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I can definitely see the point / concerns with a leaked album on the net - especially this early. With the ability to download it - it could lessen album sales. There is the danger of a negative reaction by both some word-of-mouth and by a few members of the press. There will always be people who won?t like this latest new direction of U2. It would impact on their promotion schedule and strategy.
On the other hand ? it could be deflated somewhat with the press approach ?it?s only a demo copy with a lot of rough versions. And it doesn?t even contain the all of the songs that will be finally on it.? And that Universal Records likely would prevent websites from hosting the new album thereby forcing people to track down the real song titles and wading through the mp3 sites.
Secondly ? I imagine that most of who would take the time and effort to download all of it would us ?big U2 fans? who are going to buy it anyway.
Thirdly - Dallas Schoo confirmed what we heard when U2 was in Portugal a couple months back for a photo shoot ? a ?CD/DVD.? I can see the addition of DVD being a limited edition type of thing. And if this is a ?sweet? DVD loaded with something like a behind the scenes making of the Vertigo album / including footage of some songs that didn?t make the album! / a Clarence Hotel rooftop-like performance of the first single / interviews with the band / etc. then I can see many ?casual U2 fans? who may have downloaded it in advance having a reason to purchase the album.
Fourthly ? the online reviews by us ?big U2 fans? could positively help the album. Like a test screening of a film - our comments could influence and shape the final album. Like something with Electrical Storm. If large number of people are generally impressed with the ?Orbit version? but wish it was a bit harder then the band can release the ?Band version? instead on the actual album. Fan insights could possibly influence the flow of the album - the final track list. And ? of course ? we could give it a tremendous positive word-of-mouth promotion. (If it?s downloadable I can see myself and I imagine some other fans could do the same ? playing it for others but not burn copies of it for others).
Fifthly ? an earlier release may be what U2 wants and it won?t necessarily hurt them. November 23 is later than typical U2 album releases. Doesn?t the ?Big? Christmas releases come out in very late October and on the first Tuesday of November? If U2 releases Vertigo in early or mid October it could not only give them a Number 1 opening (in the U.S.) but also establish themselves as ?king-of-the-hill? to all challengers: ?U2?s Vertigo remains the biggest selling album of the Fall.? And U2 could use a late November DVD release ? the Best Of 80s Videos (packed with tons of extra goodies) or ZOOTV Sydney (along with the release of the second single) = more press and promotion of the Vertigo album. November 22 & 23 could either be the Tour announcement or when tickets go on sale: ?Pick up concert tickets. They?ll make a great stocking stuffer for Christmas morning.? = more press and promotion of the Vertigo album
Six - I do not think that the Vertigo album will need the same intense promotion that the ?comeback? / ?damage control? ATYCLB album required.
Seven - U2 may have seen all that could contend for the Grammy ?Album Of The Year? in February 2005 and realize that they have an excellent chance to win it. Wouldn?t that be a great way to kick off the Tour in late March in Florida ? album of the year and inductees into the R N? R Hall Of Fame. Isn?t the deadline for the 2005 Grammies the end of September?
On the other hand ? it could be deflated somewhat with the press approach ?it?s only a demo copy with a lot of rough versions. And it doesn?t even contain the all of the songs that will be finally on it.? And that Universal Records likely would prevent websites from hosting the new album thereby forcing people to track down the real song titles and wading through the mp3 sites.
Secondly ? I imagine that most of who would take the time and effort to download all of it would us ?big U2 fans? who are going to buy it anyway.
Thirdly - Dallas Schoo confirmed what we heard when U2 was in Portugal a couple months back for a photo shoot ? a ?CD/DVD.? I can see the addition of DVD being a limited edition type of thing. And if this is a ?sweet? DVD loaded with something like a behind the scenes making of the Vertigo album / including footage of some songs that didn?t make the album! / a Clarence Hotel rooftop-like performance of the first single / interviews with the band / etc. then I can see many ?casual U2 fans? who may have downloaded it in advance having a reason to purchase the album.
Fourthly ? the online reviews by us ?big U2 fans? could positively help the album. Like a test screening of a film - our comments could influence and shape the final album. Like something with Electrical Storm. If large number of people are generally impressed with the ?Orbit version? but wish it was a bit harder then the band can release the ?Band version? instead on the actual album. Fan insights could possibly influence the flow of the album - the final track list. And ? of course ? we could give it a tremendous positive word-of-mouth promotion. (If it?s downloadable I can see myself and I imagine some other fans could do the same ? playing it for others but not burn copies of it for others).
