Hold me BACK! Critic Dave Marsh says Bono "practices evil"

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BALLAD OF THE SUN AND THE MOON
>
> I can pinpoint the nadir of rock music's first half-century: That wire
> service picture of Bono standing with U.S. Treasury Secretary Paul
> O'Neill, the two of them wearing local African costumes somewhere in
> Africa. Bono'is idiocy is here complete, since the most beknighted
> tourist with a skin full of rum would know better than to allow this
> shot to circulate. But tourists are, for the most part, innocent of much
> beyond blind pursuit of pleasure. With his African junket alongside
> O'Neill, Bono practices actual evil. The trip's purpose is to endorse
> the power of rich nations to control the fate of poor ones, so long as
> the occasional bone is thrown.
>
> The junket also enhances the image of one of the rottenest characters in
> the Bush regime. Next time he goes to Jamaica, Bono might take a jaunt
> around Jamaica to see firsthand the depradations of Alcoa's bauxite
> mining O'Neill ran Alcoa for 12 years. Before that he ran
> International Paper, devastating much of the Black Belt of the southern
> United States. That is, O'Neill played a major role in defiling the
> places where both the blues and reggae were born.
>
> Bono portrays himself as the latest in a line of rock daredevils trying
> to change the world. In reality, eerything Bono does-starting with his
> support of the Irish and English governments-- attempts to *stabilize*
> the world, freezing the globe's poor into subservience.
>
> All the rockers who changed-and are changing-the world go about it
> differetntly. Instead of spending their time pretending not to suck up
> to power at its most loathsome, they make music that delves into their
> own lives and the lives of the people they love. Those who truly work
> for a different kind of world use their talent and fame to tell the
> stories that aren't being told anywhere else. They make records like
> Alejandro Escovedo's By the Hand of the Father (Texas Music Group).
>
> The album, based on a stage play Escovedo cowrote, offers beautiful,
> haunting music, using strings as well as guitars to offset rock riffs.
> Although a couple of the songs ("The Ballad of the Sun and the Moon,"
> "With These Hands") appear on earlier Escovedo albums, much of the best
> music is either score, with cello as the lead instrument, or versions
> of specific Mexican idioms. ("Mexicano Americano" raves on regardless.)
>
> The first time I ever heard Alejandro, he sang Woody Guthrie's
> "Deportees," the great ballad of the migrant farmworker. By the Hand of
> the Father sometimes feels like a first-hand expansion of that story,
> but a lot of it is tied up in issues as quotidian as homesickness, the
> hope of romance and the agony when life ruins it. That is, it is the
> life of the migrant made nearly universal-so universal that the detailed
> differences glare unmistakably from the tapestry.
>
> Escovedo never stops noticing how poor these people-his people-are. That
> fact carries the weight of all his tales. But he puts his finger on the
> issue just once: "You see the wicked prowl across the border / They say
> death's the only peace the poor understand."
>
> This is not anybody trying to "speak truth to power." It's a recognition
> that the powerful know the truth and that part of the truth is that
> nobody knows much at all about the poor as human individuals, and that
> if you're poor enough, making a living from one day to the next may come
> to constitute a legitimate triumph. Those two bare lines contain all the
> things you never learn sitting in conference rooms and traveling from
> town to town with a potentate's entourage.
>
> Alejandro Escovedo speaks the power OF truth. Rock music cannot tell all
> of it, but for millions, all of it cannot be told any longer without
> rock, and the music that came after it, and the music that came before
> it. It certainly cannot be told while standing in the shadows, smirking
> an implicit endorsement of the way things are.
>
> Deskscan (expanded to 15 because everybody imitating it is only doing
> ten and anyhow, there's a lot of great stuff out there right now):
> 1. The Eminem Show, Eminem (Universal) [Not just Detroit chauvinism; the
> boy _does_ get it about bass lines, he's smart and funny and who says
> you have to hate everyone he hates, such as himself.]
> 2. Human Being Lawnmower: The Baddest & Maddest of the MC5 (Total
> Energy) [I keep thinking there must be some exaggeration here, but these
> live tracks, outtakes, exhortations, do add up to a great document. Not
> to be missed: John Sinclair's liner notes in which he declares that Rob
> Tyner had more political influence on him than he did on Rob and that
> this stuff has nothing to do with punk.]
> 3. 1000 Kisses, Patty Griffin (ATO)
> 4. By the Hand of the Father, Alejandro Escovedo (Texas Music Group)
> 5. "This Land is Nobody's Land," John Lee Hooker (from Real Folk
> Blues/More Real Folk Blues, Chess/MCA)
> 6. Mundo, Ruben Blades (Columbia advance)
> 7. You're Gonna Need That Pure Religion, Rev. Pearly Brown (Arhoolie)
> 8. Tonight at Johnny's Speakeasy, Jo Serrapere & the Willie Dunns
> (Detroit Radio Co., www.joserrapere.com)
> 9. All Over Creation, Jason Ringenberg (Yep Roc)
> 10. Return of a Legend, Jody Williams (Evidence)
> 11. Try Again, Mike Ireland and Holler (Ashmont)
> 12. Milky White Way: The Legendary Recordings 1947-1952, The Trumpeteers
> (P-Vine)
> 13. Talk About It, Nicole C. Mullen (Word/Epic)
> 14. The Beat of Love, Trilok Gurtu (Blue Thumb)
> 15. 2 Johnsons are Better Than One, Syl & Jimmy Johnson



