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Old 08-15-2002, 05:21 PM   #21
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Even though it won't happen, here's what I'd like to see, and I believe it's quite reasonable:

1. The Fly
2. Mysterious Ways
3. Until The End Of The World
4. One
5. Whose Gonna Ride....
6. Even Better Than The Real Thing
7. Numb
8. Lemon
9. Stay
10. Hold Me Thrill Me.....
11. Miss Sarejevo
12. Staring At The Sun
13. Gone
14. If God Will...
15. Please
16. Hands That Built America
17. Electrical Storm

See, you take out 'Disco' and 'Last Night' and everything becomes sooo much better!
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Your estimated tracklist might as well be called The Singles 91-97.

I say you should take off "who's gonna ride your wild horses" (I never cared for the single version and that's what would be included) and this rumored-remix of "gone". I love the song, yes, but I'd like to see "until the end of the world" on there.

I also hope "Last Night On Earth" is included on the disc. Rumors, rumors, rumors.

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I dunno, seems strange that they really only include songs from 3 albums compared to the 6 that featured on the 1st best-of. In that regard, and the fact that ATYCLB was released in 2000, I think they will include it. Although, saying that, it is a bit soon for it to make the best-of, I dunno!
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I dunno, seems strange that they really only include songs from 3 albums compared to the 6 that featured on the 1st best-of. In that regard, and the fact that ATYCLB was released in 2000, I think they will include it. Although, saying that, it is a bit soon for it to make the best-of, I dunno!
Yeah, they only released 3 albums in the 90's, so it almost seems like it's a Best of 91-97 album, with the exception of the new songs from 2002 they're working on. Why is "Hands That Built America" being listed on it too, isn't that going to be on a movie soundtrack?
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Yeah, they only released 3 albums in the 90's, so it almost seems like it's a Best of 91-97 album, with the exception of the new songs from 2002 they're working on. Why is "Hands That Built America" being listed on it too, isn't that going to be on a movie soundtrack?
I think 2000 begins a new era for them.

Everything 2000 and forward is in a different category, a different Best Of.

If they included that material in the 90-00, then they would have to cut out some integral songs from that peroid.

Although they could lose IGWSHA and I would be happy.

As far as the 2 new songs, thats a good deal as a bonus to us.
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yeah, 2000 marked the beginning of a new era for them. let's face it, they didn't release nearly as many albums in the 90's as they did in the 80's. it seems most bands, as they get more popular, older, etc. don't release albums as often. for example, you have prince, who would release an album every year. now, he hardly releases anything (bad example, i know). lots of people used to release stuff almost every year as well, and now for them it's every 2-3 years. i guess it's cuz instead of needing 9-10 tracks on an album, now you need 13+ for it to be considered a real album.

anyway, i too hope igwsha doesn't make it onto the disc. this would be kinda nice...

1. even better than the real thing
2. one
3. mysterious ways
4. the fly
5. discotheque
6. last night on earth
7. staring at the sun
8. please
9. numb
10. lemon
11. stay
12. hold me, thrill me, kiss me, kill me
13. miss sarajevo
14. who's gonna ride your wild horses
15. until the end of the world
16. the hands that built america
17. the electrical storm
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I dunno, seems strange that they really only include songs from 3 albums compared to the 6 that featured on the 1st best-of. In that regard, and the fact that ATYCLB was released in 2000, I think they will include it. Although, saying that, it is a bit soon for it to make the best-of, I dunno!
I do agree in principle that they are drawing from fewer albums for this best of. However, when you stop and consider that Boy and October each only had 1 track represented on the best of 1980-90 that means that the vast majority of the material was pulled from 4 albums.

When you look at the nineties period you have 3 albums for the majority of material plus Miss Sarajevo and HMTMKMKM. Add the 2 new tracks and I don't think the difference is that great.

I don't know, just my humble opinion.

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I do agree in principle that they are drawing from fewer albums for this best of. However, when you stop and consider that Boy and October each only had 1 track represented on the best of 1980-90 that means that the vast majority of the material was pulled from 4 albums.

When you look at the nineties period you have 3 albums for the majority of material plus Miss Sarajevo and HMTMKMKM. Add the 2 new tracks and I don't think the difference is that great.

