In Bono We Trust???

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Originally posted by Hallelujah Here She Comes:
I don't think Bono suggesting that we do away with capitalism. I just think he's positing that, at some point, concern for humanity becomes more important than safeguarding the integrity of a purely capitalist system. But what do I know?
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Birth control is widely available for free in many 3rd world countries.

It's proven that the more uneducated the population, the less birth control is used. Thus 3rd world countries have a much higher birth rate, and unfortunately countries like those in Africa with wide spread aids/hiv are only making an already horrid situation worse.

Knowledge is power.
Educate the people.

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The one,
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The Anti-Bono
 
Lets start here! Economics is all based on theoretical models. And in which economics 101 is based on theoretical models in a perfect world. So... If you were to apply your theories in this respect we would have to be talking about a perfect world, in which this is NOT. It wasen't until recently that one of the worlds top economic analysits won the the nobel prize for being able to factor into these models, mathimaticaly, what occures in a NON-perfect world. Even with this "revolution" in modern econimics or since implementation Keynesian economics, economists are still split down the middle 50/50 on what Bono is doing. Is he wrong? or is he write? If people in the government and acadamia, with more PHD's than I have fingers, can't answere that question with at least a majority vote you sure as fuck can't(Anti-Bono). But even the supporters(me) can't say he is write. So... what I'm getting at is that atleast he is DOING SOMETHING instead of analyzing graphs and models sitting on his ass saying wheather it is right or wrong, he is doing something about what he believes is wrong in his heart. Who else have you seen that is in his position in life make such a push to help people as much as he has? Plus doing even get me started on this bull-shit comparison of the evolutionary food chain!
 
Originally posted by NicaMom:
I have one question for you...why come to a U2 forum if you're "anti-Bono?


Sicy, is this a code one(troll alert)?
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Because I am questioning something/someone that so many blindly follow.

I am not saying what I do, or do not, follow.



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The one,
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Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:


The last I heard, communism, socialism, and facism, weren't working to well.
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Actually there are multiple socailist countries that are doing quite well, thank you. Do not err and lump socialists and communists in the same group. And if you wanna get technical about it communisim has never actually been in place. Only Stalininsm, Marxism, Maoism, etc. You're game's a little sloppy playa.



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It's like lotto - you gotta be in it to win it.


Keepin it krunk...
 
Originally posted by Bono's American Wife:
You're making some pretty broad assumptions there aren't you Anti-Bono? It's not like he's leading us over cliff and telling us to jump, right?

And pardon my asking, but why are you here?
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Global economics is a serious matter.
I respect Bono, I respect his efforts.
I respect his idealism.
But what disturbs me: Those following Bono's ass.

Why shouldn't I be here?
Because I question?
Why are you here?



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The one,
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The Anti-Bono
 
I agree with anti-bono...

Capitalism isn't about fairness. Even Communism isn't fair--Russians had to wait in line just for a roll of toilet paper!


There's no such thing as fairness.

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id love adam to perform for me..wearing only cologne and a smile
 
Originally posted by sulawesigirl4:
Perhaps you'd be so good as to enlighten us on this so-called "manifesto". I have yet to hear Bono refer to it directly.

Oh and for the record, I am staunchly in favor of capitalism. But I am also aware that the playing field is distinctly NOT level and in order for the global economy to function properly and to benefit everyone involved (not just the biggest, richest countries), some adjustments are very likely in order.
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I haven't heard his plan/manifesto either! That's my point.

Why are they in order?



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The one,
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The Anti-Bono
 
Originally posted by Bono's American Wife:
Did I say I follow Bono's ass?
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No. But martha did, and there are plenty of others out there!
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The one,
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The Anti-Bono
 
Originally posted by Anti-Bono:
Birth control is widely available for free in many 3rd world countries.

It's proven that the more uneducated the population, the less birth control is used. Thus 3rd world countries have a much higher birth rate, and unfortunately countries like those in Africa with wide spread aids/hiv are only making an already horrid situation worse.

Knowledge is power.
Educate the people
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Or let them die...quickly, the faster the better, right? But what do I know? I?m just a blind follower anyways...

I was about to start another thread to post this, it?s Bono?s speech in that Love Rocks event, Feb 14th. I think I can trust in a man who talks and acts like him. Here it goes:

'Thank you so much.

