powerhour24
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Agreed, it's Mercy reconstituted but with weaker lyrics. WAS is way better and I'm glad it was the one included on NLOTH.
Songs of Ascent - Part IV
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White as Snow is quite the underrated song, it contains lyrical richness and easily trumps Winter.
Edge is ambitious is he? I can't tell recently. His guitar work is dull. There's no loud and soft anymore. It's all in-your-face simple melodies. The only guitar texture comes form Lanois, I think. Someone on this board referred to that awful Pitchfork review that said the guitar melody for "Unknown Caller" was too similar to "Walk On" and I didn't want to admit it, but it's true. It's also true that NLOTH sounds too much like The Fly riff when played live.
Edge keeps peddling that atrocious "Get On Your Boots" guitar riff on that documentary. More recently, he says he wished he wrote Oasis' "Wonderwall". Oh, what little ambition that is to just be popular.
My theory is that things have really changed and The Edge may have become the most conservative member, which is a bad thing, given that all 4 members are more conservative than they used to be.
Also, need I remind you folks that the middle tracks that are so safe were constructed without Eno and Lanois and painstakingly so by The Edge before heading into the studio. Breathe is pretty good, though the bass should have been louder.
Danny Boy
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Not every movie gets an official soundtrack release, unfortunately. Don't Come Knocking is certainly one example.
If they are truly pushing Winter for a Best Original Song Oscar, then there should be some promo discs floating around pretty soon.
It will definitely be interesting to hear whether they finished the song.
Anyone looking forward to Brothers should rent the Danish film of the same name from which this was ripped off. It's a great film, but this Americanized version looks annoyingly dumbed down. I can't stand the Star Wars girl; she's supposed to be everyone's fantasy like Zoe Deschannel, but I find them both irritating.
I liked that guitar effect at the end of Winter and the sound of Bono's voice but I agree that it needs work and Eno commented on this, saying it needed tons of work but the band insisted on paying more attention to the potential singles.
Right because U2 has never used works of fiction for inspiration. I'm talking about something for which the UN assembled a panel to discuss and this hasn't happened for any fictional work in the UN's history. Its first 3 seasons show far greater realism and moral ambiguity about the challenges facing our world than any of Bono's lyrics in the 12 years. You have to go all the way back to "Please" for anything truthful. Bono just tells the world Israelis and Palestinians have to "lay down your guns" to create peace, but occupation and apartheid don't require active warfare. When the Palestinians stop using violence, the suffering continues -- as it has in Gaza the last 10 months -- and the Israelis get to ignore them and continue destroying their lives.
Eno knows much better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NOYOZzEu-4
didn't Mudfeld say earlier this year that he thought NLOTH was a really weak album, and then later admitted that he never actually listened to the whole thing?
You know there's a really ugly inside club attitude about a lot of you folks on this site. You love to gang up on people. Very petty. Why can't you just deal with what I say instead of descending into personal attacks just because you can't stand someone criticizing your band. You're the cowards.
I hadn't heard "Fez - Being Born" because I was saving it, but it wasn't that great. It's an attempt but the overall melody is too simple; the start sounds like a variation of The X-Files theme.
The band is trying on that album, but not nearly hard enough to make something great. It's not the cruel 4 that Pitchfork gave it, but it's not much better than a 7.
Bono and The Edge can make great music, but their instincts are ruined by the foolish and shallow ambition of being popular and "positive", rather than digging into their souls deeply and just trying to make great music.
Bono wanted it on ATYCLB; the rest of the band didn't.
I really take issue with your claim of him choosing the song just because its popular, rather than the fact it is an undeniably very good song, melodically and musically so. It is the simplicity of the song that makes it very clever - just 5 or 6 different chords creating such a memorable melody.
Tyagu_Anaykus
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well everything post 1993 U2, basically sucks to Muldfeld 
clipper699
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Take it easy. You'll feel better once the Thorazine kicks in.
BVS
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It's not that you criticize the band, it's that your criticisms don't make sense. They just simple don't. And they are usually filled with off tangent politics, sexism or flat out hate. And you try and pretend to know what the band is thinking all the time. You never answer the questions asked of you...
A coward is the one that can always hurl "the criticism"(as you call it) but never deal with it in return.
Mrs. Garrison
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Perhaps you are right here...but you have to admit you do kind of make it easy with your off the wall rants about Battlestar Gallactica and Israel and Palestine, and u2 being cowardly, and so on.
Seriously now, some of us really don't do politics (at least i don't, learned my lesson on that one a long time ago!) and we really don't want to read these outlandish statements in here that deal with political BS. Isn't there a political forum on this site somewhere?
I will say you are certainly welcome to your opinions, and we should all engage them with an open mind as i think most will and do. If they get a little bit off the beaten path then you will probably see some varying responses from the
i guess like they say, different strokes for different folks. Hey am i wrong for thinking that "Wonderwall" was a great song?