*Counts to ten. Thousand.*

Cheryl
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I should have stopped reading after this:

Sherry Darling said:
The trip's purpose is to endorse
the power of rich nations to control the fate of poor ones, so long as the occasional bone is thrown.
 
omg. *tries to hold back from torrent of angry vitriol*

breathe, breathe, breathe.

the man is obviously a low-life not worth the paper he's printed on.

gah.
 
This is less an argument against Bono than it is some writer gushing about Alejandro Escovedo's music. So the guy writes music that speaks about the poor. La-de-freaking-da

Basically this guys entire argument is "Those who truly work for a different kind of world use their talent and fame to tell the stories that aren't being told anywhere else. They make records like Alejandro Escovedo's By the Hand of the Father (Texas Music Group). "

So wait a minute, people who just make good socially aware records do more good than those who actually spend time apart from their music careers to talk with politicians, meet with the poor and discuss problems in a real and concrete way that can bring real and concrete solutions? Forget about actually trying to bring about real change, just sing about it?

LMAO.
 
See, there are criticisms of U2 and/or Bono that I take seriously, because I can see some truth in what the person is saying ... even if I don't agree with it.

And then, there are criticisms like this. That I honestly laugh at, and then immediately forget about. Because they contain statements that are just so patently false that all other content ceases to be valid by default. He lost me with this:

"With his African junket alongside O'Neill, Bono practices actual evil. The trip's purpose is to endorse the power of rich nations to control the fate of poor ones, so long as the occasional bone is thrown."

And got me laughing with this:

"In reality, everything Bono does-starting with his support of the Irish and English governments-- attempts to *stabilize* the world, freezing the globe's poor into subservience."

Oh, dude. Yeah, this guy's a winner. If I had a paper, he would so be writing for it.
 
You know, I've changed my mind. I agree with Dave Marsh. Bono's evil. Check it out.

Evil Things Bono's Done.

1. Met with Jesse Helms. Enough said.

2. Met with the Pope, who he should know is the anti-christ.

3. Speaking out against and raising money to fight AIDS. Doesn't he know it's God's judgemen of them? He should let 'em die.

4. Tried to get Sellafield shut down. It's in England, so it's none of his business, and shutting it down would cost a lot of money.

SD
 
Instead of spending their time pretending not to suck up to power at its most loathsome, they make music that delves into their own lives and the lives of the people they love. Those who truly work for a different kind of world use their talent and fame to tell the stories that aren't being told anywhere else.

bahrharhh!! :mad:

this is where *I* stopped reading.. he wants evil?! I'll show him evil!! :evil: arrrggg

seriously, what a moron :rolleyes:
 
Sherry, my darling; when I first read the title of your post this thought popped into my head: "But Dave Marsh is an asshole! Always was, always will be." Then I read (most of) the article you posted. Yup, he's touting an obscure artist with all the influence of an obscure artist. AND offering excuses for Eminem's bigotry. (Which Robert Hilburn also did recently.) Not many people pay attention to Dave Marsh anymore. Let's join that group.
 
I wonder what Dave Marsh has ever done to make the world a better place to live in. It's easy to sit on your butt and criticize Bono for associating with people like Jesse Helms (OK, I admit, that kind of threw me for a loop too at first) and Paul O'Neil, but it takes real guts to go out and do what Bono is doing, knowing he is bound to get all kinds of grief for it. I think it's great that Bono is willing to work with people he may not agree with politically or philosophically in order to achieve the greater good. I think a lot of politicians could learn something from his attitude.
 
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Alejandro Escovedo is wonderful. I saw him perform a couple of years ago to an audience of only about 25 people because hardly anyone outside of the local Texas alternative country music scene has ever heard of him. But he is beautiful. Don't let Dave Marsh keep you from giving him a listen if you get the chance. The rest isn't even worth commenting on.
 
LOL. I stopped reading where he talks about Bono being the "latest" in a line of celebrities....yep, this whole jumping on the activism bandwagon is such a new experience for Bono...


Give me a physical break! :rolleyes:

That right there showed me this guy doesn't know sh*t from shinola.
 
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