My experience at "Here Is What Is" + Lanois Q&A

[cg]

i agree that battlestar galactica would totally alter bono's mindset and political views. also, porn. bono should watch more.

 

[dr. zooeuss]

Muldfeld,

I applaud your effort to have a serious discussion in here. I don't completely understand where you're coming from on all of it, nor do I think I agree with you on all of it, but it's good to see someone trying to raise the level of conversation here.

To everyone piling it on about battlestar galactica, you've made your point, there are plenty of other threads (or start new ones) that can be devoted to jokes...

...nothing against humor, but recycling jokes multiple times at the expense of someone who's trying to communicate their ideas and views is uncalled for...

 

[cg]

i can't speak for anyone else, but my comment was not a joke.

 

[dr. zooeuss]

i agree that battlestar galactica would totally alter bono's mindset and political views. also, porn. bono should watch more.

 

[cg]

yawning at the expense of someone who's trying to communicate their ideas and views is uncalled for...

 

[No spoken words]

I'll stop posting in this thread if Mudfeld stops pimping for BSG.

In myriad threads.

Until then, I'll gladly express my views on his views.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Muldfeld,

I applaud your effort to have a serious discussion in here. I don't completely understand where you're coming from on all of it, nor do I think I agree with you on all of it, but it's good to see someone trying to raise the level of conversation here.

To everyone piling it on about battlestar galactica, you've made your point, there are plenty of other threads (or start new ones) that can be devoted to jokes...

...nothing against humor, but recycling jokes multiple times at the expense of someone who's trying to communicate their ideas and views is uncalled for...

dude, seriously... i haven't been this inspired since episode 201a of star trek: voyager

 

[dr. zooeuss]

yawning at the expense of someone who's trying to communicate their ideas and views is uncalled for...

lmao

 

[dr. zooeuss]

I'll stop posting in this thread if Mudfeld stops pimping for BSG.

In myriad threads.

Until then, I'll gladly express my views on his views.

wow, ok..

 

[Irvine511]

i would like to nominate this thread for the "the most baffeling thread i have ever seen award."

 

[LMP]

dude, seriously... i haven't been this inspired since episode 201a of star trek: voyager

The one where the guy turned into a big lizard?

 

[Axver]

I can just imagine the roaring laugh once the theater cleared and Lanois and company went to visit over drinks... "did you hear that Battlestar Galactica guy?"

You know, considering the weirdness, Lanois probably will tell Bono all about it ... except instead of being at a recording session, it'll be over a couple of pints, and instead of writing songs that usher in world peace, Bono will snort Guinness out of his nose.

 

[The Sad Punk]

Obviously as a reference to the alien that shoots stout of his nose in episode 2F694 of Battlestar Galactica 69: The Reckoning.

 

[U2girl]

You know, considering the weirdness, Lanois probably will tell Bono all about it ... except instead of being at a recording session, it'll be over a couple of pints, and instead of writing songs that usher in world peace, Bono will snort Guinness out of his nose.

"So this guy Mudfeld comes up to me, across the muddy fields we see the battlestar...

OUTSIDE IT'S GALACTICA! OUTSIDE IT'S GALACTICA!

 

[Irvine511]

i just find it weird that you have an audience with one of the greatest producers ever, and instead of asking him a question where you might gain some insight into his process and how he works and what he does and hope he might share some of that genius, you recommend he get some tips from a cancelled TV show?

 

[Axver]

Obviously as a reference to the alien that shoots stout of his nose in episode 2F694 of Battlestar Galactica 69: The Reckoning.

"So this guy Mudfeld comes up to me, across the muddy fields we see the battlestar...

OUTSIDE IT'S GALACTICA! OUTSIDE IT'S GALACTICA!

Yeah, both of those are worthy.

 

[The Disciple]

Note to Muldfeld...... you are so obviously anti Israel.... perhaps you should read more history or talk to those that have lived the history of Israel ....My Grandmother was born in "Palestine" ....There was no such thing as The Palestinian People ..until after the state of Israel was created... Unfortunately at this time in the world ... again the Jewish people are to blame for all the ills in the world .... I have a question for you..... What exactly does a Q&A with Daniel Lanois ( whom I think is absolutely Brilliant) have to to do with the Middle East and Israel .. or did you you use this as a forum to rant about your views?.....