Right down the hall from beatification comes crucifixion, so I'd better enjoy this moment.

[Explaining Cher's appearance with REM] It's, it's a pretty amazing night. Actually, I was in a lift once, and a gentleman got into the lift. I was there with a stranger, nothing was said, we travelled floors, and a rather cross gentleman had gone out of the lift and turned around before he left and said, 'It's Bono.' (pronouncing it 'Bone-o') And I kind of looked at this little old lady who was in the lift with me and she said, 'That's Sonny Bono, who are you?' So, Cher, that's something I wanted to share with you.

I wanted to thank Michael Eisner and the Entertainment Industry Foundation for honoring me tonight, that is a very, very big deal. And also, my friends who've turned up to back me up, in what is an unnerving occasion, really. REM came out a little bit after U2, but I have always looked up to them and they are just the greatest group and it's extraordinary to see them there. In the last year I've looked across to No Doubt because they came on tour with us, and that is quite a carnival to have on tour with you, I can tell you.

And thank you to everybody really for turning up. Sean Penn is here tonight and I want to mention him because he just got nominated for doing something extraordinary, that is an extraordinary work 'I Am Sam.' I want to thank the band because they let me come, actually, that's one thing. And I would like to thank my darling wife, Ali, for coming out with me tonight. Also, Drew Carey for hosting tonight's event. I know he knows, but I wanted him to know I know also, that whatever they may call tonight's event, it's Cleveland Rocks. It's Cleveland that rocks.

Also, the Cardiovascular Initiative, it is a great thing to be in the room with a lot of doctors, and people who have put their life and energy into something as important as life and death. As life transforming and as life changing as I'd like to think a U2 gig is - it's not that. And I just wanted to say that we are dignified tonight by those people who worked on the Cardiovascular Initiative. We are dignified by them being in the room.

And that in a way is a bit of a problem, because, you know, I'm in a rock and roll band, and the band do think that the stuff I'm doing is really important and they really support it, but they do think it is incredibly unhip. And I just think coming from the rock and roll community I want to say that the right to be ridiculous is something I hold very dear.

But there is one thing I am not sure I am going to live down, just the other week your Secretary of the Treasury, Paul O'Neill, actually referred to me as a serious person. And that's hard - that hurts. I think what he might have meant was a serious pain in the arse. And I certainly was a pain in the arse for the last Secretary of the Treasury, and a thorn in the shoe of this administration, and the next one, I hope.

But they're smart people, they know that it takes people like us to get them to look up from the numbers and put flesh and bones on some awful facts. Like the fact that there are 28 million people in sub-Saharan Africa who are HIV positive and who are about to leave behind 100 million AIDS orphans by the end of the decade. And this looks like the greatest threat to humanity the world has seen since the Bubonic Plague took out about a third of Europe in the Middle Ages. So think for a second what it would have been like if China, say, had had the resources and the technologies to deal with the Bubonic Plague in the Middle Ages, but didn't share them out. Can you imagine what it would feel like now, or how hard the history books would have been on them? Well, that's where we are right now.

And I was in Uganda a couple of weeks ago and met a load of AIDS workers. They are really the heroes, like the NYPD, like the firemen of their situation. They're going from town to town, right, and they are telling people about what's going on with AIDS, and I'm asking a friend, where do they get their passion from? Where do these people get their passion from? And they say, actually, they're HIV positive. And I said. 'What - these people are HIV positive?' Yes, he said, and they know that they cannot afford the dollar a day that would take to save their life. They know that they cannot afford to live. And I want to say to them, and I want to say this evening, that we cannot afford to let them die.

This is not as a moral imperative, we actually financially cannot afford to fill in for the teachers we lose, we cannot afford to look after their children. I mean, I'm actually trying to convince people that it is more expensive to let them die. And that's just one of the facts that we have to put flesh and blood on.

But you know, this is Los Angeles. I don't want to say I just love this city. More people live off their imaginations in this city than anywhere else in this world and, boy, do we need your imagination on these problems. It's true, the American dream was sold to the world from this city, right here. They had the idea but in order to sort of mythologize it they needed Los Angeles. Los Angeles sent out the idea of the American Dream to the rest of the world. And what was at the heart of the American Dream was equality. That's really what was going on - equality. And it's funny, there's a pain in the arse if ever I heard one, you know, equality. That's a really annoying thing to live with.

