Images in U2 songs (relating U2 to schoolwork part 2)

[SkeeK]

A very large part of the OAC art course at my school (more than 50% of final mark) is to develop a portfolio of 6 or more works which must all express a personal theme that remains consistent throughout your studio works...

So, faced with coming up with a theme.. I decided I must relate this (as with all things) to U2. and (cue drumroll) here is my theme statement:

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Each painting will specifically represent a few lines of lyrics from a particular song. Beyond that, I will try and make the paintings reflect the song as a whole?both the musical nature of the song, and the lyrics as a whole. Due to my musical inclinations, it would be reasonable to assume that most of the subject matter will come from U2 songs. By nature, U2 songs have vague, non-specific lyrics that could be interpreted in many ways, so the interpretations will often be up to me, and based on my personal response to the song. I wish to demonstrate the value of music beyond simply listening to it; and show through my own experience how the meaning and feeling of songs can vary from person to person and communicate the great emotional force that I feel (good) music constitutes but in a non-musical way.
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Of course the next step is coming up with songs to use. Right now, the one that I have the strongest image in my head for is
Where The Streets Have No Name
specifically I want to run/I want to hide/I want to tear down the walls/That hold me inside/I want to reach out/And touch the flame
For this I will depict a person reaching out into a new frame (a line from the song sometimes used when performed live) literally.. the frame he's in will be full of dust and darkness, while the one he is reaching into will be bright.

That's the most specific idea I have right now. Other songs that I'm really wanting to use (I will probably go past the minimum of 6 studio works when all is said and done)

Walk To The Water
Stay
Wake Up Dead Man
A Sort of Homecoming
Bad
So Cruel
Running to Stand Still

I would like to do In A Little While just because I love the song so much, but I'm not having any inspiration as to what the song would look like.

For most of the songs I see people in situations reflected in the lyrics of the song.. perhaps an addict on the streets for Bad, and a sad face in front of a terrible scene for Wake Up Dead Man (Jesus, were just around the corner/did you think to try and warn her/were you working on something new?/is there an order in all of this disorder?...)

And I will of course have to have a name for my show.. I'm thinking right now probably Dream Out Loud, or Dreaming Out Loud or something like that.

Anyway, if anyone has anything that would conceivably serve as a suggestion of some sort feel free to post it here. I will post updates when I come up with concrete ideas for stuff and possibly pictures of the works eventually. I was originally going to have a website for all this, and might get one at some point but i have no skill with ye olde html.

 

[SkeeK]

A little addendum, I gave a rough draft of my theme statement to my art teacher and she thought it was a really good idea and said "during the actual art show, you'll have to have the songs playing"

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WOooHooOo

Who would have thought I'd have a teacher telling me to play U2 songs in class without me suggesting it?

 

[Bonochick]

Originally posted by SkeeK:
And I will of course have to have a name for my show.. I'm thinking right now probably Dream Out Loud, or Dreaming Out Loud or something like that.

I think one of those would make a great title. It sounds like a great project!

Don't you love mixing U2 with school? I have to do a PowerPoint presentation on multimedia, and I'm going to use "Elevation" as my background music. My only problem is deciding which version of it to use.

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Trust In God...But Lock Your Doors

 

[Bonochick]

Originally posted by SkeeK:
A little addendum, I gave a rough draft of my theme statement to my art teacher and she thought it was a really good idea and said "during the actual art show, you'll have to have the songs playing"

Wow! This project of yours just got even cooler!!!

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Trust In God...But Lock Your Doors

 

[SkeeK]

Use the Vandit Club Mix of Elevation!! hehe.

I just decided that another good song would be Mothers of the Disappeared, and relate it to the real world situation and all. Midnight/Our sons and daughers/cut down, taken from us

 

[SkeeK]

Some further ideas (which will incidentally be submitted to my teacher tomorrow):