Fifthly ? an earlier release may be what U2 wants and it won?t necessarily hurt them. November 23 is later than typical U2 album releases. Doesn?t the ?Big? Christmas releases come out in very late October and on the first Tuesday of November? If U2 releases Vertigo in early or mid October it could not only give them a Number 1 opening (in the U.S.) but also establish themselves as ?king-of-the-hill? to all challengers: ?U2?s Vertigo remains the biggest selling album of the Fall.? And U2 could use a late November DVD release ? the Best Of 80s Videos (packed with tons of extra goodies) or ZOOTV Sydney (along with the release of the second single) = more press and promotion of the Vertigo album. November 22 & 23 could either be the Tour announcement or when tickets go on sale: ?Pick up concert tickets. They?ll make a great stocking stuffer for Christmas morning.? = more press and promotion of the Vertigo album
Six - I do not think that the Vertigo album will need the same intense promotion that the ?comeback? / ?damage control? ATYCLB album required.
Seven - U2 may have seen all that could contend for the Grammy ?Album Of The Year? in February 2005 and realize that they have an excellent chance to win it. Wouldn?t that be a great way to kick off the Tour in late March in Florida ? album of the year and inductees into the R N? R Hall Of Fame. Isn?t the deadline for the 2005 Grammies the end of September?
you're right u2solar, this could just be U2's way of taking control of their record and not listening to Universal's schedual for them.
You know that they are anxious for fans to hear the new material (i.e. bono invites fans into his car, playing the songs with open windows, invitations into the studio).
If this ISN'T an accident, then bravo U2, you are a sneeky bunch!
You know that they are anxious for fans to hear the new material (i.e. bono invites fans into his car, playing the songs with open windows, invitations into the studio).
If this ISN'T an accident, then bravo U2, you are a sneeky bunch!
Salome said:I guess that if songs haven't appeared on the net within the next 24 hours that will be the last we've heard about this
I agree.....if a person actually stole the CD, then they would have no guilt factor of putting them on the net. I won't listen to them though until the album comes out!
Edgette
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From Yahoo News
U2 hunt album lost or stolen in photo shoot
NICE, France (AFP) - Police in southern France were investigating the disappearance of a rough cut of the forthcoming album by Irish rock group U2, amid fears it could be posted on the Internet months ahead of the official release.
Singer Bono, who has a house on the Cote D'Azur, and the three other members of the band paid a discreet visit to police headquarters in Nice on Wednesday to give statements about the possible theft, which took place during a photo shoot at a recording studio in the city, police said.
Altogether some 20 people who were present at the Victorine studios on Tuesday evening were being questioned, they said.
"We have to be careful. Was it lost or was it stolen? An enquiry is underway," said one officer.
"We have numerous theories -- from the fan who wants the rough cut for his collection to the web specialist who wants to be the first to put it out," he said.
The as yet unnamed album is expected to be released in November.
Yahoo Link
U2 hunt album lost or stolen in photo shoot
NICE, France (AFP) - Police in southern France were investigating the disappearance of a rough cut of the forthcoming album by Irish rock group U2, amid fears it could be posted on the Internet months ahead of the official release.
Singer Bono, who has a house on the Cote D'Azur, and the three other members of the band paid a discreet visit to police headquarters in Nice on Wednesday to give statements about the possible theft, which took place during a photo shoot at a recording studio in the city, police said.
Altogether some 20 people who were present at the Victorine studios on Tuesday evening were being questioned, they said.
"We have to be careful. Was it lost or was it stolen? An enquiry is underway," said one officer.
"We have numerous theories -- from the fan who wants the rough cut for his collection to the web specialist who wants to be the first to put it out," he said.
The as yet unnamed album is expected to be released in November.
Yahoo Link
kennerado
Refugee
Was the CD labelled? What if it was blank and someone thought "oh whats a blank cd here?", assumes its blank and takes it home with no idea U2 is on it.
OR
Someone threw it in the bin by accident.
Just my theory.
OR
Someone threw it in the bin by accident.
Just my theory.
CampbellMSU
The Fly
i have discotheque on right now. it is my crime fighting music. u2fan supersleuths, we need action, now!
sue4u2
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The hairdresser did it 
arw
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um....forgive me but I've been at work all day and after a crazy day there I don't have the patience read this entire thread.
What the hell happened? Anyone care to give a quick recap of the days events?
What the hell happened? Anyone care to give a quick recap of the days events?
Stolen Cd Theory
Convenience seems to be the issue I have with this stolen CD. It seems very convenient that this CD just happened to be unattended to during a highly secretive photo shoot. Also, after everything that's happened over the last few years (Achtung Baby Outtakes, POP tracks online msyetriously, ATYCLB online mysteriously) something smells fishy here.
But, U2 is going to the Police about this. So if it is intentional and a publicity thing, they're going a long way so we can believe the lie.
So...where does that leave us?