You know, you think of 2000 years ago, these Jewish sheepherders, walking with shit on their shoes in front of pharaohs and kings and they're being asked: you really think you're equal to me? And these sheepherders are going, yeah, you know, it says here we're equal, yeah, God made everybody equal, actually. And then they go, okay. And then years go by in the journey of equality, and we accept Jews but not black people, I mean, black people are not equal. Okay, black people, we'll have black people in, but not women. Women are not equal, you can't be serious. Okay, well right. And eventually it gets to the place where behind these borders in Europe and America, we have an idea of equality, but what about the rest of the world ?

So, with the same imagination, with the same brilliant minds, here in Los Angeles, can we make the American Dream a little bigger? Can we make it big enough to fit and affect the lives of the poorest of the poor, the wretched people? Eight million people die every year for the price of going out with your friends to the movies and buying an ice cream. Literally for about $30 a head per year, you could save 8 million lives. Isn't that extraordinary? Preventable disease - not calamity, not famine, nothing like that. Preventable disease - just for the lack of medicines. That is cheap, that is a bargain.

But politicians say there are no votes here - they are wrong! I believe in this country, it is a great country, but it is also a great idea, and I would please just ask you to send that message to the politicians. Actually, America's a big enough country to take on that problem. And I promise you this, that for those lives that were lost on September 11th, this is their only fitting memorial. Not just the pursuit of justice, but the pursuit of a less dangerous, safer, fairer, more inclusive world.

Anyway, thank you very much.

What a night! Thank you.'
 
Originally posted by STING2:
Mr. Anti-BONO,
You say your not a newbie nor a troll, yet your profile shows that you became a member of the forum today, April 18, and you have a total of only 3 posts in your own thread and only thread. Your first thread should be in Free your Mind given its controversy. I'd say your a troll, but it is possible that your a newbie and perhaps do not know any better.

Have a good day.
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Thanks for the information. I'm very well aware of when I registered THIS account.

I'm also very well aware of the rules of the forum, and where this thread was 'allowed' to fit into.

Thanks, thanks again.



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The one,
The only,
The Anti-Bono
 
Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:
No. But martha did, and there are plenty of others out there!
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Okay, now you made me smile so I'll let go of a little of my hostility...but can you please tell us who you are??? Please
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Originally posted by The Wanderer:
how come you needed a new username to post all of this?

btw, Shaq is looking good for the playoffs!
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Why not?

I think in this case, it's much more effective not knowing exactly who I am, or what my views ACTUALLY are.



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The one,
The only,
The Anti-Bono
 
Originally posted by Bono's American Wife:
Okay, now you made me smile so I'll let go of a little of my hostility...but can you please tell us who you are??? Please
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I can. But I'm not prepared to yet.

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Glad I made you smile.

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The one,
The only,
The Anti-Bono
 
Originally posted by Calvin N. Hobbes:
Hey can I buy your screen name?
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Make me an offer.
Almost everything in this world is for sale.



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The one,
The only,
The Anti-Bono
 
Originally posted by Bono's American Wife:
You're lovin every minute of this aren't you
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Bono likes attention and to kick people in the arse.
So do I.

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The one,
The only,
The Anti-Bono
 
Originally posted by The Anti-Bono:
Bono likes attention and to kick people in the arse.
So do I.
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*puts on her bitch boots*
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id love adam to perform for me..wearing only cologne and a smile
 
it's true that there would a bias towards you based on your identity, but once you've made your argument/point and this thread has run it's course, why then wouldn't you admit to your original username?

ah fuck, Colorado takes game 1 from LA, Patrick Roy is sucha asshole, guy beats his wife and gets a free pass from the media, if he were a basketball or football player they would have run him out of the game by now...
 
Originally posted by rafmed:
Aren't those your regular ones
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JK
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LMFAO! GOOD ONE



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id love adam to perform for me..wearing only cologne and a smile
 
Originally posted by madamc:
I agree with anti-bono...

Capitalism isn't about fairness. Even Communism isn't fair--Russians had to wait in line just for a roll of toilet paper!


There's no such thing as fairness.
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U2 is Ireland's No. 1 industry.
U2 is Ireland's No. 1 export.
U2 pays NO INCOME tax.
Robinhood was poor, and took from the rich.
Bono alone is more rich than most of the rich.



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The one,
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The Anti-Bono
 
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