beli
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lol. Lets see how long it lasts before the whineybabies complain to management.
beli said:I'm thinking of changing my signature from its current nothingness to
"U2.com subscription date is in International Format. This message has been repeated many many many times so shut the fuck up dickhead!!!!!"
What do you reckon?
Axver said:
Nice! I burst out laughing. Though you typed 'may' as 'my' in the sig. Might want to fix that one up.
Did you even read my post? My point is that just because Paul McGuinness and his management people screwed up the pre-sale it doesn't mean the BAND MEMBERS are at fault. That's what some people have been screaming since the start of the pre-sale - that Bono, Edge, Adam and Larry personally ripped them off, which is just stupid. U2 is two things, a band made up of four guys who make music and also a large business run by Paul McGuinness. The business side is at fault for this mess. Larry is stepping up here and accepting some of the blame on behalf of the business side of U2. But nowhere in his letter does he CLEARLY say that U2 (the band) was at fault. Larry says "There was a mess up in the way the tickets were distributed through U2.com for the Vertigo pre-sale. Some of it was beyond our control, but some of it wasn't." Meaning some of the pre-sale problems could have perhaps been prevented if the people on the business side of U2 had run things better.Flying FuManchu said:Dude or dudette... Larry CLEARLY said that U2 was at fault for some of the mess in his little letter. Why are people even denying culpability of the band when Larry even admits it is beyond me.
beli said:
The same reason they couldn't get the rest of the stuff (I'm not going to open old wounds). Some U2 fans are fucking stupid.
"There was a mess up in the way the tickets were distributed through U2.com for the Vertigo pre-sale. Some of it was beyond our control, but some of it wasn't."
JOFO said:
excuse me:
I posted a clear statement describing the 2 types of fans that were complaining over the ticket mess. I "get" larry's last statement. I think it's a little immature for him to drop to that level. but fine, he's quick-tempered; so am I.
I don't appreciate you saying that because there may have been some confusion over who he's addressing with his "2 words" that I may be "fucking stupid".
It's pretty clear to me - 'Our' (We) = the people on U2's end who were working on the ticket pre-sale and those people would be the members of the management team NOT the band themselves. Larry posted his message on behalf of the entire U2 organization and therefore used the all encompassing 'our'. I'm sure that as a member of U2 he feels personally responsible for what the business people do wrong but that does not mean that he IS personally responsible.Flying FuManchu said:
Then who the heck is OUR referring to? Our = possessive form of WE
Again, denial by some people of the band's culpability is weird when Larry admits to it plainly IMO.
Zootomic said:
It's pretty clear to me - 'Our' (We) = the people on U2's end who were working on the ticket pre-sale and those people would be the members of the management team NOT the band themselves. Larry posted his message on behalf of the entire U2 organization and therefore used the all encompassing 'our'. I'm sure that as a member of U2 he feels personally responsible for what the business people do wrong but that does not mean that he IS personally responsible.
beli said:
lol. That comment was directed at you at all for the very reasons you mentioned.
peace.
beli said:
oh shit! What a typo! I meant to say "That comment was NOT , repeat NOT, directed at you at all for the very reasons you mentioned.
My sincere apologies. Wow. What a typo.
peace
Zootomic said:
It's pretty clear to me - 'Our' (We) = the people on U2's end who were working on the ticket pre-sale and those people would be the members of the management team NOT the band themselves. Larry posted his message on behalf of the entire U2 organization and therefore used the all encompassing 'our'. I'm sure that as a member of U2 he feels personally responsible for what the business people do wrong but that does not mean that he IS personally responsible.
Don't get me wrong. I think the U2 organization screwed up the ticket sale. But I put the blame 100% on Paul McGuinness whose very job is to handle these situations professionally and skillfully so the band members themselves don't have to get involved. That is pretty much the job description of a band manager - handle the business so the band can just focus on the music. The fact that Larry Mullen has to be posting messages to the fans and has to get more personally involved in such things as ticket sales means that Paul McGuinness did not do his job properly. Therefore, I put the blame squarely on him and not on the band. You see if differently. So be it.
thrillme said:Hehe, should I print out the email (from my inbox) and frame it, it has my name on it!
Disagree with me, call me names, whatever, but don't call me a troll. I mean, ick! I feel so dirty.Flying FuManchu said:
Why do I feel so trolled...
jick said:Not Mullen because when he says we, he includes himself. Otherwise he would have said "they."
beli said:JOFO, I just tried to email you an apology in case you read my typoed one in this thread, but you have turned your email option off. Again, my sincere apologies.