In Bono We Trust???

[The Anti-Bono]

http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news.asp?contentID=208581

Bono added, "Oxfam has got it right. It wouldn't cost much to change the rules of trade so that poor countries can work their way out of poverty. But the world's leaders won't act unless they hear enough people telling them. And every day they fail to act, thousands of people die because they can't afford the basics of survival."

Excuse me.
Am I buggin' ya?

Those people have been living in, as Bono says, poverty forever. Is it unfair trade that they want to, and do, buy Coke, Levi's, and other American products that even the American poor can't/don't buy. Ever heard of RC Cola? Unfair trade?

Unfair trade = CAPITALISM

The last I heard, communism, socialism, and facism, weren't working to well.

In life, and economics, there is always a food chain, some are at the top, some in the middle, and some at the bottom. Fortunate or unfortunate... this is the way it works, despite human efforts to change it. Show me an example to prove this otherwise.

I'd like to see Bono's manifesto before anyone else blindly follows him.


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The one,
The only,
The Anti-Bono

 

[sulawesigirl4]

You sound smart.

 

[Screaming Flower]

[No message]

 

[BAW]

blah, blah, blah

 

[The Anti-Bono]

Can't back up your blind following?

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[Desire4Bono]

Maybe he really is Bono.

 

[sulawesigirl4]

yeah, that's it.

 

[Sicy]

Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:
Excuse me.
Am I buggin' ya?

Yes.

 

[Hallelujah Here She Comes]

I don't think Bono suggesting that we do away with capitalism. I just think he's positing that, at some point, concern for humanity becomes more important than safeguarding the integrity of a purely capitalist system. But what do I know?

 

[NicaMom]

I have one question for you...why come to a U2 forum if you're "anti-Bono?


Sicy, is this a code one(troll alert)?

 

[The Anti-Bono]

First off... I'm a bigger U2 fan than you can imagine... and I'm not a newbie here, nor a troll. Just because I question Bono's intent and plans, doesn't give you right to be rude to me.

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[sulawesigirl4]

Unfair trade = when the U.S. is allowed to export their goods to other countries tariff-free (or very low tarriff) and then keeps up their trade barriers to countries wanting to import THEIR products to the U.S. Common sense let alone a course in Economics 101 should teach you this. Thanks and have a nice day.

 

[BAW]

Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:
Can't back up your blind following?

You're making some pretty broad assumptions there aren't you Anti-Bono? It's not like he's leading us over cliff and telling us to jump, right?

And pardon my asking, but why are you here?

 

[Desire4Bono]

Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:
First off... I'm a bigger U2 fan than you can imagine... and I'm not a newbie here, nor a troll. Just because I question Bono's intent and plans, doesn't give you right to be rude to me.

So you mean you're someone we already know?

 

[NicaMom]

Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:
First off... I'm a bigger U2 fan than you can imagine... and I'm not a newbie here, nor a troll. Just because I question Bono's intent and plans, doesn't give you right to be rude to me.

I was rude?
Sorry you feel that way.
Since you're not a troll or a newbie, do you go under another name here?
If you do, why didn't you use it to post this?

I'm just trying to make sense of your post.

 

[LarryMullen's POPAngel]

I've got a headache.

Excuse me while I go jump off that bridge Bono's leading me to.

 

[STING2]

Mr. Anti-BONO,
You say your not a newbie nor a troll, yet your profile shows that you became a member of the forum today, April 18, and you have a total of only 3 posts in your own thread and only thread. Your first thread should be in Free your Mind given its controversy. I'd say your a troll, but it is possible that your a newbie and perhaps do not know any better.

Have a good day.

 

[The Anti-Bono]

Originally posted by sulawesigirl4:
Unfair trade = when the U.S. is allowed to export their goods to other countries tariff-free (or very low tarriff) and then keeps up their trade barriers to countries wanting to import THEIR products to the U.S. Common sense let alone a course in Economics 101 should teach you this. Thanks and have a nice day.

Trade negotiations... that's part of capitalism. 101 yourself.

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[sulawesigirl4]

Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:
Trade negotiations... that's part of capitalism. 101 yourself.

You asked. And thanks, but I've had the class...quite a while ago.