Here?s the way I see it:
A dark restaurant in Nice, U2 are sitting in the back by a shadowed table. A guy walks in, Sopranos-type?you know the type. He sees U2 and walks to them.
GUY: Are you? (looks at piece pf paper) John, Ringo, George and Paul?
BONO: That?s us.
ADAM: I?m Paul.
GUY: Good for you.
He sits down.
GUY: So what can I do for you?
BONO: I understand you?re a man who?s good at making this disappear.
GUY: From time to time.
BONO: Good. Well, you see, there?s this CD?it?ll be in a CD player during this photo shoot?and?this CD?it has to disappear.
EDGE: But, but it has to appear stolen.
GUY: Look, you don?t tell me how to do my job, and I don?t tell you how to play drums.
EDGE: Um?I play guitar, actually.
LARRY: Way to go, Edge! You?ll blow our cover!
They all look at Larry.
EDGE: Nice, Ringo, why don?t you just tell him where I live.
LARRY: Well, I?m not the one?
ADAM: Guys, guys, can we stick to the point at hand here.
They look back at the mobster guy.
GUY: Look, you want something gone, I can make it gone.
BONO: Heh.
GUY: What?
BONO: We wrote a song called ?Gone? once.
Larry hits Bono in the back of the head.
BONO: What? Oh, sorry.
GUY: Yes, I can do it. But you said there was something else.
BONO: Yes, there is.
They all lean in to the center of the table.
BONO: This CD?the contents on it?they have to mysteriously appear?
GUY: Appear?
EDGE: On the Internet.
ADAM: Preferably at Interference.com.
They shoot Adam a look.
ADAM: What? They?ve been very nice to us.
LARRY: Two words for you pal: PLEBA.
ADAM: That?s two words?
LARRY: Whatever.
GUYS: Hey! Josie & The Pussycats, wanna save it for later?
LARRY: Sorry.
They all nod.
GUY: The Internet, huh?
BONO: Yeah?but it can?t be traced back to us.
GUY: Naturally.
EDGE: Can you do it?
A moment of silence as the guy thinks to himself.
GUY: I can make the CD disappear?but this thing, this Internet thing?I?m gonna have to bring in someone. Someone who knows this Internet?a specialist.
EDGE: How much is that gonna cost?
GUY: If you want the best, you gotta pay for it.
BONO: This is true. I had this bottle of wine once, like three thousand pounds--
Larry hits Bono in the back of the head AGAIN.
BONO: Jeez!
EDGE: A specialist, huh?
GUY: Yes. A specialist.
They all look at Edge is is in deep thought.
EDGE: Hmmm
They sit in silence.
FADE OUT:
That's how I think it happened. So while I sit back and wait for the 'stolen' tracks to appear online, I'll smile to myself knowing U2 has pulled off one of the greatest hoaxes in history since the Great Christmas Caper of 1956...which I'm legally not allowed to talk about so nevermind about that...
Convenience seems to be the issue I have with this stolen CD. It seems very convenient that this CD just happened to be unattended to during a highly secretive photo shoot. Also, after everything that's happened over the last few years (Achtung Baby Outtakes, POP tracks online msyetriously, ATYCLB online mysteriously) something smells fishy here.
But, U2 is going to the Police about this. So if it is intentional and a publicity thing, they're going a long way so we can believe the lie.
So...where does that leave us?
Here?s the way I see it:
A dark restaurant in Nice, U2 are sitting in the back by a shadowed table. A guy walks in, Sopranos-type?you know the type. He sees U2 and walks to them.
GUY: Are you? (looks at piece pf paper) John, Ringo, George and Paul?
BONO: That?s us.
ADAM: I?m Paul.
GUY: Good for you.
He sits down.
GUY: So what can I do for you?
BONO: I understand you?re a man who?s good at making this disappear.
GUY: From time to time.
BONO: Good. Well, you see, there?s this CD?it?ll be in a CD player during this photo shoot?and?this CD?it has to disappear.
EDGE: But, but it has to appear stolen.
GUY: Look, you don?t tell me how to do my job, and I don?t tell you how to play drums.
EDGE: Um?I play guitar, actually.
LARRY: Way to go, Edge! You?ll blow our cover!
They all look at Larry.
EDGE: Nice, Ringo, why don?t you just tell him where I live.
LARRY: Well, I?m not the one?
ADAM: Guys, guys, can we stick to the point at hand here.
They look back at the mobster guy.
GUY: Look, you want something gone, I can make it gone.
BONO: Heh.
GUY: What?
BONO: We wrote a song called ?Gone? once.
Larry hits Bono in the back of the head.
BONO: What? Oh, sorry.
GUY: Yes, I can do it. But you said there was something else.
BONO: Yes, there is.
They all lean in to the center of the table.