Thank God somebody finally said this, and did it more eloquently than I would have.

 

[babyman]

Close this thread, before someone comes claiming Homer Simpson as saviour of the world!


This thread failed, but don't go down on each other..................

 

[The Disciple]

"So this guy Mudfeld comes up to me, across the muddy fields we see the battlestar...

OUTSIDE IT'S GALACTICA! OUTSIDE IT'S GALACTICA!

Okay, that literally made me laugh out loud at work!

 

[blindinglights]

Muldfed's views on Israel are in my opinion pretty ridiculous to say the least. He or she clearly used this forum simply as an excuse to espouse some extremely warped opinions. This simple-minded approach does not take into account that the Jewish people had just gone through one of the most atrocious genocides in all of human history with 6 million brethren systematically killed by the nazis, and were fortunately able to return to the homeland that they had lived in for thousands of years, when the surrounding arab regimes immediately waged war in a STATED attempt to destroy and drive all the Jews into the sea. Fortunately the Jewish people staved off a second genocide by winning the war of 1948.
Moreover, terrorism, especially against innocent civilians should never have a place or be condoned. Dialogue and compromise are the only real solution (not "give me land and I won't kill you for a little while.") Palestinians are taught extreme anti-israel hatred and propoganda from the earliest childhood systematically in school. One Palestinian girl was graciously treated at a hospital in Chaifa and used the good will to to try to get back into that hospital and blow up as many patients and doctors and nurses as she could and was fortunately stopped. This is a poisonous mentality that Israel has to deal with every day.
Point is, Israel is far from being the main or only one at fault. Thanks to the other wonderful posters who stood up against this nonsense. I too would be pretty happy if this thread gets closed.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

that's like this one time, i happened upon george martin in a local pub. he sat down next to me, ordered up a dirty martini. knowing that i only had this one opportunity to talk to the man behind the beatles, i scooted my bar stool over and tapped him upon the shoulder.

"it's an honor to meet you," i said, "but honestly, i really think the second half of abbey road would have, ya know, reeeeally taken off if you could just watch a few episodes of perfect strangers. that balki bartakamous, he's a hell of an inspiration."

martin called paul up on his cell phone right then and there. true story. honest.

 

[lazarus]

This thread is very bizarre, to say the least. On one hand there are some very funny jokes being made (U2 Girl's BTBS parody is one of the best things I've read on here in ages), yet also disturbing on another level.

It's amazing how any time someone criticizes Israel's policies, they are immediately branded as some kind of intolerant Jew-hater. If you go back and read what Muldfield said, he never used the word "Israelis" or "Jews". He referred to Israel itself, which to me means its government. Why don't you just go ahead and call him a Nazi and Anti-Semite? It's the easiest way to discredit anything he may have said in the interest of a serious discussion.

As someone who was raised Jewish (including learning rudimentary Hebrew and being Bar Mitzvahed), I've seen this attitude many times, and it comes at no surprise that people are playing the victim so quickly. Look at Jimmy Carter, a hero of the Israel/Egypt Peace Agreements back in the 1970's and NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER, who attempted to write an objective book about the conflict, titled "Palastine: Peace Not Apartheid". When he suggested that Israel may not be playing completely fair with the Palestinean territories, he was attacked by the usual suspects like the Anti-Defamation League, who view any suggestion of Israeli government wrong doing as an all-out assault on the Jewish people. While I understand that Anti-Semitism is alive and well, and that Jews should always be on guard for those who would try to add to the history of discrimination and intolerance, this inability to have an objective discussion does no one any good.

The United States and Israel have on numerous occasions ignored or reneged on United Nations resolutions, and haven't shown themselves to be fair partners in peace. While death and destruction can be attributed to both sides, it bothers me that a suicide bomber can be called a terrorist while a tank blowing up women and children is just considered a military action. History has made it very difficult to sympathize with a much larger and stronger power over a smaller one that is trying to attain some kind of freedom for itself. I don't think this case is necessarily any different.

