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Old 09-28-2002, 10:00 PM   #1
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"Red Hill Mining Town" is the best track on The Joshua Tree

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Re: "Red Hill Mining Town" is the best track on The Joshua Tree

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RHMT has some great lyrics...these are some faves of mine...

"We're wounded by fear
Injured in doubt,
I can lose myself
You I can't live without"


I love that song...I actually have not listened to it in quite sometime...I think I'm going to do that now.
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I agree

I love this song since I┤ve heard it and I think it┤s the best in Joshua┤s tree album
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could be, but it gets heavily challenged by One Tree Hill, Where The Streets Have No Name, With Or Without You, I Still Haven't Found...
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Absolutely!!
I wish it would get played on the radio, I've never heard it played on the radio in Oz
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could be, but it gets heavily challenged by One Tree Hill, Where The Streets Have No Name, With Or Without You, I Still Haven't Found...
Aren't you forgetting 'Running To Stand Still'? Possibly the best song on the album.

You know - one thing that never ceases to amaze me: that it is even possible to have an album with a song such as 'With or Without You' on it, and still have no definitive best song. How is that possible? Well, it's rather simple. Include a whole album full of other-wordly songs, and let God decide. At least that seemed to be U2's philosophy on The Joshua Tree.

People say Achtung Baby is their best album, but the only song that even comes close to the other-worldly component found on JT is 'One'. Even if you polled only the people who list AB as a favourite, *most* of them would say 'One' is the clear-cut best song on that album. If you polled all U2 fans as to which songs on Achtung Baby are other-worldly classics, again 'One' would be the definitive and mostly likely *only* pick. On JT, however, you would get several responses: 'Streets'; 'Still Haven't Found'; 'With or Without You' being the most common picks. It's kind of scary that there are other songs on the album that are just as good. That's one of the major differences between Achtung Baby and The Joshua Tree. Both masterpieces, but one left the Earth without actually leaving it at all, while the other dove right in, burrowing itself inside the arteries of the human heart. Just my opinion, though.
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If only the Dublin boys would release the long lost RHMT video......
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Running to Stand Still is the best song on The Joshua Tree.
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"running to stand still" is easily among the best songs ever written by anyone, seems that maybe it should receive underrated status since the band has so foolishly ignored it during the last two tours
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Aren't you forgetting 'Running To Stand Still'? Possibly the best song on the album.

Yes, forget best describes what happened over there.
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Yes, forget best describes what happened over there.
Please elaborate. I don't follow. By "over there," are you talking about the part of Dublin that Bono wrote the song about? In which case, I assume you are being sarcastic. However, I do not want to make any assumptions, as I don't know what you are alluding to. Fill me in!
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Red Hill Mining Town is the the best vocally song on JT.
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Red Hill Mining Town is the the best vocally song on JT.
While that may be true, I'm still not convinced. The vocals on 'I Still Haven't Found' also showcase Bono at the top of his register, while also holding the notes with full open voice. It's like he's shouting out of a window in a tower, for the whole country to hear him. It's a vocal that just kind of grabs you, no matter where you are and how you are listening - whether it be on the radio, on your discman, or at home on the stereo.

Of course, the vocals on 'With or Without You' are stunning as well. That's one of the only songs that I feel Bono truly out-did himself ('Angel of Harlem' being another). The way he goes from lower to mid, to high range is amazing. It's like his voice dances in those songs.
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I always used to skip over Red Hill Mining Town while listening to JT straight through...But listening to it by itself I actually really began to like it. It doesn't seem to fit the rest of the mood of JT imo...While it's a good song, my JT favorite would have to be One Tree Hill.
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While that may be true, I'm still not convinced. The vocals on 'I Still Haven't Found' also showcase Bono at the top of his register, while also holding the notes with full open voice. It's like he's shouting out of a window in a tower, for the whole country to hear him. It's a vocal that just kind of grabs you, no matter where you are and how you are listening - whether it be on the radio, on your discman, or at home on the stereo.

