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Old 08-30-2002, 03:35 AM   #21
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Well its hard to get old and stay relevant to whats happening around you.U2 are the undisputed champions in this dept.Maybe things like this keeps me being a fan, rather than melodies and hooks
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I would say yes too,I just read at U2.com that Bono gave a dj friend a copy of Electric storm as a wedding gift.What did he think would happen?Hmmm.........
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I dunno...if that's true then why was there the infamous "silence" on FM2 radio when they supposabely played ES? And why was Island reportedly pissed of at the song leaking out?

Surely they talk this kind of thing over with the record company...
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I dunno...if that's true then why was there the infamous "silence" on FM2 radio when they supposabely played ES? And why was Island reportedly pissed of at the song leaking out?

Surely they talk this kind of thing over with the record company...
I'd say it's because Bono/U2 may not really care what the record company thinks. But that's just a theory.
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I don't know that they plan them per se. But they obviously expect them and don't do too much about them.
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If the band WANTED to get snippets or "leaks" out into the public, why would they pretend it was 'leaked'? Why not just post in on their website? Give it to a DJ or two, and say "here you go, a snippet/demo of our next song"

What purpose would it serve, to pretend they didn't really want it to get out?
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I can't speak for pre-ATYCLB...but that album was most certainly not intentionally leaked.

As for Electrical Storm: Paul McGuiness "flipped his lid" when he heard it was leaked--that is, until Bono admitted it was by him That should indicate something.

These conspiracy theories are always a bit foolish. U2 are the biggest band in the world, if not in size then in media coverage and visibility. It shouldn't be surprising in the least that many of their official releases are upstaged by less-than-official ones.
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I'll keep this brief...
While the 30sec clips of Discotheque and Wakeup Deadman were from a video promo... EPK (electronic promo kit), the full version of Discotheque was leaked.... to a DJ, which at the time, I knew through a friend.... and is how Interference.com leaked the first full version of Discotheque (in late december 1996). This version, by the way, was different from any version later released on cd or otherwise.

The track hit Interference.com and 2 major US radio stations the same day, later to be picked up and played by stations worldwide. This ended up moving up the official radio date by quite some time. The single was the first of its kind to be leaked on the Internet, and during the bands Kmart press conference they were asked 'So how does it feel to be the first band bulgarlared on the Internet?'. The event got A LOT of media attention, tv, radio, magazines, etc... and later Paul McGuinness was later quoted as saying something to the effect of, 'this has been the best free press a band has ever gotten, we couldn't have planned it this well'.

Oh.. and the DJ... was a friend of Bono's, the cdr was given to him as an early Christmans gift.

U2 likes to follow patterns that work... does any of this sound vaguely familiar?

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Also...
just for your interest...

from U2.COM:
http://u2.com/singles/s_feb_1997/single_sub_detail.html


"Afterlife
The track appeared on U2's album Pop and was performed live for the first time during the PopMart tour opener in Las Vegas on April 25, 1997. On October 26, 1996 a 30-second snippet of Discotheque, taken from a promotional EPK, was released on the Internet by Hungarian fan Martin. On December 27th, the full MP3 was available on fan site Interference.com. These premature releases of the first single from the upcoming album and airplay of the Internet releases by radio stations around the world moved up the official radio airplay date.

During the PopMart tour Discotheque was performed as the first song in U2's encore after their descent from the lemon. Dream Theatre had performed Discotheque live in concert where the singer mumbled most of the lyrics. The following artists recorded a version of Discotheque including Intra-Venus on We Will Follow: A Tribute To U2; Studio 99 on The Best of U2-A Tribute; and The Celebrity All-Star Jam on Hot Dance Hits 97.

The song debuted at No. 3 on the Billboard Modern Rock chart and was certified Gold by the RIAA on April 7, 1997"
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If the band WANTED to get snippets or "leaks" out into the public, why would they pretend it was 'leaked'? Why not just post in on their website? Give it to a DJ or two, and say "here you go, a snippet/demo of our next song"

What purpose would it serve, to pretend they didn't really want it to get out?
What purpose would it serve, you ask? It would generate publicity, as their would be a STORY. Sometimes it's not what the story is persay; it's enough that there is, plainly, a story. For example:

"The New U2 Album Has Been Leaked" or in this case,

"Storm Approaching" (taken directly from youtwo.net)

As a story, it would work better, as headlines and news snippets get attention fast; they beg people to talk about them. People like talking for the sake of talking. The word of mouth travels much faster when more eyes and ears are involved.
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Does anyone remember how those early versions sounded?...how different were they. I remember Wake Up Dead Man had some keyboard sound in it.
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Does anyone remember how those early versions sounded?...how different were they. I remember Wake Up Dead Man had some keyboard sound in it.
I just dug somethings out of the archive .... of course... if you're interested. hehe

The following files can be found on NewMedia by searching for ' U2 EPK ':

U2 EPK (Interference.com) disco.mp3
U2 EPK (Interference.com) piano.mp3
U2 EPK (Interference.com) spike.mp3
U2 EPK (Interference.com) u2epk.mp3
U2 EPK (Interference.com) wakeup.mp3
U2 EPK (Interference.com) wakeup2.mp3


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Wake up dead man?

First, what's EPK?
Second, are you talking about that there's more versions of Wake up dead man than the Salome Outtakes?!!

Someone please enlighten me.
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First, what's EPK?
Second, are you talking about that there's more versions of Wake up dead man than the Salome Outtakes?!!

Someone please enlighten me.
EPK = Electronic Press Kit ( a video distributed during the pre-POP release... )

Wake Up Dead Man has existed for quite some time, pre-pop, and has apparently been re-worked by the band MANY times. If you LOOK at the cover of Zooropa, you'll see that hidden in the purple text background id reference to 'wake up deadman'.

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Oh... ok... thanks, Elvis!

I never knew about the EPK.

I always thought the Salome Outtake Mix3 version of WUDM was the best I've heard ... with those two vocals coming out each speaker.... I always thought that was really cool.

I heard the POP version first... but after sampling some Axtung Beibi, I was kinda disappointed with what they did afterwards.... Personally I would have like to see where they could've gone with the Salome Axtung Beibi WUDM mix 3.
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According to Flangan's "U2 At The End of the World", WUDM was one of the key tracks during the Zooropa sessions. As was If God Will Send His Angels.

As we all no, neither made Zooropa but both were later reworked for Pop.
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What purpose would it serve, you ask? It would generate publicity, as their would be a STORY. Sometimes it's not what the story is persay; it's enough that there is, plainly, a story. For example:

"The New U2 Album Has Been Leaked" or in this case,

"Storm Approaching" (taken directly from youtwo.net)

As a story, it would work better, as headlines and news snippets get attention fast; they beg people to talk about them. People like talking for the sake of talking. The word of mouth travels much faster when more eyes and ears are involved.
So you're saying that there's more interest in the STORY because it's perceived to be 'ill-gotten-booty'?

Interesting...

Consider this: If the group/management considered the song incomplete, and therefore of lesser quality, I would put to you that they would DEFINITELY NOT want it in the public domain, if they thought it would put people off from buying their next release.

I can understand the theory, but I don't think it's quite as obvious as y'all are suggesting.
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