- Where the Streets Have No Name ?I want to run/I want to hide/I want tear down the walls that hold me inside/I want to reach out and touch the flame/where the streets have no name/? this song to me expresses wanting to come out of a situation and ?break through into a new frame? as Bono sometimes sings when performing the song live. To represent this I would show someone reaching out literally into a new frame like in a comic book, the frame he is in is dark and dusty, but the other is sunny.
- Wake Up Dead Man ?Jesus, were you just around the corner?/did you think to try and warn her?/ or were you working on something new?/Is there an order in all of this disorder??. This song demonstrates not being able to understand the seemingly random tragedies that beset all of us. I would represent this pictorially by showing a saddened face in the foreground with a scene of mayhem behind, perhaps a car accident behind.
- Bad ?If I could throw this/Lifeless lifeline to the wind/Leave this heart of clay/See you walk, walk away? here I would think of depicting someone on the street amidst garbage, malnourished and scarred, looking with a faint glimmer of hope out of the painting. This doesn?t go directly with what the song is about?heroin addiction, but to me the scene I picture is perhaps a metaphor for what is going on in the mind of an addict
- Walk To The Water ?I'm looking through your window/I'm walking through your doorway/I'm on the outside/Let me in/Let me love you? Someone sitting, dejected on a porch beneath a dark window, while at the other side of the house is a lit window.
-Stay (Faraway, So Close) ?Dressed up like a car crash/Your wheels are turning but you're upside down? an interesting lyric to interpret. I know I really want to paint this one, but I don?t yet have any idea what it means! I will figure it out eventually.
-Running to Stand Still ?Step on a steam train/Step out of the driving rain, maybe/Run from the darkness in the night?. The idea of running from the darkness in the night has always intrigued me, it is a metaphor that I would explore in a painting. The steam trains and driving rain would figure into the painting somehow, even though they are metaphorical as well.
-So Cruel ?Oh love...like a screaming flower/Love...dying every hour...love? The whole song tells a vivid story of a man in an almost masochistic relationship with a woman who treats him like mud, but that serves to make him want her more. I?ve always seen visions in my head of screaming flowers.
-A Sort of Homecoming ?The city walls are all come down/The dust, a smoke screen all around/See faces ploughed like fields that once/Gave no resistance? The words of this song are very poignant in light of the recent tragedy in New York, the song represents a reflective mournful mood, and a determination to rebuild.
-Please ?Shards of glass/Splinters like rain/But you could only feel/Your own pain? This song speaks of arrogantness and refusing to see the other side of an argument. Someone in a fit of rage throwing a rock through a beautiful stained glass window.
-In A Little While is one of my favourite songs of all time, and I would really want to work with it in some way, but any sort of inspiration in the form of what it is I would paint is very lacking.
-Bullet the Blue Sky ?Across the field you see the sky ripped open/See the rain through a gaping wound/Pelting the women and children/Who run/Into the arms/Of America? One of the more angry U2 songs, exploring the negative effect of American commercialism on less developed countries (I think that?s what it is at least). Not exactly sure how to represent this, but it would be interesting to work with, there is very strong imagery in the lyrics
-Mothers of the Disappeared ?Midnight, our sons and daughters/Were cut down and taken from us/Hear their heartbeat/We hear their heartbeat? This song was written about the mothers in Chile whose children were taken from them by Pinochet. A very dark song, an old woman with a great sadness in her heart, thinking of where her son might be.

Many of these ideas and the actual subject matter I will use will probably morph slightly or entirely before actually being painted. Also, It is becoming apparent that only a few songs have a line or two of lyrics that reflect what I want to express, so maybe I will give up on trying to find specific lines, or maybe I will find specific lines that scream to be painted.

 

[The_Sweetest_Thing]

Actor AND a painter? I learn something new every day...u surprise me...

Anyway, I love all the ideas so far--especially Streets. And Bullet has some good themes as well
In the howling wind/comes a stinging rain/
See it driving nails/Into the souls on the tree of pain/From the firefly, a red orange glow/See the face of fear/Running scared in the valley below///You plant a demon seed/
You raise a flower of fire/See them burning crosses/See the flames higher and higher///
--American culture...it's strong...DEFINTELY KEEP THIS SONG!
HMTMKMKM has some good lines too--dealing with Pop culture and celebrity. ISHFWILF evokes some images as well..as well as Miss Sarajevo (images of beauty in war?)

