Firstly, thanks to namkcuR. I appreciate the support, and I naturally second the post.
You could've just called me out by name. I really don't mind that. Not that I believe I've been trolling at all, though. The funny part is people post far more inflammatory shit in threads about the current tour, Elevation tour, pre-UF albums, new album, etc., but rarely are they actually accused of trolling. On the other hand, I post my opinion of Achtung Baby, backing those thoughts up with explanations of the logic behind them, and I'm accused of trolling! It's also funny how people here can reasonably disagree over, say, Angel Of Harlem - some people like it, some don't, but no-one gets into a fight or throws insults - but if anything negative is said about the Zoochtung period, there's a collective "OMG you're a nut" attitude from some parts of Interference.
I was under the impression that messageboards are where people discuss opinions and ideas - including opposing ones. Part of the reason some people seem to think EYKIW sucks at the moment is because there's no good debate and exchange of ideas. I really don't think the discussion here should be shut down.
In any case, what you just said are the very arguments pro-Vertigo Tour people have tried to use to shut down setlist bitching on the tour forum, and yet the bitchers pretty much have free reign. They continue to post. As long as they are allowed their negative opinion of the Vertigo Tour, I feel I should be allowed my opinion that Achtung Baby is not deserving of the idolisation it receives on this forum. As namkcuR said, I believe UTEOTW, The Fly, Acrobat, and LIB are masterpieces, I like Zoo Station, WGRYWH was great live, and let's face it, EBTTRT and Mysterious Ways are good fun. Doesn't sound like the opinion of a troll trying to stir up shit, does it? I'm just trying to offer a perspective rarely heard on this forum - that Achtung Baby isn't the god of albums and that I feel U2 should not have chosen that exact direction (moreso with the tour than the album).
KhanadaRhodes said:some people need to stop trolling.
You could've just called me out by name. I really don't mind that. Not that I believe I've been trolling at all, though. The funny part is people post far more inflammatory shit in threads about the current tour, Elevation tour, pre-UF albums, new album, etc., but rarely are they actually accused of trolling. On the other hand, I post my opinion of Achtung Baby, backing those thoughts up with explanations of the logic behind them, and I'm accused of trolling! It's also funny how people here can reasonably disagree over, say, Angel Of Harlem - some people like it, some don't, but no-one gets into a fight or throws insults - but if anything negative is said about the Zoochtung period, there's a collective "OMG you're a nut" attitude from some parts of Interference.
you don't like achtung baby? fantastic. you think it's overrated? great. you think the album should've never been made? awesome. keep the opinion to yourself if you come across these sorts of threads, as what you're doing is trolling, and it's getting old.
I was under the impression that messageboards are where people discuss opinions and ideas - including opposing ones. Part of the reason some people seem to think EYKIW sucks at the moment is because there's no good debate and exchange of ideas. I really don't think the discussion here should be shut down.
In any case, what you just said are the very arguments pro-Vertigo Tour people have tried to use to shut down setlist bitching on the tour forum, and yet the bitchers pretty much have free reign. They continue to post. As long as they are allowed their negative opinion of the Vertigo Tour, I feel I should be allowed my opinion that Achtung Baby is not deserving of the idolisation it receives on this forum. As namkcuR said, I believe UTEOTW, The Fly, Acrobat, and LIB are masterpieces, I like Zoo Station, WGRYWH was great live, and let's face it, EBTTRT and Mysterious Ways are good fun. Doesn't sound like the opinion of a troll trying to stir up shit, does it? I'm just trying to offer a perspective rarely heard on this forum - that Achtung Baby isn't the god of albums and that I feel U2 should not have chosen that exact direction (moreso with the tour than the album).