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Old 03-09-2005, 03:33 PM   #1
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Who out there has any firsthand quotes by members of the band dissing POP? I seem to recall quite a few after the initial "this is our best album yet" bs was over. What have the members of the band actually said about that album?
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"I remain convinced that history will vindicate PopMart. It's PopMart that stands the test of time to a much greater degree than Zoo TV."

-- Willie Williams, 2002

"There was a sense on the record company's part that this was going to be an enormous record for us in America. And when it wasn't, we took it in our stride."

-- Edge, on Pop

"If I was to choose my mode of transport, I'm not sure it would be a mirrorball lemon. I think I'll take the bus next time."

-- Larry, 2002

"It was a success, with the exception of the United States. It sold eight million, so it was by no means a failure."

-- Edge, on Pop

Those random ones from @U2.
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"Fucking Great Album"

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"Unfishined" - Bono.

"Unfinished" - Mullen.

"Disjointed" - Eno.

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Jick is correct, they all described as unfinished in a Q interview a few years ago. But unfinished does not equal bad!
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The relative quickness and rapidness of schedule for Zooropa worked to their advantage, but just didn't work so well for Pop I guess

They should've planned the tour AFTER the album felt finished for the band
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The relative quickness and rapidness of schedule for Zooropa worked to their advantage, but just didn't work so well for Pop I guess

They should've planned the tour AFTER the album felt finished for the band
U2 took a year to record POP. That makes it not as quick as Zooropa. But they should have given it another year like they did for HTDAAB.

Can you imagine if HTDAAB had Sometimes You Can't Make It and Native Son and Xanax&Wine from the demo versions instead of what we have now? That would be an awful unfinished album. Unfortunately that is what happened with POP and they already had booked the tour.

I think from now on, U2 will limit themselves to releasing albums exclusively on October November.

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Again, POP contains one of my top ten U2 songs of ALL time...GONE!!! It also contained PLEASE and WAKE UP DEAD MAN so it really wasn't that bad an album after all.
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Again, POP contains one of my top ten U2 songs of ALL time...GONE!!! It also contained PLEASE and WAKE UP DEAD MAN so it really wasn't that bad an album after all.
Don't make me start about how fucking brilliant Pop is.
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U2 took a year to record POP. That makes it not as quick as Zooropa. But they should have given it another year like they did for HTDAAB.

Can you imagine if HTDAAB had Sometimes You Can't Make It and Native Son and Xanax&Wine from the demo versions instead of what we have now? That would be an awful unfinished album. Unfortunately that is what happened with POP and they already had booked the tour.

I think from now on, U2 will limit themselves to releasing albums exclusively on October November.

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I misphrased a little bit, I meant the ense or urgency was present in both album productions. Zooropa with the tour and all of the craziness that was ZooTV, and Pop with the fact they needed to get the album done before PopMart started, and had to spend their usual rehearsing time finishing the album making the songs in the live setting suffer.

Also, the idea of putting the albums out in October/November is a good idea IMO because it would be in time for Grammys and holiday push, and us fans have to wait for like 10 months w/ anticipation
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"Unfishined" - Bono.

"Unfinished" - Mullen.

"Disjointed" - Eno.

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Can you imagine if HTDAAB had Sometimes You Can't Make It and Native Son and Xanax&Wine from the demo versions instead of what we have now? That would be an awful unfinished album. Unfortunately that is what happened with POP and they already had booked the tour.

I think from now on, U2 will limit themselves to releasing albums exclusively on October November.
Hey if U2 had released HTDAAB a year earlier it would have been a better album! Native Son and Vertigo there aint much between them Xanax and Wine pisses all over fast cars no doubt about that and Sometimes, well all I can say is at least the original version didn't have the goddamn cringeworthy awful falsetto lines "its you when I look in the mirror, and its you when I dig up the bone". Yep, gotta say it would have been a better album!
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Is this original version of Sometimes available anywhere? I'd like to give it a listen.
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In Q magazine date October or November of 2000, both Bono, Larry and Adam stated misgivings about the album and the tour. Does this mean that both were bad, no. Does it mean that the album didn't meet the bands standard, yes. And they all stated that they were rushed to finish it. In Larry's estimation SATS needed at least one more month to nail it down completely. Adam stated that the American audience wasn't buying what they were selling on the tour. Somewhat true in my estimation.

U2 albums are all great in their own way. Pop is great to those who:

1. Discovered U2 at that time
2. Enjoy the experimental side of U2
3. Love U2 no matter what

I like Pop, I listen to Pop it's just not one of my top 3 U2 albums. To say that the band has never slagged the album is not a correct statement. I don't think they hate the album, I just don't think it was everything it could've been. I don't either.
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Hey if U2 had released HTDAAB a year earlier it would have been a better album! Native Son and Vertigo there aint much between them Xanax and Wine pisses all over fast cars no doubt about that and Sometimes, well all I can say is at least the original version didn't have the goddamn cringeworthy awful falsetto lines "its you when I look in the mirror, and its you when I dig up the bone". Yep, gotta say it would have been a better album!


to each his own. i totally 100% disagree with everything you just said.



dig up the bone? try "pick up the phone." i don't know how Bono's voice could ever be cringeworthy. and the original "Sometimes" is totally missing something at the bridge, when Bono sings "Siiiing..." There's nothing there, it sounds empty. The final version is a masterpiece.


Xanax and Wine is disjointed and doesn't flow as well as Fast Cars does. It's very cool, but after every chorus the song has to stop and go back to the beginning for the intro gutiar part. it just doesn't flow.


Vertigo is alot better than Native Son. Vertigo is the finished version. Native Son is lacking something, especially the last chorus. Vertigo ends with a bang.
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Wow, discothequeLP, that's exactly how I feel about the unreleased songs. Like after listening to them I understand why they were scrapped.
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Hey if U2 had released HTDAAB a year earlier it would have been a better album! Native Son and Vertigo there aint much between them Xanax and Wine pisses all over fast cars no doubt about that and Sometimes, well all I can say is at least the original version didn't have the goddamn cringeworthy awful falsetto lines "its you when I look in the mirror, and its you when I dig up the bone". Yep, gotta say it would have been a better album!
Native Son's lyrics are cheesier than Vertigo, it is only musically better. Xanax and Wine, I agree with you, but it should not be an album track, just like Fast Cars. Original Sometimes sucks the big one, the horrible fat guitar sounds in the beginning, sounds like a goddam carnival. and Stevie L. is so right, it needed a chorus.
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I thought POP was about the same in quality that ATYCLB was myself and infact even though the band said that it was unfinished they were very complimentry of it most of the time.

My favourite quote came from Bono when he was here in Edmonton.

"I just know that they are up on our music here and there is a strong thing right across Canada about our record and that they are a little faster then the Americans"


I think that about says it all.
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My favourite quote came from Bono when he was here in Edmonton.

"I just know that they are up on our music here and there is a strong thing right across Canada about our record and that they are a little faster then the Americans"
I think the comparative failure of the album in the USA does have a lot to do with musical tastes there. For example the dance beats on the album would have gone over the heads of most Americans. That type of music hadn't taken off in the USA back then.
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"Unfishined" - Bono.

"Unfinished" - Mullen.

"Disjointed" - Eno.

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REAAALYY?? and they didn't "finish" it for the special Digital BoxSet? When it would make it even more desireable to buy and download. Wow, such a great moment to "finish" POP, and they didn't do it... hmmm

I just have to say it: Find me an unfinished album with 12 songs and all of them longer than 4:30

Also, if no one noticed it... those strange opinions from the band about POP ended when the campaign promoting ATYCLB was finaly over.
Makes you think... -no comment-
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