U never should have gotten me on a lyric discussion...we could be here for hrs...Staring at the Sun (I think I just love this song b/c I don't quite understand the lyrics yet), SBS (Broken bottles under children/s feet/), WGRYWH (Oh, the deeper I spin/Oh, the hunter will sin for your ivory skin/Took a drive in the dirty rain/To a place where the wind calls your name/Under the trees the river laughing at you and me/Hallelujah, heavens white rose/
The doors you open/I just can't close//), IGWSHA (SO many in there..I can't even write down all the lyric/images)...
why can't I do these assignments? Why am I cursed with calculus instead? *sigh* math...
ANyway, keep me posted. I'd love to hear more about it. I'd love 2 see the finished product

 

[SkeeK]

I really want to do bullet. It has a great tone and I can see lots of bright reds and olive greens and darkness. I'm not sure what exactly one would paint to go along with the song, though.

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[UV2001]

Cool.Have fun.U2 are the main part of my life.They get in everywhere.

 

[SicilianGoddess]

Sounds way cool SkeeK! I like "Dreaming Out Loud".

I also really like MLK as a soft meaningful song.

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[SkeeK]

Here is the comments I got on my theme statement.. which is in fragmentary form in previous messages on the thread. I got 5/5 on it and it is worth 5% of the final mark.. which means that is my guaranteed lowest art mark! sshaawiiing!!!

"This is a wonderful idea. The lettering style, the words themselves, the placement of the words in the composition will be as important as the pictoral images"

"Try for very unique images to portray these lyrics"

and she liked the idea of screaming flowers.

 

[sharky]

For Bullet I'm seeing lots of red too. Maybe Bono a la ZooTV standing with his arms outstretched and all hell breaking lose around him.

And can I say how cool it is to use U2 for class projects? I've done it several times before-- including writing about the parallels between Who's Gonna Ride and Dante's Inferno. So cool!

Good luck SkeeK!

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"Things will not be the same in this city for us." -Bono, Dublin, February 1980

 

[Nancy]

Great idea, Skeek! U2 is your muse

I wonder if you can scan some of your artwork when you finish and post it here?

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[SkeeK]

We need our first prep sketch for next thursday, I think I will do Love like a screaming flower, love dying every hour.

 

[SkeeK]

Originally posted by Nancy:
Great idea, Skeek! U2 is your muse

I wonder if you can scan some of your artwork when you finish and post it here?

Don't worry I plan to (although it might be large enough that digital photography will be much more practical) as well as posting my prep sketches and pictures of my entire set up etc.

 

[SkeeK]

Presenting...
LOVE... LIKE A SCREAMING FLOWER
LOVE... DYING EVERY HOUR
Prep sketch numero uno:

Comments, praise, criticisms are all welcome, especially the latter because truth be told I really think this needs some work.

 

[HeartlandGirl]

Hello again, SkeeK!

So I'm feeling inspired by your project and thought I'd make some suggestions so that you might could come up with a way to do In A Little While.

First some of the cooler lyrics...

"When the night takes a deep breath
And the daylight has no air"

"In a little while
I won't be blown by every breeze
Friday night running to Sunday on my knees"

"A man dreams one day to fly
A man takes a rocket ship into the skies
He lives on a star that's dying in the night
And follows in the trail, the scatter of light"

All of these lend themselves to graphic interpretations. Maybe to capture the idea of the song, you could have a man in space (on a star maybe?) and have him sitting in anticipation. Maybe he's looking at a calendar, his watch, or a clock, thinking of what he'll be doing "In a little while"...

I think the song is about anticipation overall, and maybe you could use that along with some of the stranger images from the song.

Anyway, feel free to reject all those ideas or elaborate on them. They may be lame, but it's past my bedtime, so that's what I'll blame it on. Keep us updated!

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[tchlowlife]

personally I feel that Lemon, and Wake UP Deadman, or two of the best "image" producing tracks..
and much of Unforgettable fire, maybe even Shadows and Tall Trees..

I am also an artist, and much of my work has been coming from Nick Cave, you may want to check his stuff out..

 

[sharky]

that sketch rocks Skeek, especially the lyrics in the background. although i looked like a moron at work turning my head sideways to read the lyrics. its a great idea but made me look stupid. oh well.

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"Things will not be the same in this city for us." -Bono, Dublin, February 1980

 

[SkeeK]

i'm definately thinking the background needs work. The lyrics I will keep, but there should be something there other than just random squiggles and the almost hidden text. I'm not sure how hidden it is, since i know it's there.. having put it there and all.


