Originally posted by Blue Room:
Flying, I never said he was bitter about it. Re read my post. I said that there is no way they really thought it deserved to win over ATYCLB but he would never say that. I do agree that he was probebly happy for his friend T Bone Burnett as well. But you know they wanted to win it and thought they should.
Well, sorry if I seemingly misinterpreted what you said in the following...
"There is little doubdt that U2 got robbed. U2 knows it as well. But they are going to be gracious about it."
"That doesnt mean they think it deserved album of the year."
I give you that the Edge may believe his own album is the shiznit. But with that said, I don't think that he is that competitive/ arrogant in his mind that he'd think that all the albums nominated shouldn't have been album of the year or that ATYCLB defintely deserved it above them especially for the critically acclaimed O'Brother. I mean I seriously doubt that the Edge thought they were "robbed" or "O'Brother..." didn't deserve the award. But saying the above implied that the Edge was bitter.
You never answered my question either. Do you really think O'Brother deserved to win over ATYCLB? I would like to hear your reasoning if you think it did.
I thought ATYCLB would win but didn't mind that
O'Brother Where Art Thou won.
Did it deserve to win? Uh this is the Grammys... an awards show, they usually get it wrong. I think an album like
Stankonia should have maybe won. Since this is mainly an American awards show I could see why
O'Brother Where art Thou won though.
(1) It sold well in the US. 3-4 million copies meaning it had mainstream success.
(2) It was critically acclaimed. I have never really seen any negative reviews of this soundtrack album. Only positive. Considered the best soundtrack album of the year as well as an album that carried the film. I 've reead several reviewers who were handicapping saying that it or
Stankonia deserved the award.
(3) You mention the fact that a lot of the songs are actually covers and and old traditional standards. Well that is true but we all know that a great song can be made greater by interpretation of the vocals for instance or arrangements. Many of the traditonal songs were "reinterpreted" (alah Harris, Welch, and Krauss).
(4) Well you'll counter that ATYCLB is original music created by the artists. Well I would just counter that album of the year in the Grammys does not mean "best album of original work" or "best album of non-covers." It is just best album of the year. Best for the year is highly subjective as we all know considering how fractured music is, so I'm not pissed that they lost. There has been precedence of a similar occurence happening and that is why I think O'Brother could have won. Also when I say that
Stankonia should have won, I was just hoping to see something more groundbreaking yet not as mainstream winning the award. I know Outkast is fairly mainstream now, but not as much as U2.
See if this analogy works to prove my point. Say you are in college and you are a very good student and well liked by the Staff and other students. You write a research paper and spend alot of time and effort to write something original and new. The paper is so good you are put up for an award with the school for best paper.
Another paper is also up for the award by a student who you are friends with but isnt all that well known with the other students or the staff but gets good grades. This students paper is a collection of prior research papers combined and given a few twists to the original papers. This paper wins over yours.
If you were the first student would you really think the 2nd students paper deserved to win over yours? Sure, if you were the first student you would be happy for your friend and you would be supportive but that doesnt mean you thought they should have won over your paper.
[This message has been edited by Blue Room (edited 02-28-2002).]
This is an interesting anology but the problem is you're assuming that Edge is thinking the worst of the situation when we don't really know. I don't know if he thought ATYCLB was more deserving just as you can't really. I just guessed that he wasn't pissed, just as you guessed he might be. The Edge might have hoped to win and that it was a candidate, but to say it is the best... is arrogant... oh wait, this is U2 we're talking about.
Also I noticed when T-Bone received album of the year award, Edge was still standing and applauding while other members of the band decided to sit.
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[This message has been edited by Flying FuManchu (edited 02-28-2002).]