LemonMacPhisto said:The relative quickness and rapidness of schedule for Zooropa worked to their advantage, but just didn't work so well for Pop I guess
They should've planned the tour AFTER the album felt finished for the band
Harry Vest said:Again, POP contains one of my top ten U2 songs of ALL time...GONE!!! It also contained PLEASE and WAKE UP DEAD MAN so it really wasn't that bad an album after all.
jick said:
U2 took a year to record POP. That makes it not as quick as Zooropa. But they should have given it another year like they did for HTDAAB.
Can you imagine if HTDAAB had Sometimes You Can't Make It and Native Son and Xanax&Wine from the demo versions instead of what we have now? That would be an awful unfinished album. Unfortunately that is what happened with POP and they already had booked the tour.
I think from now on, U2 will limit themselves to releasing albums exclusively on October November.
Cheers,
J
jick said:"Unfishined" - Bono.
"Unfinished" - Mullen.
"Disjointed" - Eno.
Cheers,
J
jick said:
Can you imagine if HTDAAB had Sometimes You Can't Make It and Native Son and Xanax&Wine from the demo versions instead of what we have now? That would be an awful unfinished album. Unfortunately that is what happened with POP and they already had booked the tour.
I think from now on, U2 will limit themselves to releasing albums exclusively on October November.
rjhbonovox said:
Hey if U2 had released HTDAAB a year earlier it would have been a better album! Native Son and Vertigo there aint much between them Xanax and Wine pisses all over fast cars no doubt about that and Sometimes, well all I can say is at least the original version didn't have the goddamn cringeworthy awful falsetto lines "its you when I look in the mirror, and its you when I dig up the bone". Yep, gotta say it would have been a better album!
Native Son's lyrics are cheesier than Vertigo, it is only musically better. Xanax and Wine, I agree with you, but it should not be an album track, just like Fast Cars. Original Sometimes sucks the big one, the horrible fat guitar sounds in the beginning, sounds like a goddam carnival. and Stevie L. is so right, it needed a chorus.rjhbonovox said:
Hey if U2 had released HTDAAB a year earlier it would have been a better album! Native Son and Vertigo there aint much between them Xanax and Wine pisses all over fast cars no doubt about that and Sometimes, well all I can say is at least the original version didn't have the goddamn cringeworthy awful falsetto lines "its you when I look in the mirror, and its you when I dig up the bone". Yep, gotta say it would have been a better album!
Yahweh said:
My favourite quote came from Bono when he was here in Edmonton.
"I just know that they are up on our music here and there is a strong thing right across Canada about our record and that they are a little faster then the Americans"
jick said:"Unfishined" - Bono.
"Unfinished" - Mullen.
"Disjointed" - Eno.
Cheers,
J
bathiu said:
REAAALYY?? and they didn't "finish" it for the special Digital BoxSet? When it would make it even more desireable to buy and download. Wow, such a great moment to "finish" POP, and they didn't do it... hmmm
I just have to say it: Find me an unfinished album with 12 songs and all of them longer than 4:30
Also, if no one noticed it... those strange opinions from the band about POP ended when the campaign promoting ATYCLB was finaly over.
Makes you think... -no comment-
ImOuttaControl said:
Why else would U2 have re-recorded IGWSHA, LNOE and Please for their single releases? If they would have been finished songs, then U2 would have released the album versions. They didn't, because they weren't able to finish these songs before the album came out.
It WOULD be unfinished if released in September. Just like HTDAAB if released in spring of 2004.U2, with its producers and engineers, was recording and mixing in two studios simultaneously. Workdays stretched to 14 and16 hours. But even at that stage, everything was subject to change -- including, as itturned out, the final deadline. "We have trouble finishing things," said the Edge, U2’sguitarist. The album, originally due last September as a pre-Christmas release, was finished in late December, with all-night recording sessions up to the last minute. It is to be released March 4.
bathiu said:
So it's only POP's songs that have "finished" single version of the songs?
I didn't know that, I also must have some illegal singles of Elevation, Walk On, Wild Horses... to name a few... because they also have a totaly changed versions of the songs... not just barely changed like IGWSHA (wich in fact is only a shorter "radio edit") and LNOE...
ImOuttaControl said:I think the only songs that weren't quite finished are [...] possibly WUDM.
...exactly, not to mention those chants (middle-eastern or from native-americans? ) in the background... there's alot of hard work on that album...I think it's pretty clear that while WUDM may not have been finished perhaps to the band's satisfaction, it definitely saw heaps of work - all of Van Diemen's Land is played backwards through the song and I believe rivergoat has isolated something like sixty other audio items hidden beneath the surface of the song. They spent a lot of time putting stuff in that song.
Axver said:
I think it's pretty clear that while WUDM may not have been finished perhaps to the band's satisfaction, it definitely saw heaps of work - all of Van Diemen's Land is played backwards through the song and I believe rivergoat has isolated something like sixty other audio items hidden beneath the surface of the song. They spent a lot of time putting stuff in that song.
miss becky said:
Whaaaa? Van Diemen's Land is in WUDM? Please explain.
I can't remember now where I read it, but I read somewhere that WUDM was originally a rocker. Full-on guitar. And I think it was Bono who had the idea to strip it all away and start over with minimal sound. And the band liked that new version so much, they went with it for the album.
*wishes she could remember the source of this*
discothequeLP said:
dig up the bone? try "pick up the phone." i don't know how Bono's voice could ever be cringeworthy. and the original "Sometimes" is totally missing something at the bridge, when Bono sings "Siiiing..." There's nothing there, it sounds empty. The final version is a masterpiece.