"New" vs. "Old" U2

gherman · 04-24-2002, 09:07 AM

Last night I was watching Rattle and Hum and then Elevation right after. I could not get over how much better live they are now. I never realy noticed it until now. The songs are so much more "structured" and flawless Edge's guitar is sooo much better and he is a much better player now(14 years). But I noticed the difference in thier youthfull vibrance and Bono's voice was like fire works exploding in the night back then. So if you could pick a time, excluding songs or tour, would you rather listen to the "old" or the "new" U2 based on thier sound?

Ana · 04-24-2002, 09:12 AM

Boy is one of my top fave albums because of the power of the 4 band members. Bono's voice sounded stronger, as well as Edge's riffs and Larry's drumming.

04-24-2002, 09:17 AM

Hey gherman I see in one more post you will be an acrobat. Which guy do you want us to post hot pics of in your honor?

LMAO!

This is an interesting question. I love 'old' U2 very much, and I think Bono's voice, though it has lost some range, has a precious and sweet tender quality that draws me in. But, when I watch the old 80's tapes, I know that is the U2 I loved and always will. Sometimes, it is weird, and really hard to believe they are the same people. It's, for me, like the 'young U2' were somebody I used to know, but they are locked in the past, and 'old' U2 are different guys, but no, they are the same! It's weird and hard to explain. I wonder if even the other time experienced fans here will know what I mean.

I love old U2, I love young U2. But not in the same way, because as much as I'd like to believe they are the same guys, they aren't. But they are! Sometimes it blows my mind.

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~*"I DO go on, don't I?"~*-Bono, after making a speech, MCI Center, DC, June 14, 2001~

gherman · 04-24-2002, 10:08 AM

I like your personality stormy

AcrobatMan · 04-24-2002, 11:25 AM

BOY, OCTOBER, WAR , UF, TJT, RH .. Nothing like that

Even U2 cant outdo themselves.
May be the next album

I like all U2 albums but would prefer U2 of the 80's any day... anytime

AcrobatMan

david · 04-24-2002, 04:18 PM

I liked the seriousness of the late mid to late 80's U2. But I think I'd take the Achtung Baby era U2. They were kings of the world and they knew it. But they had fun with it. They poked fun at themselves while poking fun at the media.

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The more of these I drink the more Bono makes sense.. - Bean from the KROQ Breakfast with U2.

SoulNation · 04-25-2002, 12:55 AM

I think popmart was their best at least they were being creative and reconstructed old songs.

Zooropa · 04-25-2002, 01:18 AM

I definetly go with the New U2, more artistic, focused and complex. Just a better band now. Don't get me wrong, I love all their stuff, Boy and JT are Great albums but they will never match Achtung Baby, Zooropa and Pop.

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Don't let the bastards grind you down.

Zooropa FTP

Lemonator · 04-25-2002, 02:09 AM

Old Kicks Ass...i'll take Rattle & Hum over Popmart anyday

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We'll Shine Like Stars In The Summer Nights...

kobayashi · 04-25-2002, 02:34 AM

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MrBrau1 · 04-25-2002, 02:40 AM

To think of U2 without their last 10 yrs of work-One, Zooropa, Stay, Acrobat, Gone, Kite, HMTMKMKM, BD, Walk On, actually, too many to mention-leaves the band feeling incomplete. Ya need it all to get the whole picture. I can't seperate the music into eras, the image maybe, but not the music.

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Fuck, the cooler's empty!

Saracene · 04-25-2002, 05:48 AM

Well, as I'm an ATYCLB-era fan, all the previous U2 incarnations are "old" U2 to me, but as far as 80s vs. 90s go, I find something to like and dislike in both eras and I can't really pick between them. I love the fact that they contrast each other so much and that each era and "mini-era" has it's own sharply defined sound and imagery. Even if I'm not crazy about some particular directions, I realise that somehow the whole picture wouldn't be as complete without them.

wertsie · 04-26-2002, 05:14 PM

I'm sort of all over the place on this issue. I've seen them live in person for Elevation and Popmart, and I liked Popmart better (but they were both AMAZING, of course!). But still, a part of me wishes I could beam myself back to the late 70s-early 80s to catch them in a club!

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"We're one, but we're not the same..."

http://U2Baby.com

christiana · 04-26-2002, 09:54 PM

Even if you exclude songs or tour, still I'd rather listen to the 'new' U2 sound. I agree with you that they sound so much better than the 80's. Especially the guitar, its sound is so 'rich'... And also, I don't know why but I like how Bono sounds right now. Although he cannot reach some of the high notes which he could back then, but he sounds much more emotional and touching...

Well... maybe that's just me...

[This message has been edited by christiana (edited 04-26-2002).]

