Wow, only 68 votes compared to 80+. Where is everyone?
Getting back the Live Survivor, I thought I would post a list of songs that I intend to exclude from the tournament for discussion. I imagine such choices will be contentious, and in the end I and whoever else helps out running the show will have to unilaterally make some decisions, but if we could reach some consensus that would be good.
So the songs cut, in chronological order of performance:
1. Pre-Boy songs known to have been played live but for which we have no recording. The two I'm thinking of here are Concentration Cramp and In Your Hand (which may just be Boy/Girl anyway).
2. Early covers: while it is likely that covers such as Glad To See You Go were done 13+ times, we don't have any confirmation of that. Known performances are essential.
3. All Along The Watchtower qualifying: It is no secret that the 1981 and 1987 one-offs will lose to the Lovetown version in any qualifying round, so let's save two days. In any case, although just one performance is good enough for an original U2 song, a cover has to be a bit more frequent - 13+ performances is the cutoff, and only the Lovetown version has been done 13+ times.
4. Where The Streets Have No Name: it is beyond obviously the winner. Including it makes the tournament pointless. It's like having a soccer goal shoot-out with 100 three year olds and Pele.
5. One: obvious winner in Streets' absence.
6. Peace On Earth: This has been an ongoing problem on U2VT, as a matter of fact. U2 never did a full band version of this song. It was normally just a snippeted intro to Walk On. However, on some occasions, Bono really dragged it out. My criteria for song inclusion is that the song has to have been performed
independently of any other. I do not believe Peace On Earth was ever played independently. Thus it is out.
6.1 There is the "Wake Up Dead Man" objection. It was similarly not played in full. However, it has been done in more contexts and I do not believe its use in a setlist in its stripped down style is inherently dependent on the presence of any other particular song.
7. Any cover with less than 13 performances: I was going to make this 15 performances, as that's a round number and any cover reaching that many performances must have gained significance in at least one tour's context. However, I noticed that the recent and well known Saints Are Coming has only 13 performances, so I lowered the limit to include it - there are no other covers on 13 or 14 performances.
8. Gimmicky covers with 13+ performances: We really don't need the competition littered with these. Sure, Edge's karaoke or Larry singing Tequila Sunrise may have been a bit of a laugh, but it's not going to win anything and we needn't drag out the tournament any more. Raising the required play count to avoid this issue will also exclude most genuine covers, including very well known ones like Helter Skelter.
I think that's all. For the record, I am somewhat reconsidering excluding One. Streets is absolutely gone though. It is the winner by default. So I guess all this tournament is doing is finding second place.
On a different note, we need to add a song to the list: The Silver Lining, to Pre-Boy. I know it's an early 11 O'clock Tick Tock, but they're different songs - and we're doing Trevor and Touch anyway.