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Old 11-24-2004, 08:19 AM   #1
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HTDAAB: Better than JT?

From the USA Today:

"Atomic Bomb is U2's best album, eclipsing not only Achtung Baby and The Joshua Tree, but a good many 20th-century holy grails and prematurely anointed classics of the new millennium. U2 stands as rock's lone superpower, not after constantly defeating its challengers, but by constantly challenging itself."

Does anyone believe in this or is this just blind worship by a writer who is probably an Interference member? Looks like many here are quick to blow the whistle on reviewers who have great bias against U2. But I'd also like to blow the whistle on those who are overly biased for U2. Let me know what you think of those comments above.

I honesty don't think U2 will ever make an album that can surpass JT.

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Old 11-24-2004, 08:23 AM   #2
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Nothing can be better than perfect.
So nothing can be better than JT either.
It's simple.
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Old 11-24-2004, 08:25 AM   #3
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I still ask anyone caught up in the new album hype to sit quietly, put on some headphones, and listen top to bottom to both Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby, and then tell me the new one is better.

You cannot (seriously, anyway).
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HTDAAB is amazing but not as good as Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby. In fact, if I was ranking my top 5 favorite albums I would rank it 5th....

1. Joshua Tree
2. Achtung Baby
3. Pop
4. The Unforgetable Fire
5. HTDAAB
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'New album hype" makes great things. It even makes the new album sound better.
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It's in my top 3...but not yet better than JT imo
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only time will tell...
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Nah, Atom Bomb is damn good but not brilliant. It lacks timeless classics JT had like Where the streets and With or without you. I highly doubt that if they continue to tour a few tours later they will still play anything from this album.
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:03 AM   #9
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Even a year from now it won't be better than JT (or AB). I think songs like COBL, Sometimes, & MD may become classics after the tour though. I can see everyone singing "Oh You Look So Beautiful Tonight" with their hands in the air...
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I think they will play a couple from this album, if they do still tour in a few years time.
COBLY/OOTS being the 2 obvious ones for me.
Of course it all depends on what they play from it on this tour.

I can only see Beautiful Day and Kite being played from ATYCLB this time around. Maybe rotating with SIAMYCGOO and Walk On.


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Better than Joshua Tree?
Maybe.
Better tahn Achtung?
NO way.

All in all, I think it's the strongest U2 album ever in terms of the number of great songs, but as of yet there are more single standout perfections on Achtung, War and such.

You'll have to define what a good album is:
A few fantastic songs with good back-ups,
or great all the way without standouts.

Other than that, I miss newness.
U2 hasn't got a new sound on this one, like they did with All That You Can't Leave Behind or Achtung Baby or Joshua Tree.
It's not bothering me that much, but I have a tendancy of imagining what a new sound may had sounded like. How big it would have been.
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Old 11-24-2004, 10:12 AM   #12
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listening to the unreleased stuff ...

they still have the spark of creativity ...

it is the production that is letting them down.

but ... it's what they want. so who am i to complain.
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Well... as a person who likes, but doesn't love JT, yes, HTDAAB easily surpasses that album.

Does it surpass AB? As of this moment, no. AB does have one horrid song on it, but the others are so brilliant that "mistake" is forgiven. In contrast, there are no horrid songs on HTDAAB. But overall, I feel AB still is superior. Opinions change though...
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to me the new album blows everything else they've ever done out of the water. and i love all the other stuff. joshua tree is great, but this is easily better to me. it's just more exciting. i love how loud the guitar is in the mix, and every member of the band delivers on every song. there is not a single bad song on this album. it's just awesome.
and having read a lot of reviews on this album, i don't see how you can say anything negative about it. it amazes me that this is so much better than ATYCLB (i liked that too, but this is so much better).
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There is no way the it ranks any higher than #3 on the album list, but time is the ultimate judge for the quality of an album. I'd say that we need a few years to go by to say exactly how "good" HTDAAB is.
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I'll already say that it's better than The Unforgettable Fire. But the Joshua Tree? I think it takes many more listens to determine that kind of trophy.
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Yup, there isn't song as weak as Elvis Presley and America on this album.
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It's more direct than Unforgettable Fire. I think that album had potential, had a great start, all that. But I don't know if it had as many great/good songs as the new album has. For now, "Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own" has to be my favorite. I'd say it has instant classic all over it.
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EP and A is a beautiful song!!! its just a little unfinished.

on topic: not better than the Joshua Tree...not yet.
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I don't think this album will ever reach the status of The Joshua Tree or ever be as "classic" as the album, but I think that song for song, this album MIGHT, and I emphasize the word "might" be better than the Joshua Tree. The first FIVE songs on TJT are classics, but the rest are just great, only a couple fall just short of great (Exit=poor production and Trip Through your Wires)

HTDAAB has at least FIVE classic songs (Miracle Drug, Sometimes, LAPOE (rivals Bullet), City of Blinding Lights, and OOTS (though i haven't quite clicked with this one yet, I just KNOW it's classic.)) The rest are all GREAT songs, especially with Crumbs and All Because of You bordering on classic. Add in Fast Cars and it's got a darn good chance of being a better album than TJT, but of course no one will ever admit it.

thanks for the time,

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