So Cruel: Worst U2 Song Ever!!! - Page 2

dudeman · 05-19-2005, 12:13 PM

i can see where 'so cruel' could be considered the 'heart' of the album. i see that album as a story, with lots and lots of fallout from the desintegration of a relationship. each of the songs describes a bit of the fallout ('the fly' = debauchery and temptation, 'acrobat' = anger and frustration, etc...). i can see 'so cruel' as the one song on the album not about the fallout, but directly about the unravelling relationship. this song depicts the argument, and everything spins out from that focus...

sniggirb · 05-19-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by dudeman
this stinks - who farted?

Sorry, couldn't hold it in haha. But I have to disagree, So Cruel is one of my favs.

**Headache in a Suitcase** · 05-19-2005, 12:28 PM

i'm sorry, i didn't realize babyface was actually a wang chung song.

Mullen4Prez · 05-19-2005, 12:36 PM

You DISGUST me!!!!

BEVERLY56 · 05-19-2005, 12:36 PM

You're entitled to your wrong opinion! (just kidding!) I like the song personally.

The OOTS · 05-19-2005, 12:45 PM

It's very poetic and I think it fits great in the middle of AB.
Not the worst by any means.

prisz25 · 05-19-2005, 01:01 PM

i Disagree.. the song is beautiful!! the only part i do not like is the "they pass through you like a ghost"part its really cheesy but i just cringe at that part and enjoy the beauty of the rest of the song!

namkcuR · 05-19-2005, 01:40 PM

You're kidding about the lyrics, right? "Between the horses of love and lust we are trampled underfoot' is one of the greatest lyrics Bono has ever written. It's a gorgeous song.

super fly guy · 05-19-2005, 01:41 PM

I think its one of the worst songs they have ever done, very boring indeed!

xana dew · 05-19-2005, 02:13 PM

It's brilliant in every regard. The lyrics are dark and beautifully poetic and the music builds to a subtle yet powerful climax. Check Edge's guitar as the song progresses. Anyone who says this song is the worst on the album has been huffing Windex. Try "Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses" for that dubious honor. That song's a mess.

miss becky · 05-19-2005, 02:19 PM

So Cruel is an amazing song. One of U2's most dark, bitter, depressing songs. Beautiful lyrics: "Between the horses of love and lust/We are trampled underfoot" ranks up there with the best lines ever.

starsgoblue · 05-19-2005, 02:20 PM

I never thought I'd see the day where Miss Becky is arguing for an Achtung Baby era song.

edge3 · 05-19-2005, 02:23 PM

So Cruel = A song of great beauty & lyrical depth - simple as that.

Achtung Baby wouldn't be the same without it & it brillantly contrasts with the full on guitar work from the edge on The Fly, which follows.

New Years Day is the worst U2 song ever - U2 at their po-faced hectoring worst.

ps - sorry to all NYD fans.

XHendrix24 · 05-19-2005, 02:28 PM

Blahblahblah.

It's a subpar song on a pretty good album. However, I wouldn't say that it's the band's WORST song.

miss becky · 05-19-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by starsgoblue
I never thought I'd see the day where Miss Becky is arguing for an Achtung Baby era song.

LOL yeah, what is this world coming to?

Bono's shades · 05-19-2005, 02:34 PM

I can't believe some of you are hearing the same song I'm hearing. Did you get a defective copy of AB or something? I still remember hearing it for the first time and thinking those were some of the best lyrics Bono ever wrote.

BANZAI · 05-19-2005, 02:35 PM

Not a bad song, but definitely the worst song from AB

I'm Ready · 05-19-2005, 02:52 PM

this is my least favrite song on AB but i appreciate the lyrics

bono_man2002 · 05-19-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Aardvark747
Should've been given an acoustic try-out on ZooTV if you ask me.

They Did!, I've mp3s to prove it.
And I think they tried it full band atleast once.....

PopMartian33107 · 05-19-2005, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by Bono's shades
I can't believe some of you are hearing the same song I'm hearing. Did you get a defective copy of AB or something? I still remember hearing it for the first time and thinking those were some of the best lyrics Bono ever wrote.

Like I said, I mostly dislike the lyrics, even though some lines in particular do stand out as amazing, but that's not the problem for me anyway.

What sticks out for me in a good song is the melody, not the lyrics. I'll remember a catching melody long after I've forgotten the lyrics. That's why I dislike So Cruel so much- no hook, no real build-up, etc. Just my opinion!