Lemon Meringue · 04-26-2002, 10:25 PM

I noticed that a lot of the songs are played slower now than they were. Sunday Bloody Sunday is much faster on Red Rocks than how they play it now.

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Cheers!
Meringue

04-27-2002, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gherman:
I like your personality stormy

Thank you! I'm glad someone around here does!

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~*"I DO go on, don't I?"~*-Bono, after making a speech, MCI Center, DC, June 14, 2001~

wertsie · 04-27-2002, 08:37 PM

One of these days I want to make a U2 live songs tape from all different eras. That would be fun. I love making mixed tapes! And the weirder the combinations, the better!

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"We're one, but we're not the same..."

http://U2Baby.com

GypsyHeartgirl · 04-27-2002, 08:44 PM

I have made my own 'greatest hits' compilations from my own CD's. I print cute pics to put on it. I love old U2, from the old days, but old U2, as in they are old now, are cool too. Remember I'm old too, no offense!

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"I've been all over,
and it's been all over me!"

wertsie · 04-27-2002, 08:49 PM

hehe...Well, I don't think of them as old. I think "old" isn't really a number. It has to do with how you feel and how you live. Don't know why I'm saying this, but anyway...

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"We're one, but we're not the same..."

http://U2Baby.com

**Bonochick** · 04-27-2002, 09:11 PM

I personally can't choose.

However, many people I've talked to like U2's older stuff. I talked to a friend of mine the other day, and he said he has U2's 80's albums and loves them all...even "October"...but he doesn't like their 90's material.

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"Frisbetarians believe that when they die their soul goes up on the roof, and they can't get it down."

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04-24-2002, 09:07 AM	#1
gherman New Yorker Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Ann Arbor, MI, USA Posts: 2,525 Local Time: 10:28 PM	"New" vs. "Old" U2 Last night I was watching Rattle and Hum and then Elevation right after. I could not get over how much better live they are now. I never realy noticed it until now. The songs are so much more "structured" and flawless Edge's guitar is sooo much better and he is a much better player now(14 years). But I noticed the difference in thier youthfull vibrance and Bono's voice was like fire works exploding in the night back then. So if you could pick a time, excluding songs or tour, would you rather listen to the "old" or the "new" U2 based on thier sound? __________________

04-24-2002, 09:12 AM	#2
Ana Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Another Time, Another Place, in The Electric Co. ; behind the Shadows and Tall Trees Posts: 4,229 Local Time: 02:28 PM	Boy is one of my top fave albums because of the power of the 4 band members. Bono's voice sounded stronger, as well as Edge's riffs and Larry's drumming. __________________

04-27-2002, 09:11 PM	#20
Bonochick Halloweenhead Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cherry Lane Posts: 40,820 Local Time: 05:28 PM	I personally can't choose. However, many people I've talked to like U2's older stuff. I talked to a friend of mine the other day, and he said he has U2's 80's albums and loves them all...even "October"...but he doesn't like their 90's material. ------------------ "Frisbetarians believe that when they die their soul goes up on the roof, and they can't get it down." Bonochick's Place __________________

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04-24-2002, 09:17 AM	#3
Stormy Guest Posts: n/a Local Time: 09:28 PM	Hey gherman I see in one more post you will be an acrobat. Which guy do you want us to post hot pics of in your honor? LMAO! This is an interesting question. I love 'old' U2 very much, and I think Bono's voice, though it has lost some range, has a precious and sweet tender quality that draws me in. But, when I watch the old 80's tapes, I know that is the U2 I loved and always will. Sometimes, it is weird, and really hard to believe they are the same people. It's, for me, like the 'young U2' were somebody I used to know, but they are locked in the past, and 'old' U2 are different guys, but no, they are the same! It's weird and hard to explain. I wonder if even the other time experienced fans here will know what I mean. I love old U2, I love young U2. But not in the same way, because as much as I'd like to believe they are the same guys, they aren't. But they are! Sometimes it blows my mind. ------------------ ~"I DO go on, don't I?"~-Bono, after making a speech, MCI Center, DC, June 14, 2001~

04-24-2002, 10:08 AM	#4
gherman New Yorker Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Ann Arbor, MI, USA Posts: 2,525 Local Time: 10:28 PM	I like your personality stormy

04-24-2002, 11:25 AM	#5
AcrobatMan Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Song of the week "sentimental" by Porcupine Tree Posts: 3,854 Local Time: 09:28 PM	BOY, OCTOBER, WAR , UF, TJT, RH .. Nothing like that Even U2 cant outdo themselves. May be the next album I like all U2 albums but would prefer U2 of the 80's any day... anytime AcrobatMan

04-24-2002, 04:18 PM	#6
david ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: southern california Posts: 10,906 Local Time: 02:28 PM	I liked the seriousness of the late mid to late 80's U2. But I think I'd take the Achtung Baby era U2. They were kings of the world and they knew it. But they had fun with it. They poked fun at themselves while poking fun at the media. ------------------ The more of these I drink the more Bono makes sense.. - Bean from the KROQ Breakfast with U2.