I don't know, just my humble opinion.

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Not just a humble opinion, but a valid one. I agree completely. U2 have released so much in the way of side projects in the 90s that they may have actually been more active than the 80s, but I'd have to check it out to back that theory up. Good point, also, about them not releasing much from certain albums on the first best of.
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Boy and October each only had 1 track represented on the best of 1980-90
yeah...

boy: 1
october: 1
war: 2
the unforgettable fire: 3
the joshua tree: 3
rattle and hum: 4
(plus the sweetest thing)

whereas looking at (possible) stuff for 90-00 (i pretty much tallied the number of songs everyone's guessing, so it won't add up to 15)...

achtung baby: 6
zooropa: 4
pop: 5
(plus hmtmkmkm and miss sarajevo)

looking at 80-90, imo only the latter three albums were fairly represented on it. i mean, rattle and hum has more songs featured on it than the joshua tree which sold much more...
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It would be nice if the Best Of is only a 90's set but it is kind of odd to have 2 new tracks on it if it is. 1991-1997 plus 2002? I know that ATYCLB was the start of a new period for U2 so it makes more sense to have that material separate from the 90's stuff, but wasn't The Unforgettable Fire the start of something new for U2 as well? It was a departure from the 1st 3 albums yet it is on the 1st best of along side those tracks. Oh well....I'm glad if it will only be 90's stuff. Artistically, I think it is the wiser choice. 15 great 90's tracks and 2 new songs isn't a bad thing. Here's my guess sans ATYCLB.

1 Electrical Storm
2 Even Better Than....
3 Staring At The Sun
4 Lemon
5 Mysterious Ways
6 If God Will Send....(remix)
7 Stay
8 Until The End Of The World
9 Last Night On Earth (remix)
10 Gone (remix)
11 Hold Me Thrill Me....
12 The Fly
13 Discotheque
14 Miss Sarajevo
15 Please (remix)
16 One
17 The Hands That Built America

If it's a 90's Best of I think Until The End & Gone will definitely be on there. I'd guess that they are 2 of the Band's faves from the 90's....definitely in concert.
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does anyone know if the band is going to include a b-sides album like they did with the first one? I could totally see Sarajevo and Hold Me Thrill Me on there along with their cover of Paint It Black, Two Shots of Happy and possibly some stuff from the Million Dollar Hotel [like The Ground Beneath Her Feet]
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Yeah there is gonna be B-sides to the album. HMTMKMKM will most probably be on there i reckon!
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Just out of curiosity...

I know what you guys are saying with 2000 starting a new chapter of sorts for these guys, so that may be why their songs from ATYCLB aren't on there, which would make sense, but a couple of you mentioned that you're glad that stuff isn't on there-just wondering why?

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I know what you guys are saying with 2000 starting a new chapter of sorts for these guys, so that may be why their songs from ATYCLB aren't on there, which would make sense, but a couple of you mentioned that you're glad that stuff isn't on there-just wondering why?
for me, it's mainly because the sound for ab-zooropa-passengers-pop is so different from atyclb. i just couldn't picture hearing a song like numb, then hearing beautiful day. i think U2's next couple albums will probably be in the vein of atyclb (maybe not as poppy, but i don't think they'll make another zooropa) so it will fit better with the third greatest hits.

also, i too think it's kinda weird to have the 90-00 and then add two new tracks to it. i mean, for the 80-90, it did have a new song, but it was just a remake of an 80's b-side, so it still fit.
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Hello,

Everybody has to remember though that this is just from one article and apparently one that is just relying on the most common news that is on the Internet. Other sources have said differently.
First, HMTMKMKM and Miss Sarajevo will be on the main disc, as reported by the initial press release (with Launch being one of the first to report it). It also said that the disc will contain 17 tracks and two new songs (one of which is thus Electrical Storm).
Furthermore, as posted on Zootopia (with an apparent source of the French site http://www.u2achtung.com), it appears that there are ATYCLB-tracks on it. Three to be precise.
Maybe this is also just a rumour, but until the final tracklist is known, nothing is for sure.