BONO: This CD?the contents on it?they have to mysteriously appear?
GUY: Appear?
EDGE: On the Internet.
ADAM: Preferably at Interference.com.
They shoot Adam a look.
ADAM: What? They?ve been very nice to us.
LARRY: Two words for you pal: PLEBA.
ADAM: That?s two words?
LARRY: Whatever.
GUYS: Hey! Josie & The Pussycats, wanna save it for later?
LARRY: Sorry.
They all nod.
GUY: The Internet, huh?
BONO: Yeah?but it can?t be traced back to us.
GUY: Naturally.
EDGE: Can you do it?
A moment of silence as the guy thinks to himself.
GUY: I can make the CD disappear?but this thing, this Internet thing?I?m gonna have to bring in someone. Someone who knows this Internet?a specialist.
EDGE: How much is that gonna cost?
GUY: If you want the best, you gotta pay for it.
BONO: This is true. I had this bottle of wine once, like three thousand pounds--
Larry hits Bono in the back of the head AGAIN.
BONO: Jeez!
EDGE: A specialist, huh?
GUY: Yes. A specialist.
They all look at Edge is is in deep thought.
EDGE: Hmmm
They sit in silence.
FADE OUT:
That's how I think it happened. So while I sit back and wait for the 'stolen' tracks to appear online, I'll smile to myself knowing U2 has pulled off one of the greatest hoaxes in history since the Great Christmas Caper of 1956...which I'm legally not allowed to talk about so nevermind about that...
The Scientist
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Okay who has the new album?
Okay who has it.......?
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._afp/france_arts_music_u2_people_040715155319
http://www.nme.com/news/109187.htm
Time to cough it up......
*waits*
Okay who has it.......?
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._afp/france_arts_music_u2_people_040715155319
http://www.nme.com/news/109187.htm
Time to cough it up......
*waits*
kennerado
Refugee
Yeah really, no one likes a horder.
madamadam
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biff
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arw9797 said:
You will be doing yourself a favour by reading only the items posted in the news section, and not all of the replies. Most of these are from cynical conspiracy types and/or jokesters. Read the news items and form your own opinion before wading into the morass.
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New album title:
"All That You Can't Leave Lying Around"
"All That You Can't Leave Lying Around"
dandy
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earnieOh no not the hoarding debate again.
macphistosmagic
The Fly
Yeah I saw this on the news and I couldn't believe it....I was like this is worse than losing the lyrics to October, Bono! Who do you suppose misplaced this one?
nurse chrissi
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1489470/20040715/u2.jhtml?headlines=true
Both MTV and VH1 websites are carrying the story now. I feel bad for u2 this happened but at the same time happy that the new album is starting to generate a buzz - hmm.... that is a really positive side effect....
Both MTV and VH1 websites are carrying the story now. I feel bad for u2 this happened but at the same time happy that the new album is starting to generate a buzz - hmm.... that is a really positive side effect....
Jack In The Box
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
again? bah!
perhaps we shall find the cd next to bono's laptop and the original lyrics to the october album.
madonna's child
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Earnie Shavers said:
Earnie Shavers
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Featuring the new single...
"Disc-o-theft"
"Disc-o-theft"
biff
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
I guess I really am a voice crying in the wilderness here. I just don't understand how so many of you (the majority it seems) can be feeling such obvious glee over this. I honestly don't get it. If the disk was stolen (and clearly the band thinks this is a possibility, or they would not have reported it to police-unless they are, as many of you apparently think, complete villains), then they must be extremely angry at the very least. Why would anything about this situation make you happy, unless it means you can hear the album sooner, even if not completed to the band's satisfaction? How can fans take satisfaction from this?
Or is it just something more for some of you to whine and gripe about?
Or is it just something more for some of you to whine and gripe about?
Earnie Shavers
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The new album will now also include a reworked version of "Full Metal Jacket" titled "Fully Check Your Jackets" and Bono is working on new, angrier lyrics for "All Because Of You" and this song is now dedicated to the theif.
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Crap...I don't even know what to think about this. I can't believe they would go to the police if it wasn't really stolen. That would be awful if someone really did steal it - it had to have been someone in the U2 camp if it was a top-secret photo shoot, unless some fan was sneaky enough to get in. It would be worse if it really was an inside job rather than a fan. It would be like someone you worked with stole a project off your desk that you had been working on for months.
But if it really is a publicity stunt (which I highly doubt) I would be very pissed at the band. They're U2, the biggest band of the past 20 years! They don't need to resort to cheap publicity stunts. It just makes them look desperate.
But if it really is a publicity stunt (which I highly doubt) I would be very pissed at the band. They're U2, the biggest band of the past 20 years! They don't need to resort to cheap publicity stunts. It just makes them look desperate.
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