Back to my main point, it's my understanding that most Jews worldwide, and most Israeli civilians aren't as hardlined about this situation as the Israeli government. So when one criticizes the political entity, how does that translate to a generalization of its citizens? When people protest George Bush all over the world, I don't take it personally.

 

[jay canseco]

baffling

 

[Mrs. Garrison]

To the original poster, it's just amazing how some people will take an opportunity like you had and use it to try and exploit your political views as if you needed some type of "approval" from your peers or perhaps you just wanted others to think you were the smartest person in the room. Jann S. Wenner does it every two weeks in that piece of shit magazine called 'Rolling Stone".

If in attendance, i probably would have thrown up in my mouth and accidently did a couple of while im sure others would have been thinking if not saying aloud:

"Hey, we don't really give a flying fuck! Back to the music (of Lanois)!"

Now if you had suggested that Bono & company watch South Park....

The End

 

[Irvine511]

i'd like to invite everyone over to FYM.

 

[corianderstem]

Close this thread, before someone comes claiming Homer Simpson as saviour of the world!

SAVE ME, JEBUS!!!!!

 

[The Disciple]

To the original poster, it's just amazing how some people will take an opportunity like you had and use it to try and exploit your political views as if you needed some type of "approval" from your peers or perhaps you just wanted others to think you were the smartest person in the room. Jann S. Wenner does it every two weeks in that piece of shit magazine called 'Rolling Stone".

AMEN!!

 

[shart1780]

Man, I was hoping more that you'd have brought up the issue of why U2's last two albums were boring and that you thought they should try something new for the next record. Not gave a suggestion on what sort of political slant Bono's lyrics should have (in my mind, hopefully none). Also, come one. Battlestar is a really cool show, easily one of my favorites, but that was not the time or the place to bring it up. You most likely came off as either a Sci Fi channel bigshot or a supernerd.

And I'm glad to see some defense of Israel in tis thread. It's long overdue to say the least.

 

[bathiu]

It's amazing how any time someone criticizes Israel's policies, they are immediately branded as some kind of intolerant Jew-hater. If you go back and read what Muldfield said, he never used the word "Israelis" or "Jews". He referred to Israel itself, which to me means its government. Why don't you just go ahead and call him a Nazi and Anti-Semite? It's the easiest way to discredit anything he may have said in the interest of a serious discussion.

As someone who was raised Jewish (including learning rudimentary Hebrew and being Bar Mitzvahed), I've seen this attitude many times, and it comes at no surprise that people are playing the victim so quickly. Look at Jimmy Carter, a hero of the Israel/Egypt Peace Agreements back in the 1970's and NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER, who attempted to write an objective book about the conflict, titled "Palastine: Peace Not Apartheid". When he suggested that Israel may not be playing completely fair with the Palestinean territories, he was attacked by the usual suspects like the Anti-Defamation League, who view any suggestion of Israeli government wrong doing as an all-out assault on the Jewish people. While I understand that Anti-Semitism is alive and well, and that Jews should always be on guard for those who would try to add to the history of discrimination and intolerance, this inability to have an objective discussion does no one any good.

The United States and Israel have on numerous occasions ignored or reneged on United Nations resolutions, and haven't shown themselves to be fair partners in peace. While death and destruction can be attributed to both sides, it bothers me that a suicide bomber can be called a terrorist while a tank blowing up women and children is just considered a military action. History has made it very difficult to sympathize with a much larger and stronger power over a smaller one that is trying to attain some kind of freedom for itself. I don't think this case is necessarily any different.

AMEN!!

 

[Bonochick]

i'd like to invite everyone over to FYM.

That's what I was thinking.

If you guys wanna talk about U2-related stuff pertaining to the new album, fine. That's what this forum is for. But if you wanna get purely political...please take it to FYM.

I also think if you want to talk about Battlestar Galactica in any way that doesn't relate to U2...please take it to Zoo Station. In fact, there's already a thread about it:

http://forum.interference.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164334