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Old 11-27-2001, 02:30 AM   #41
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I expect some "elevating" to happen at 1/2 time, but I think a song like "Streets" (or as it would sound to us "Sweets" ) would be perfect for the show. If there is no more touring after Miami, I think there will be a good possiblity that U2 could play other songs. Why promote an album that you have already finished touring? Nonetheless, I'm glued to the tube that day.

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Old 11-27-2001, 02:31 AM   #42
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Although I don't think U2 is counsciously making music for the masses in all all honesty, would they really have left their experimental phase were it not for the commercial flop that POP was? Now I'm not saying that ATYCLB isn't a great album, but it is "back to basics".

by that logic i think it is unlikely they would have ever entered their 'experimental phase' in the first place. they would have coasted on joshua tree with some more in the 90's.

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Old 11-27-2001, 02:37 AM   #43
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by that logic i think it is unlikely they would have ever entered their 'experimental phase' in the first place. they would have coasted on joshua tree with some more in the 90's.

Then you can argue that entering the 90's they could afford to experiment whereas entering ATYCLB they couldn't.

Again, in the end I'm in for the music and that in itself is still great.

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Old 11-27-2001, 02:42 AM   #44
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In my opinion U2 are becoming a part of the very thing they mocked and fought against in POP and POPmart- commercialism. The only reason POPmart was, infact not pop, was the irony, the fact that everyone knew that despite doing trying their hardest to give the impression that they were only interested in making money, there were higher levels involved. I feel they are treading a very thin line here between trying to be big (which I think is great), and 'seeling out'.

The definition of seeling out, for me is as follows- when an artist tries to become popular on the terms of the masses and not their own. When what they are creating andf playing is dictated by what OTHERS think is good and not their own. Whether U2 are doing that, I dont know. But I am uncertain, and so are many others. Only time will tell, I guess.
Well said! That's exactly how I feel.
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Old 11-27-2001, 08:41 AM   #45
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by UCLAforU2:

"Come on, after sept 11th, its not like they had many other bands that could really fit the mood perfectly. U2 is the only band actively touring right now, they are the only band that has the political relevance to not come off as hokey. Its the only band that makes sense"

I agree with this 100%. The NFL were not looking for glitzy flash, they wanted something with some substance.

And as far as U2 playing the thing, it's another promo stop for them, like the Grammys or VMA's or countless other shows they've played on this year. This is not 1985, the old concept of "corporate" rock is dead. Bowie sells his tunes to everyone; and he's still great. Lenny Kravitz, STP, Blur, Who have all sold songs to car commercials. Even Radiohead are letting the winter olympics use one of their tunes as a theme song. Watch TV lately? you'll hear the Ramones, Weezer, Remy Zero, Green Day and others on countless programs. Hell, remember when the Stones had that guest spot on 90210? Exile is still a great record. Mr Sex Pistol himself, John Lydon, sang a Mountain Dew commercial. For Christs sake! Ex Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl had one of his tunes used as the theme song for ED on NBC. And would anyone really care if Aerosmith just played by themselves last year? Nobody would remember it, but since Britney and Nsync were there everyone remembers it (and it did suck). And if U2 being involved w/ teen pop is everyones concern, they've already done it, for the WGO charity record. I believe a lyric from Tool's "Hooker w/ A Penis" sums the modern music world perfectly "All you know about me is what I've sold you, Dumb fuck. I sold out long before you ever heard my name. I sold my soul to make a record, Dip shit, And you bought one. All you read and Wear or see and
Hear on TV Is a product Begging for your Fatass dirty Dollar So ... Shut up and Buy my new record Send more money Fuck you, buddy."

Sorry for the rant. Peace.


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MrBrau1 is right. U2 are as much the corporate rock whores as any other band. They are pleasant music to listen to and nothing more. Any expectations we have for them are absurd. That special bond you think you have with the music is really just a financial transaction between you and Bono.

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OK here's the setlist:
Elevation into a snippet of SBS with the lyrics changed to Sunday Super Sunday, followed by a dedication to Osama bin Laden, Surrender.
Bono then throws a football into the crowd, only much more awkwardly than the basketball from 6/6.
Adam wears a football helmet during the performance, Edge is surrounded by Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders and Larry tears down the goal post at the end of the set.
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Actually they will sing BD, then do Stuck with Bono trying to kick a field goal while Adam gets carried away by the 'cowboy cheerleaders' and Larrys' dog running rampant around the field peeing. Then they will be joined by No Doubt for 'whats going on', to which somebody has to call animal control to get the dog away from Gwen!

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to which somebody has to call animal control to get the dog away from Gwen!

You think they'll really have to pry Larry away from Gwen forcefully?




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to which somebody has to call animal control to get the dog away from Gwen!

You think they'll really have to pry Larry away from Gwen forcefully?


No Larry's dog (thats me)


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