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Irvine511
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so you judge one's musical credibility based upon how much you agree with their political leanings?
you've also got just about the most blinkered view on the Israel/Palestine issue on here, so i'd argue that your black-and-white viewpoint on said issue bleeds well into your vicious opinions on everything and everyone -- other fans are idiots, fools, not real fans, you hate the people in Toronto because they're not as socialist as the people in Montreal ... things you don't like are stupid and dumbed-down, U2 are cowardly ... just look at the language you use to describe your opinions, like a petulant and angry 14 year old who's been sent to his room without supper, and then wonder why people react to you the way that you do.
mikal
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i apologize. i won't respond to your posts anymore unless they make sense. otherwise, i'll stay away.
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After a free gig at the site of the Berlin Wall, Bono and The Edge headed to the South of France for a 2 week songwriting session. "We've been playing really well on tour and getting better and better, and we need to distill whatever we have into some songs," says Bono. The band is still debating whether the next record will consist of songs from the NLOTH sessions - the unfinished album known as Songs of Ascent - or an entirely new set of tunes. Says Bono, "I would like to put out an album quickly, but we're only going to do it if it's great."
Sounds like Bono and Edge will have a look at what they got so far in those two weeks in France. I'm not getting the feeling SOA is out of the picture for 2010, just that they are not sure exactly what it will consist of at this point. There's plenty of time for that in between the end of US leg 1 and the start of US leg 2...technically we could be looking at another future album potentially: SOA, Rubin songs and these *x* songs started during 360 tour.
Sounds like Bono and Edge will have a look at what they got so far in those two weeks in France. I'm not getting the feeling SOA is out of the picture for 2010, just that they are not sure exactly what it will consist of at this point. There's plenty of time for that in between the end of US leg 1 and the start of US leg 2...technically we could be looking at another future album potentially: SOA, Rubin songs and these *x* songs started during 360 tour.
popacrobat
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If they feel they need a big hit to go with SOA they could possibly revisit some of the Rubin songs or something and add one or two to SOA, even if it doesn't fit in with the album. I'd prefer one or two odd-ball radio-friendly tracks to go with the rest of the album if it meant we received an album in 2010. Plus, sometimes those catchy-pop songs can be pretty good. I've got nothing wrong with it when they want to write a few of those.
No thanks. I feel like the reason NLOTH was not an amazing record is because there were some last-minute attempt at a big hit songs; and having those mixed in with some experimental gems, really made the album feel disjointed and incoherent. I'd rather they use the material they have (because it probably is the more experimental stuff that wasn't used on NLOTH and I bet it fits together nicely as an album - all speculation of course) rather than write up some hurried "Crazy Tonight/Crumbs From Your Table/SYCMIOYO/Original of the Species/Stand Up Comedy" re-hash or another "Vertigo/GOYB" style song.
Unless they are writing songs in a Zooropa-style way where they really want to capture the spirit of a new direction and experimentation and see what they can come up with within just a few months time, I think I'd rather hear what they have in the bag already.
To me, this recent song-writing news just sounds like they're second-guessing themselves and I think that's where they've been going wrong lately. I just feel like the harder they try to make big hit songs, the more they won't succeed in doing so. Too much focus on being the biggest band, when they already are; no need to prove something we already know is true.
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popacrobat
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So you'd rather wait another three years rather than another six months? My point being, they aren't going to simply release what they have in the bag. They want to have a couple of hits in there somewhere I'm sure. If they think SOA is going to be even more "alienating" to the public then they likely won't release it.
Zoocoustic
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Honestly: does anyone really think we're going to get another album before, say, 2012?
This is U2 we are talking about.
This is U2 we are talking about.
Niceman
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Yes, I do: 2010.
BVS
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Yes... When has U2 ever had such a large break in a tour?
They almost have to in order to keep this tour relevant.
They seem disappointed, so we might get an album purely out of desperation.
They've been talking about since before NLOTH was released...
And this is the first time we've actually had talks about an new album coming sooner rather than later that actually has titles to go with it.
So all of these things are out of the ordinary for U2...
So if you do the math it = good news for fans.
BVS
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This makes me sad
I hope this doesn't drive U2 to put out a easy record just to boost sales? This doesn't seem like them
I don't really think this either, but desperation can be inspiration in a positive way too sometimes... and if they don't have time to overcook this can be good.
RavenBlue
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If they judge their success only on chart hits then sure.. NLOTH is a flop to them. But to me, NLOTH is so much more.. it came to me at a time when I really needed it and was a guiding lifeline that helped me through one of the most difficult times of my life. Maybe they need to look more at personal impact than the charts.. besides.. what are the charts full of these days anyway... mostly crap.
Yeah and considering the economic decline... people rather get it free online and save the money for something else...
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