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Joshua Tree has always been far too weak after In God's Country for my tastes--I find ATYCLB stronger in the second half than JT.
Are you kidding? 2 of the 4 remaining songs on TJT include One Tree Hill and Exit.
Joshua Tree has always been far too weak after In God's Country for my tastes--I find ATYCLB stronger in the second half than JT.
roy said:
Are you kidding? 2 of the 4 remaining songs on TJT include One Tree Hill and Exit.
ImOuttaControl said:
Yup I know that, and sorry I'm not kidding
I find Trip Through Your Wires aweful, One Tree Hill O.K. at best, Exit on the album is terrible, production completely ruined it, and Mother of the Disappeared ok, but boring.
I think OTH and Exit are redeemed live--Exit is one of my all-time favorite live songs, and OTH is also excellent live. Exit was butchered beyond any other U2 song I can think of though on the album(even worse than the album versions of some Pop songs (Please, IGWSHA).
roy said:
So you agree they are both great songs then.
ImOuttaControl said:
A great live song does not mean the album version was great, which is why I don't see JT as a masterpiece.
roy said:
Em, that's an interestings point... I'm not sure I agree though. The songs 'belong' to Joshua Tree regardless..
ImOuttaControl said:
Yeah it's up to opinion I guess. My point is that they are great songs, but they didn't come across as great on an album, so the album isn't as good as it could have been. There was the potential though, and I know most fans disagree with my whole opinion that the Joshua Tree isn't a masterpiece.
I'll put it this way; POP is one of my favorite albums and could be considered a masterpiece if you took the songs as they were meant to be--the way they were released as singles(the way they were for the most part played live). Then you'd have a great version of IGWSHA, an improved LNOE, an infinitely better Please, and if you took the live versions of Miami and IYWTVD, you'd have nearly a perfect album...problem is that a lot of the songs were butchered on the album. It doesn't make them not great songs, it just makes the album not as great as it could have been.
bathiu said:
Britney is loved by millions, Eminem is loved by millions...
And do I realy have to say where and what kind of people, simple words of truth changed into "bashing by a vocal handful of people" type of propaganda?
djerdap said:No U2 album has so many mediocre or even weak songs in it. Without any innovation, just tired pop songs like Peace on Earth, Grace, Wild Honey, the embarassing Elevation, In a Little While, When I Look at the World.
ATYCLB was a great live album. Beautiful Day, Walk On and Kite really went somewhere live. They are great songs and absolutely the high spot of their 2000 songwriting. Other than that, this album for me was very disappointing.
U2Kitten said:
Because I have never seen or heard this album criticized by ANYONE ANYWHERE other than a small handful of people here on this forum (and their alters).
yimou said:Spread the love people !!!!,, Some like ATYCLB, and some hate it.. I am in between, and would probarly never recommend a first time listener to that album. But we are different, and thats cool.
Mac Phisto said:Radiohead was making music not even their mother's could love.
bsp77 said:
Seems like you are going along well until this ignorant statement surfaced.
HelloAngel said:A merging we will go! A merging we will go! High ho the dario a merging we will go!
Mac Phisto said:
"Ignorant" is a strong word kidd-o...so let's take it easy there. If you'd like to lead me to the gas chamber for saying that The Bends and OK Computer were better than Kid A, I have a feeling I'd have a lot of company. Kid A was the beginning of the end for Radiohead in my opinion, as evidenced by the continued meandering of Amnesiac and Hail to the Thief.