04-25-2002, 12:55 AM	#7
SoulNation Babyface Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 19 Local Time: 08:28 AM	I think popmart was their best at least they were being creative and reconstructed old songs.

04-25-2002, 01:18 AM	#8
Zooropa Acrobat Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 421 Local Time: 05:28 PM	I definetly go with the New U2, more artistic, focused and complex. Just a better band now. Don't get me wrong, I love all their stuff, Boy and JT are Great albums but they will never match Achtung Baby, Zooropa and Pop. ------------------ Don't let the bastards grind you down. Zooropa FTP

04-25-2002, 02:09 AM	#9
Lemonator The Fly Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 160 Local Time: 09:28 PM	Old Kicks Ass...i'll take Rattle & Hum over Popmart anyday ------------------ "Yep...Silver and Gold!!!" - Bono We'll Shine Like Stars In The Summer Nights...

04-25-2002, 02:34 AM	#10
kobayashi Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: the ether Posts: 5,142 Local Time: 05:28 PM	U2

04-25-2002, 02:40 AM	#11
MrBrau1 ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Verplexed in Vermont Posts: 10,436 Local Time: 04:28 PM	To think of U2 without their last 10 yrs of work-One, Zooropa, Stay, Acrobat, Gone, Kite, HMTMKMKM, BD, Walk On, actually, too many to mention-leaves the band feeling incomplete. Ya need it all to get the whole picture. I can't seperate the music into eras, the image maybe, but not the music. ------------------ Fuck, the cooler's empty!

04-25-2002, 05:48 AM	#12
Saracene Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia, some time after tea Posts: 6,325 Local Time: 09:28 PM	Well, as I'm an ATYCLB-era fan, all the previous U2 incarnations are "old" U2 to me, but as far as 80s vs. 90s go, I find something to like and dislike in both eras and I can't really pick between them. I love the fact that they contrast each other so much and that each era and "mini-era" has it's own sharply defined sound and imagery. Even if I'm not crazy about some particular directions, I realise that somehow the whole picture wouldn't be as complete without them.

04-26-2002, 05:14 PM	#13
wertsie Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: on a country road... Posts: 4,752 Local Time: 04:28 PM	I'm sort of all over the place on this issue. I've seen them live in person for Elevation and Popmart, and I liked Popmart better (but they were both AMAZING, of course!). But still, a part of me wishes I could beam myself back to the late 70s-early 80s to catch them in a club! ------------------ "We're one, but we're not the same..." http://U2Baby.com

04-26-2002, 09:54 PM	#14
christiana New Yorker Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 2,703 Local Time: 05:28 AM	Even if you exclude songs or tour, still I'd rather listen to the 'new' U2 sound. I agree with you that they sound so much better than the 80's. Especially the guitar, its sound is so 'rich'... And also, I don't know why but I like how Bono sounds right now. Although he cannot reach some of the high notes which he could back then, but he sounds much more emotional and touching... Well... maybe that's just me... [This message has been edited by christiana (edited 04-26-2002).]

04-26-2002, 10:25 PM	#15
Lemon Meringue Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Here Posts: 3,851 Local Time: 03:28 PM	I noticed that a lot of the songs are played slower now than they were. Sunday Bloody Sunday is much faster on Red Rocks than how they play it now. ------------------ Cheers! Meringue

04-27-2002, 08:37 PM	#17
wertsie Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: on a country road... Posts: 4,752 Local Time: 04:28 PM	One of these days I want to make a U2 live songs tape from all different eras. That would be fun. I love making mixed tapes! And the weirder the combinations, the better! ------------------ "We're one, but we're not the same..." http://U2Baby.com

04-27-2002, 08:44 PM	#18
GypsyHeartgirl POP for GIRLS Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Stuck in the 80's! Posts: 1,277 Local Time: 04:28 PM	I have made my own 'greatest hits' compilations from my own CD's. I print cute pics to put on it. I love old U2, from the old days, but old U2, as in they are old now, are cool too. Remember I'm old too, no offense! ------------------ "I've been all over, and it's been all over me!"

04-27-2002, 08:49 PM	#19
wertsie Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: on a country road... Posts: 4,752 Local Time: 04:28 PM	hehe...Well, I don't think of them as old. I think "old" isn't really a number. It has to do with how you feel and how you live. Don't know why I'm saying this, but anyway... ------------------ "We're one, but we're not the same..." http://U2Baby.com