05-19-2005, 12:13 PM	#21
dudeman Refugee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,235 Local Time: 01:25 PM	i can see where 'so cruel' could be considered the 'heart' of the album. i see that album as a story, with lots and lots of fallout from the desintegration of a relationship. each of the songs describes a bit of the fallout ('the fly' = debauchery and temptation, 'acrobat' = anger and frustration, etc...). i can see 'so cruel' as the one song on the album not about the fallout, but directly about the unravelling relationship. this song depicts the argument, and everything spins out from that focus... __________________

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05-19-2005, 12:28 PM	#23
Headache in a Suitcase Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: With the other morally corrupt bootlicking rubes. Posts: 75,168 Local Time: 01:25 PM	i'm sorry, i didn't realize babyface was actually a wang chung song.

05-19-2005, 12:36 PM	#24
Mullen4Prez Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Great Beyond// Posts: 8,637 Local Time: 06:25 PM	You DISGUST me!!!!

05-19-2005, 12:36 PM	#25
BEVERLY56 Refugee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto 2, Vegas Posts: 1,993 Local Time: 02:25 PM	You're entitled to your wrong opinion! (just kidding!) I like the song personally.

05-19-2005, 12:45 PM	#26
The OOTS Refugee Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Everything in its right place. Posts: 1,470 Local Time: 11:25 AM	It's very poetic and I think it fits great in the middle of AB. Not the worst by any means.

05-19-2005, 01:01 PM	#27
prisz25 War Child Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MIAMI!! Posts: 785 Local Time: 02:25 PM	i Disagree.. the song is beautiful!! the only part i do not like is the "they pass through you like a ghost"part its really cheesy but i just cringe at that part and enjoy the beauty of the rest of the song!

05-19-2005, 01:40 PM	#28
namkcuR ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 10,770 Local Time: 02:25 PM	You're kidding about the lyrics, right? "Between the horses of love and lust we are trampled underfoot' is one of the greatest lyrics Bono has ever written. It's a gorgeous song.

05-19-2005, 01:41 PM	#29
super fly guy New Yorker Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dundee,scotland Posts: 2,579 Local Time: 06:25 PM	I think its one of the worst songs they have ever done, very boring indeed!

05-19-2005, 02:13 PM	#30
xana dew The Fly Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 275 Local Time: 02:25 PM	It's brilliant in every regard. The lyrics are dark and beautifully poetic and the music builds to a subtle yet powerful climax. Check Edge's guitar as the song progresses. Anyone who says this song is the worst on the album has been huffing Windex. Try "Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses" for that dubious honor. That song's a mess.

05-19-2005, 02:19 PM	#31
miss becky Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 6,107 Local Time: 02:25 PM	So Cruel is an amazing song. One of U2's most dark, bitter, depressing songs. Beautiful lyrics: "Between the horses of love and lust/We are trampled underfoot" ranks up there with the best lines ever.

05-19-2005, 02:20 PM	#32
starsgoblue Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Looking for direction to perfection Posts: 17,828 Local Time: 01:25 PM	I never thought I'd see the day where Miss Becky is arguing for an Achtung Baby era song.

05-19-2005, 02:23 PM	#33
edge3 Refugee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,385 Local Time: 06:25 PM	So Cruel = A song of great beauty & lyrical depth - simple as that. Achtung Baby wouldn't be the same without it & it brillantly contrasts with the full on guitar work from the edge on The Fly, which follows. New Years Day is the worst U2 song ever - U2 at their po-faced hectoring worst. ps - sorry to all NYD fans.

05-19-2005, 02:28 PM	#34
XHendrix24 Refugee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,496 Local Time: 02:25 PM	Blahblahblah. It's a subpar song on a pretty good album. However, I wouldn't say that it's the band's WORST song.

05-19-2005, 02:34 PM	#36
Bono's shades Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The back of beyond Posts: 5,047 Local Time: 01:25 PM	I can't believe some of you are hearing the same song I'm hearing. Did you get a defective copy of AB or something? I still remember hearing it for the first time and thinking those were some of the best lyrics Bono ever wrote.

05-19-2005, 02:35 PM	#37
BANZAI War Child Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 575 Local Time: 07:25 PM	Not a bad song, but definitely the worst song from AB

05-19-2005, 02:52 PM	#38
I'm Ready War Child Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 987 Local Time: 01:25 PM	this is my least favrite song on AB but i appreciate the lyrics