, and posted enough smileys to let it show. i think i pretty much get the humor around here-i don't think language is the problem.

i admit i am not good at laughing at myself-unless it is done by me (and very rarely if it isn't done by me). and i can't laugh at a joke which is pointing out a bad thing about me (like Most closed threads title). and since you people seem to notice it, why keep coming up with those types of jokes?

also, humor itself can be a matter of taste. what is funny to another person, may not be funny to me. for whatever reason. using winking smileys should be obligatory when joking around, just to make sure everyone gets it.

finally, about negative answers to my threads: i can't help but take it personally-since it is inteneded for me to read.
and i take things seriously in general. perhaps more than i should. i'm sensitive that way. but that is who i am.

ps: i just refuse being picked on, insults, being mocked. (because of posting too much, asking personal question, writing "stupid" things, having my own opinion, responding to others etc...)



[This message has been edited by U2girl (edited 10-06-2001).]

 

[unforgettableFOXfire]

Originally posted by U2girl:
are you banning me next?

Lets hope not... What fun is posting opinions if there isnt someone to bring up counter arguments? If it was all nice and we all got along Id have probably left 3 days ago. But Im still here because we have fun discussions, be them relevant or not. You can ban whomever you like, but its my opinion that its a slight abuse of power to ban someone who is a live wire at times, but also keeps things interesting, just because you dont like them.

Am I saying that the mods arent doing a good job? No, thats not my intent. Am I siding with U2girl? yeah, kinda, Im just trying to say that people are gonna say stuff you dont like all the time, and its very subjective. I said ear **** and sicy took offense to it, but of course people can say fuck and shit and whatever the hell else (I recall reading a post about censorship, something about cunt cheese). So you took offense to what I said, but not to the other? What kind of impression does that put out? So just because U2girl said something you dont like, she fears that youre considering banning her, probably with good reason.

Lets face it, we're all hypocrits, we complain about someone else doing something, but then one of our good friends does the exact same thing and suddenly its ok. But, being of higher authority, I feel that you should either let more things slide from everyone, or start censoring/closing posts on a more stringent basis. Unfortunately, mods, youre in a position where you have to take a lot of heat from people, everone with power does. Presidents, mayors, webmasters, parents. I hope that we can all either lighten up, or dont subject only a certain few people to the harsher rules. And I know, youre probably all going to bitch at me for telling you how to do your jobs, and if you feel that way, then fine, but again, that was not my intent.

 

[zooropamanda]

*swallows feedback with a pinch of salt*

*starts to gag on salomey's leg*

*chokes on crzy4bono's hair*

*maims her insides with z edge's Z*

*stomach is stomped by thousands of angry pleba girls*

*one lung is gnawed in half by deathbear and his many bear followers whilst they cut some ribs off with a chainsaw*

* tickled inside till made insane in the head by achtungs bebe and bubba*

*intestines are tangled up in bonovistaemeraldscorpio's ever changing place of residence*

* all blood quickly sucked out by skeek's myriad of posts*

* bowel is quickly squished by Angela harlem's threads in 6 degrees*

*bones collapse by the force of the wanderer's angry faces*

* skin and everything else left decompose into thousands of tiny bickering Kevs Bono smilies who run away squealing about why their threads were closed in chipmunk voices*

Zooropamanda is now dead

 

[madamc]

Originally posted by Angela Harlem:
Aren't you a mod Madam? lol


Actually, I mentioned this the other day, but were you ever in chat with Bonofide and I? And the Naomi Campbell 'legs' thing. Amongst others.?

Im sure it was you madam!

yeah--i havent seen you in a long while!!



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"What fish don't know"--Marshall McLuhan

http://www.envy.nu/u2webring/u2.htm

http://pussygalore.blogspot.com --NO, it's NOT porn

 

[brettig]

On behalf of Thom Yorke I would like to ask you to devise the concept for Radiohead's next 100 videoclips...


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Angry Faces are (edit)

 

[Angela Harlem]

Where oh where has the time gone Madam?

And where did BF go? And her other half?

Anyways....

You know that Radiohead actully SUCK dont you bert?

Its become very cool to like them, and I think thats uncool. But Im uncool, so...go figure.