Economic Colonialism. Try that one out for size.

 

[joyfulgirl]

I almost flunked economics so I honestly cannot respond in an informed and intelligent manner...

And I'm not going to jump on your case for disagreeing with Bono's mission because, simply, not everyone agrees with it...

But your original post was a bit antagonistic in tone so you shouldn't be surprised by these responses. And why did you post your disagreement under a new name, especially one called Anti-Bono? You could've just been yourself and raised these questions politely. Perhaps many of us would benefit from a little economics lesson from those who know about these things, so it isn't like just raising the questions alone would bug people--it's your tone and the suggestion that people are blindly following him.

 

[The Anti-Bono]

Originally posted by sulawesigirl4:
You asked. And thanks, but I've had the class...quite a while ago.

Economic Colonialism. Try that one out for size.

I understand colonialism. I also understand idealism. I share the ideals. I question the reality... and the plan/manifesto Bono is following himself.

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[doctorwho]

Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:
First off... I'm a bigger U2 fan than you can imagine... and I'm not a newbie here, nor a troll. Just because I question Bono's intent and plans, doesn't give you right to be rude to me.

And at this point in the conversation, who exactly was rude to you? Some people "yawned" - perhaps indicating that they are tired of rehashing this topic, or perhaps indicating that YOU have not properly elaborated upon your thoughts. And another person stated that she did not think Bono meant to "do away" with capitalism, rather, that there are more important things that require our focus. Ergo, no rude behavior. If you are going to make proclamations and then become easily offended at the slightest hint of a discussion, then I strongly suggest you not post further, regardless of how long you have been a member of this forum.

 

[sulawesigirl4]

Perhaps you'd be so good as to enlighten us on this so-called "manifesto". I have yet to hear Bono refer to it directly.

Oh and for the record, I am staunchly in favor of capitalism. But I am also aware that the playing field is distinctly NOT level and in order for the global economy to function properly and to benefit everyone involved (not just the biggest, richest countries), some adjustments are very likely in order.

 

[Calvin N. Hobbes]

Hey can I buy your screen name?

 

[KhanadaRhodes]

Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:
I'm not a newbie here, nor a troll.

hmmm...you gotta be one or the other. since you registered here today, either you're new to the forum, or another poster hiding behind your lame handle. just because you lurked here for six months doesn't mean you're not a newbie. and your reluctance to answer people's question about this makes me think you're a troll who's afraid of being caught.

 

[mikal]

So when is the new album supposed to come out?

 

[bono_man]

another thom's bitch! geez...how many of us is their now?

were you the frist mikal?

 

[rafmed]

Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:



In life, and economics, there is always a food chain, some are at the top, some in the middle, and some at the bottom. Fortunate or unfortunate... this is the way it works, despite human efforts to change it. Show me an example to prove this otherwise.

If this is the case why to worry?, or post? or anything, let just wait till "the food chain" do his work.
And if this your whole argument to critizice Bono actions, well then sue your economics teacher he robbed you.

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[Angell]

Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:


Those people have been living in, as Bono says, poverty forever. Is it unfair trade that they want to, and do, buy Coke, Levi's, and other American products that even the American poor can't/don't buy. Ever heard of RC Cola? Unfair trade?

In life, and economics, there is always a food chain, some are at the top, some in the middle, and some at the bottom. Fortunate or unfortunate... this is the way it works, despite human efforts to change it.

Granted, there will always be people at the bottom, but the bottom of the chain doesn't necessarily have to starve to death while corrupt leaders misappropriate funds designed to help their country. Unfortunately, such things also have seemed to be the way things work sometimes, but just because a fight is drastically uphill does not mean it shouldn't be fought.

The people he most staunchly defends and seeks to help are those who are hardly wearing a cloth across their hips and seek water in desparation daily, not those who can (and do) buy Coke, Levi's ,etc. Have you seen Bono's book "A String of Pearls"? He's been at this for a long time, he's got a valid point, and I will consider everything has to say....not believe it blindly, but consider it. His words do weigh heavily though, because he has been there, he has done that, and his actions follow up. Anything else?



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[martha]

Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:
Can't back up your blind following?

I'm only following Bono 'cause he's got a cute ass.

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