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Old 09-02-2002, 08:53 PM   #21
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Not again! Too much POP!

POP GOES THE WORLD

by Men Without Hats

Johnny play guitar
Jenny play base
ain't nobody gonna take their place
everybody tell me have you heard
Pop goes the world!

Johnny and Jenny get smart it seems
make more money on the movie screen
every little nest needs a bird
pop goes the world!

Every time I wonder
where the world went wrong
end up lying on my back goin ringy dingy ding dong
everytime I wonder if the world is right
end up in some disco dancing all night

Johnny play guitar
Jenny play base
name of the band is the human race
everybody tell me have you heard
Pop goes the world!
-Pop!-

Now could this topic please *pop* and disappear like the bubbles at the end of that video?
That is one of my favorite songs although I haven't heard it in a long time. Thanks for bringing back some memories.

Cheers,

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Old 09-02-2002, 08:55 PM   #22
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I'm on the side of "U2 are awesome, thank god for them"

The other side is full of complaining pieces of shit.

I second that.
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Old 09-02-2002, 10:01 PM   #23
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I will never understand the "pick a side" mentality. Why do there have to be 2 sides for U2 fans to pick from? Who are we to judge a "true fan" by what U2 album they like or don't like?

Why do those who don't like a certain album (POP or ATYCLB) have to endlessly explain why it was so bad? Why does it matter what the rest of us think?

Why do those who love a certain album (POP or ATYCLB) feel they have to explain to the haters why that particular album was so great? Again, why does it matter?

It's a collection of music for crying out loud, not the cure for cancer. Its not going to matter in the grand scheme of things whether or not you convinced someone that POP was good or ATYCLB was bad or vice versa.

One person's trash is another person's treasure (please don't assume I'm referring to either POP or ATYCLB in that phrase) and we all need to give this subject a rest.
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Old 09-02-2002, 10:04 PM   #24
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show me the way to go home
im tired and i want to go to bed
i had a little drink about an hour ago
and its gone...right....to....my....head

*shrugs*

i have nothing really left to say about this topic

and im not sure anyone else does

and yet i somehow suspect

many many many years from now

when were all dead and gone

and a new generation of u2 fans

who never saw them in concert

never knew them while they were alive

will still be having this debate

its enough to make you want to do this



and yes

i do love pop

but i do also recognize

that both the album

and the tour

has its flaws

just like every other u2 album/tour does

its a matter of personal taste probably



~she wore lemon~
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Among others, Mike Hedges produced Manic Street Preachers' "Everything must go", one of the best albums of the '90, and "This is my truth, tell me yours", its follow-up.

I don't know what to think about him remixing those POP songs, but I think Hedges' remixes will be more rock-oriented than the original songs...
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Old 09-03-2002, 07:07 AM   #26
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I adore ATYCLB, but I like POP as well, and IMO both 80s and 90s saw U2 produce some of their best work.
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I don't understand why some people here get so piqued when someone offers a critique of U2.

This is a discussion board. If you don't like discussion of U2's work, then don't come here. This board is DESIGNED so that people can share their thoughts about U2's albums, songs, etc.

That said, unrelenting negativism is annoying and I can understand how that becomes tiring. But, I don't see that here.

Maybe, there should be one section in Interference reserved only for those that just want to offer nothing but unvarnished praise of the band. Then, such people will never see anything hurtful to them. I think we should call it, "Happy to Go Blind": this board is reserved for those that only want to praise U2's greatness; no thoughtful commentary allowed, and criticism, no matter how minor, is prohibited! I am serious.

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That is one of my favorite songs although I haven't heard it in a long time. Thanks for bringing back some memories.

Cheers,

J
Mine too! I remember when I was a little kid, every time that came on MTV I'd be dancing around and singing to it. I think it was more of a kid song, my teenage cousins made fun of it. Remember that big goofy fake snowman on drums, and the fake Elvis and how he came down the big slide with his guitar? The little baby on keyboards? Jenny's ripped jeans and her base wasn't plugged in? What about the looks on the guy's face? The bubbles of course! We have that on videotape with a bunch of other old videos and I watched it just the other night!
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Old 09-03-2002, 11:55 AM   #29
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I don't understand why some people here get so piqued when someone offers a critique of U2.

Karl, I don't think it's a matter of someone not being able to critique something U2 does. It's more a matter that it turns into a big fight. It is the manner in which some things are discussed that causes the problems.

I know that not everyone is going to agree on everything, nor should they. However, it's a problem when things are said with the sole purpose of being antagonistic.

It is one thing to say "I like The Josua Tree better than Achtung Baby."

It is another thing to say "The Joshua Tree is clearly superior to Achtung Baby. If you disagree with me, you can F@ck off, because I am right and you are wrong."

Of course the second example is a clear exaggeration, however, that is the tone of some of the posts. That is how I perceive the attitude to be of some of the people involved with these threads.

Everyone is entitled to disagree and express that disagreement. However, it can be done in a more civil, polite way.
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Karl, I don't think it's a matter of someone not being able to critique something U2 does. It's more a matter that it turns into a big fight. It is the manner in which some things are discussed that causes the problems.

I know that not everyone is going to agree on everything, nor should they. However, it's a problem when things are said with the sole purpose of being antagonistic.

It is one thing to say "I like The Josua Tree better than Achtung Baby."

It is another thing to say "The Joshua Tree is clearly superior to Achtung Baby. If you disagree with me, you can F@ck off, because I am right and you are wrong."

Of course the second example is a clear exaggeration, however, that is the tone of some of the posts. That is how I perceive the attitude to be of some of the people involved with these threads.

Everyone is entitled to disagree and express that disagreement. However, it can be done in a more civil, polite way.
Great points Daisy.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and everyone's opinion is valid and important but when a certain subject ALWAYS causes an argument, what's the point of bringing it up again and again?

When it comes to the issue of POP, its usually not a critique or civil discussion that ensues...its usually either "POP sucks and you're stupid if you can't see that" or "POP is great and if you don't like it, you suck too." It turns into something really nasty and divides people.

Intelligent, civil discussions about U2 and their music

Nasty arguments over personal musical tastes
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The problem is that U2 has done so much, they are so many different things to so many different people, and all of them feel so passionately about what they claim as 'their' U2. But it's ALL OUR U2! We should just be glad that they have done so much that a wide variety of people call themselves fans.
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The problem is that U2 has done so much, they are so many different things to so many different people, and all of them feel so passionately about what they claim as 'their' U2. But it's ALL OUR U2! We should just be glad that they have done so much that a wide variety of people call themselves fans.
Very well put!

One of the things that I love most about U2 is their versatility. Each album sounds different from the last. I never know what to expect from them, and that's half the fun!
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Maybe, there should be one section in Interference reserved only for those that just want to offer nothing but unvarnished praise of the band. Then, such people will never see anything hurtful to them. I think we should call it, "Happy to Go Blind": this board is reserved for those that only want to praise U2's greatness; no thoughtful commentary allowed, and criticism, no matter how minor, is prohibited! I am serious.
great post!

as long as I get to moderate that forum I say "let's do it"
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great post!

as long as I get to moderate that forum I say "let's do it"
That is indeed a great idea! I'd definitely visit!
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That is indeed a great idea! I'd definitely visit!
we know.
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