 

[Crzy4Bono]

I thought long and hard about commenting on this thread, because I don't want to ask for abuse. (although I'm sure I can handle it if it comes

)

I've been accused of being idealistic a lot of times in my life, and I am sure this will apply here. But I feel the need to say this.

This is a U2 fan board. In my long experience as U2 fan, it has typically been my experience that U2 fans tend to be a bit more accepting of people as a whole, tend to be a bit more peace-loving and really want to just share community with other like-minded people. I certainly know that's why I'm here. If I want to get into a friendly argument, I take it to FYM where the people I'm talking to are aware that we are having an open sharing of ideas and debate and no one takes anything personally. That's certainly NOT what is going on here.

Here, though lately - it seems that THIS U2 community has become exclusionary with people taking up sides against one another, often for things that seem to me, at easy read, to be silly. I really don't want to come here for popularity contests - and it again seems to me that this is what it has come to.

If people think threads posted by another board member are silly and mindless, then don't read them! Don't respond! There's enough activity on this board that those threads will fall off to page 2 in no time, and into EYKIW oblivion.

There have been a lot of personal attacks here lately - on all sides - a grand feeling of are you "in" or "out". Surely, with another tour leg and the prospects of another album on the near horizon, we can find other things to talk about than each other.

At the risk of making a "bad list", I really feel this could've been handled quickly and easily with a deleted thread and an email. This is not aimed at anyone in particular, but I just feel that the "rules", such that they are, are not being evenly applied.

Peace

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Visit my web page at www.u2page.com

 

[Gina Marie]

Ok, I cannot believe I'm even replying to this thread, but...

*ties her hands together to try to stop herself*

The cliqueishness, favoritism, and occasional mean spirited-ness that goes on around here is often like a horrible high school flashback.

When you even have people posting about SUICIDE because their posts are ridiculed, it's really gone overboard.

And when people are intimidated to the point where they can't express their COMPLETE and honest opinion-as, truthfully, I am right now-then I think it's time to really take an honest look at this forum.

I truly hope that some people around here would NEVER say and do things in person that they do on this forum.

I have a very good sense of humor-but everyone's is different. And you still can't throw SENSITIVITY out the window.

 

[LarryMullen's POPAngel]

Well said, Crzy4Bono.

This place has looked a bit like a soap opera lately.

I came here to talk about U2 and have fun while meeting other fans as into them as me. Now it feels like I'm in high school all over again...

Anyway, I hope that the tide begins to turn in the next week, and some "Elevation" raises people's awareness as to why this board was started in the first place.

Cheers everyone!

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"I suppose I do everything in extremes-laugh a lot, cry a lot, fight a lot, make love a lot, eat too much, drink too much, try too much, cry too much. Pass the onion..." -Bono

~April~(AIMOPLemonGirl)

*~The Official POP_Whore of Interference~*

 

[follower]

Originally posted by Crzy4Bono:
Here, though lately - it seems that THIS U2 community has become exclusionary with people taking up sides against one another, often for things that seem to me, at easy read, to be silly. I really don't want to come here for popularity contests - and it again seems to me that this is what it has come to.

My thoughts precisely Laura...that?s the reason why I have been away lately. I?m not better than anyone here, I?m just a dierhard U2 fan and a peace lover, like you and many others. I definitely don?t like to waste my short free time reading people attacking each other or just trying to show off. I still hope that things here change somehow. It used to be a nice place to talk about U2.

 

[U2girl]

where is Sicilian Goddess to share her side of the story?

true, this is just a forum. and it's just the internet. the attitudes and relationships between posting members are resembling real life, though.
majority reads and posts occasionally, some resident jokers, some popular people, some wise people, some people who piss others off. and occasionally some clashes.
i don't think anything we've seen so far is beyond repair. but it will take time.

i thought of another thing-about me "not letting it slide" and taking things too personally (trust me, you'd be taking it personally too if you received as much negativity as me). well, i have a question for all of you:

if this was something between a mod/member and ANYONE else but me, would you still be on the mod's/member's side?
i wouldn't be so sure of that.



[This message has been edited by U2girl (edited 10-06-2001).]