Of course, the vocals on 'With or Without You' are stunning as well. That's one of the only songs that I feel Bono truly out-did himself ('Angel of Harlem' being another). The way he goes from lower to mid, to high range is amazing. It's like his voice dances in those songs.
But RHMT was never performed live because Bono couldn't get his voice sound like in the 'I'm hanging on...' part on stage. Whereas I'm Still Haven't Found could be played live.
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But RHMT was never performed live because Bono couldn't get his voice sound like in the 'I'm hanging on...' part on stage. Whereas I'm Still Haven't Found could be played live.
While it is true that they couldn't play RHMT live because of the high notes (as they were on the album), I believe they never really altered the song enough to do so. If you notice, 'I Still Haven't Found' has been changed considerably from the studio version - and is performed at a much lower key. I don' think Bono has ever been able to perform it live as he did on The Joshua Tree - and that's even during The Joshua Tree era. U2 have done this with a lot of songs, actually. Remember how no one thought he could hit the notes in 'Kite' live? Well, he didn't have to, because they just dropped the key. 'Pride' is another obvious one.
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While it is true that they couldn't play RHMT live because of the high notes (as they were on the album), I believe they never really altered the song enough to do so. If you notice, 'I Still Haven't Found' has been changed considerably from the studio version - and is performed at a much lower key. I don' think Bono has ever been able to perform it live as he did on The Joshua Tree - and that's even during The Joshua Tree era. U2 have done this with a lot of songs, actually. Remember how no one thought he could hit the notes in 'Kite' live? Well, he didn't have to, because they just dropped the key. 'Pride' is another obvious one.
But the album version of RHMT is nevertheless one of the best - if not THE - best vocal song on JT - you admitted it.
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when i first bought the cd , Red Hill Minning Town , was and still is one of my favourites by U2 , great voice , so different , but after all , Jushua Tree is U2's best work , need no words .





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Aren't you forgetting 'Running To Stand Still'? Possibly the best song on the album.

You know - one thing that never ceases to amaze me: that it is even possible to have an album with a song such as 'With or Without You' on it, and still have no definitive best song. How is that possible? Well, it's rather simple. Include a whole album full of other-wordly songs, and let God decide. At least that seemed to be U2's philosophy on The Joshua Tree.

People say Achtung Baby is their best album, but the only song that even comes close to the other-worldly component found on JT is 'One'. Even if you polled only the people who list AB as a favourite, *most* of them would say 'One' is the clear-cut best song on that album. If you polled all U2 fans as to which songs on Achtung Baby are other-worldly classics, again 'One' would be the definitive and mostly likely *only* pick. On JT, however, you would get several responses: 'Streets'; 'Still Haven't Found'; 'With or Without You' being the most common picks. It's kind of scary that there are other songs on the album that are just as good. That's one of the major differences between Achtung Baby and The Joshua Tree. Both masterpieces, but one left the Earth without actually leaving it at all, while the other dove right in, burrowing itself inside the arteries of the human heart. Just my opinion, though.
You know Michael, I agree with you to a point. However, I think that what your post neglects to point out is that just because every song is great doesn't mean the album is great. I know that sounds odd, but if you think about it it can make a bit of sense. I think Joshua Tree is a great collection of songs, however I think that Achtung baby is the better album. I just think that AB is one great continuous piece. Sometimes, I think it's a concept album; it all fits together so well. While the Joshua tree album has some of the bands best songs, I don't think it has the same ebb and flow that AB has. This is of course purely opionated. Feel free to discuss.

By the way, just to stay on topic, I think Red Hill mining Town is a close second on JT, right behind One Tree Hill. End of story

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You know Michael, I agree with you to a point. However, I think that what your post neglects to point out is that just because every song is great doesn't mean the album is great. I know that sounds odd, but if you think about it it can make a bit of sense. I think Joshua Tree is a great collection of songs, however I think that Achtung baby is the better album. I just think that AB is one great continuous piece. Sometimes, I think it's a concept album; it all fits together so well. While the Joshua tree album has some of the bands best songs, I don't think it has the same ebb and flow that AB has. This is of course purely opionated. Feel free to discuss.

By the way, just to stay on topic, I think Red Hill mining Town is a close second on JT, right behind One Tree Hill. End of story

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I get what you're saying here, definitely. IMHO, AB is much more cohesive as an album. The songs all seem to share a common thread...With JT, there are some songs (specifically RHMT and TTYW) that stick out like sore thumbs to me...Not that they're not great songs...it just seems like they really don't fit with the rest.
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