Thanks for the comments HG, those are the kind that make my day... even if i don't like the ideas i can still get something from them. I'm really keen on the line "when the night takes a deep breath/and the daylight has no air" because that is how I feel (i find the night to be very wonderful and inspiring compared to the day). I'm not right now seeing any image relating to that quote in my head, or really connection to the whole anticipation thing. Hopefully I will have some sort of revelation at some point.

The other songs that I'm really keen on coming up with images for right now are Stay and Running to Stand Still

 

[unforgettableFOXfire]

Since you won't talk to me on ICQ, I'll make sure you pay attention to me here (seeing as youre addicted to interference and all).

This may seem a little off base, I know it will sound stupid, but we're all trying to help you brainstorm and as one of your friends I shall do my part as well. 'when the night ... / daylight ...' I read that and I envision a nightscape, not even scenery, just total darkness, possibly with a streak of light breaking through. It is interesting to decide how night breathes yet daylight has no air... If you could pull this off I bet youd get an insanely good art mark again ... Another possibility I came up with, aside from darkness intaking light was actually I had one idea that was somewhat sexual in nature, Im not entirely sure how much you can get away with so you can persue me later if you would like to hear it.

Anyways, I will continue to add to this as I reread all of the other posts, and perhaps have more revelations which may be other people's building blocks in our quest to bring a totally amazing idea (the whole art show U2 thing) to life.

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You could undoubtedly choose many more songs, since U2 has quite an impressive repetoire of very deep, very powerful songs. However just in passing thought, I wonder if some things may have been overlooked or if indeed I can actually help by suggesting new topics.

My 2 latest ideas, in the past 5 minutes, were; sweetest thing - 'blue skies up ahead/ ... rain cloud' and then either the portion about 'stormy kind of love' or 'dry kind of love'. The trick there would be how exactly to depict love, and how to balance the blue vs the storming...

One Tree Hill (wow I love this song); 'sun is so bright it leaves no shadow, only scars / carved into stone on the face of earth / the moon is up over one tree hill' ... 'in our world a heart of darkness, a firezone' ... 'bullets rape the night of the merciful' ... 'when the stars fall from the sky / and the moon has turned red over one tree hill' => there is some really powerful stuff in here, you can get lots of images out of it Im sure. Remember, message me if you want any more of my crappy suggestions... lol!


Possibly to be edited later (assuming everyone doesnt think my ideas are total crap)... haha!

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[SkeeK]

Wow, I never really thought of the Sweetest Thing lyrics, that is some really neat imagery! And I was just thinking about One Tree Hill the other day as well. I love hearing ideas even if they are stupid and dumb, because in every dumbness there is a glimmer of not so dumbness

Then again what do your ideas count for, you're a NEWBIE!!

 

[UnforgettableLemon]

Skeek, you've provided me with the inspiration to get off my lazy ass and basically do some painting myself, haven't done it for so long.

I think the line, "And the storm blows up in her eyes" from RTSS could be very cool.

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The King has spoken!

PLEBA- You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Tpyos skcu

 

[UnforgettableLemon]

Also, Exit is LOADED with powerful imagery.

Maybe too literal though.

But then there's
"He went deeper into black, deeper into white, he could see the stars shine like nails in the night"

 

[SkeeK]

Originally posted by UnforgettableLemon:

I think the line, "And the storm blows up in her eyes" from RTSS could be very cool.

Good call!!! why didn't I think of this before?

 

[UnforgettableLemon]

I wouldn't have thought of it myself if I wasn't listening to it right now.

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The King has spoken!

PLEBA- You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Tpyos skcu

 

[UnforgettableLemon]

From "Stay",

A vampire or a victim, it depends on who's around

 

[SkeeK]

I always loved the line "run from the darkness IN the night" but that last verse now that I look at it, is definately probably the most visual


She runs through the streets
With her eyes painted red
Under black belly of cloud in the rain
In through a doorway she brings me
White gold and pearls stolen from the sea
She is raging
She is raging
And the storm blows up in her eyes
She will...

 

[UnforgettableLemon]

Just the title of the song, if you could visualize it, would be really cool.

 

[unforgettableFOXfire]

TTYW: 'still shaking, still in pain, you put me back together again' & 'angel, angel or devil'

you could have a man, bruised/battered however you wish, with a puzzle peice missing from his face, and then an angel with a devils tail holding the peice and going to aid him?

just a thought




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