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In addition to what Khanada Rhodes said.. if they want to include all 4 singles from ATYCLB, which they probably would, that means leaving off a lot of great songs from the 90s, and that pisses moi off. Especially because the 90s get ignored and dissed by critics and public enough in the wake of U2's messianic return in the form of ATYCLB.

I personally would love for atyclb not to be included, however I would also point out that this source is not necessarily the most valid. I'm still waiting for an official word, especially since the opposite has been reported in many places.

And also, for those who think hmtmkmkm is going to be on the b-sides disc... sorry, but you are wrong. seriously, i would wager considerable amounts of money on this fact, due mainly to the facts that a)it was their third biggest hit of the 90s as someone pointed out and b)it has its own single on which it is the a-side... making it clearly not a b-side. Miss Sarejevo has its own single, too.. and I hope to God it's own the main disc, simply because it's one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded and definately deserves a place there.
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I agree with Michael that Gone should be included and that a remixed version like the Elevation Tour would definitely be welcome. I feel Gone could replace either Last Night On Earth or If God Will Send His Angels. Also, I agree with others about the inclusion of Until The End Of The World. It could replace Who’s Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses. The Best Of 1980-1990 included 2 non-singles Bad and October so I could see U2 doing something similar with this one too by bringing in Gone and Until The End Of The World. Some have expressed an objection to Miss Sarajevo. I believe it may have been a top 10 or 20 hit in the UK and elsewhere in Europe. I can’t see Hands That Built America being on it since it was written for the Gangs Of New York soundtrack and I believe it will be released on it. I wouldn’t mind if they put on the Perfecto Mix of Lemon. I believe it reached number 1 on the US dance chart. I’m interested hearing other people’s track list order and seeing how the flow of it could be best achieved.

1. The Fly
2. Mysterious Ways
3. Until The End Of The World
4. Last Night On Earth (Single version)
5. Stay
6. Numb
7. Lemon (Perfecto Mix)
8. Discotheque
9. HMTMKMKM
10. Even Better Than The Real Thing
11. Electric Storm
12. New Song (new version of Salome or North And South Of The River or ?)
13. Staring At The Sun
14. Gone (Rumored Remix like the Elevation Tour version)
15. Miss Sarajevo
16. Please (Single Mix)
17. One
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In addition to what Khanada Rhodes said.. if they want to include all 4 singles from ATYCLB, which they probably would, that means leaving off a lot of great songs from the 90s, and that pisses moi off. Especially because the 90s get ignored and dissed by critics and public enough in the wake of U2's messianic return in the form of ATYCLB.

I personally would love for atyclb not to be included, however I would also point out that this source is not necessarily the most valid. I'm still waiting for an official word, especially since the opposite has been reported in many places.

And also, for those who think hmtmkmkm is going to be on the b-sides disc... sorry, but you are wrong. seriously, i would wager considerable amounts of money on this fact, due mainly to the facts that a)it was their third biggest hit of the 90s as someone pointed out and b)it has its own single on which it is the a-side... making it clearly not a b-side. Miss Sarejevo has its own single, too.. and I hope to God it's own the main disc, simply because it's one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded and definately deserves a place there.

I agree with SkeeK & Khanda
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here's a question:

if you guys are so intent and excited that this album be a best of prior to ATYCLB, then why are you so accepting of new songs being on there? it just doesn't make sense. skip ATYCLB and put on two new tracks 2002 era?

i don't care waht they do. i have it all already anyway. what order they chose is cool with me.
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I am going to be very happy no matter what the track list is. I like the idea that All That... should be excluded from this Best Of. I also like the idea of a remixed Gone. I always thought that song was going to be a single when Pop came out. I think a remixed version of it will definetly spark the possibility of a 3rd single off this Best Of. I also look forward to 2 new tracks (pretty much a fact now) in this collection.

I am a huge fan of the first Best Of/B-Sides collection. I think U2 are really going out of their way more so on this next Best Of to give us fans (the long time geeks) something "new" in a package that is designed to introduce newer fans to their 90's sound. I like that. It seems that there will truely be something "new" for everyone here. They did this the first time around with the Sweetest Thing remix. This time around we are getting 2 new tracks and a new remix (or 2?). There is definetly a "please" everyone philosophy going into this Best Of.
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