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Old 02-08-2006, 07:07 PM   #1
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Deathmatch: U2 versus The Beatles

Around the time of the Joshua Tree tour their was a lot of press comparing U2 to the Beatles. It was probably made worse by inclusions of Help and Helter Skelter in a lot of set lists. But I think the consensus was that it was way to early for U2 to be compared to the legendary Beatles.

Seven albums later, I think the comparison is starting to look more appropriate. So I designed my own album deathmatch between the two to see how they would compare. I excluded greatest hits compilations and only looked at major album releases. I may have unfairly included The Passengers album which dragged down U2’s score.

Disclaimer: This is VERY subjective. I am sorry if you think Pop is a masterpiece and Sgt. Peppers is rubbish. Your are welcome to tweak the numbers and get your own result.

Here is the scale I used:

5 = Masterpiece
4 = Exceptional
3 = Very Good
2 = Good
1 = Not for everyone

Keep in mind this scale is harsh and only applies to U2 and the Beatles. A score of 1 still blows away most stuff. Britney Spears would rate a negative 14 on this scale.


The results:

Beatles Albums

Meet the Beatles --- 3
Second album --- 1
Hard days night --- 2
Something new --- 3
Beatles 65 --- 1
Early Beatles --- 2
Beatles VI --- 1
Help --- 4
Rubber Soul --- 2
Yesterday and Today --- 4
Revolver --- 3
Sgt. Peppers --- 5
Magical Mystery Tour --- 4
White album --- 4
Yellow Submarine --- 1
Abbey Road --- 5
Let it be --- 3

Total (17 albums) --- 48

Average --- 2.82


U2 Albums

Boy --- 3
October --- 2
War --- 3
Under Blood Red Sky --- 2
Unforgettable Fire --- 4
Wide awake in America --- 2
Joshua Tree --- 5
Rattle and Hum --- 2
Achtung Baby --- 5
Zooropa --- 2
The Passengers --- 1
Pop --- 2
ATYCLB --- 4
HTDAAB --- 3


Total (14 albums) --- 40

Average --- 2.86



So there you have it, U2 beats the Beatles 2.86 to 2.82. Not exactly a huge variance. And technically U2 has to maintain this average over three more albums to keep their place.


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u2 wouldn't exist without the beatles.

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Well basically it all goes down to personal opinion.

I think the Beatles probably have a lock on the greatest band of all-time for a while more. BUT! If U2 can continue to make these great albums like HTDAAB, after maybe 2 more, I would definitely consider them to be the definitive best band ever. No doubts about it. Are they there yet? close, but not quite. Definitely in the top 3 bands of all time though. I have faith they will be #1 one day though. They've done too much musically/politically not to be considered #1
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Well, I think this is a pretty dumb idea to begin with, but if you're going to do it, some suggestions:

You should go by the canonical UK Beatles albums and not the butchered US editions. I'd also leave out the Yellow Submarine soundtrack, which had more George Martin instrumentals than Beatles songs.

On the U2 side, I'd ditch Under A Blood Red Sky and Wide Awake In America. I'd probably also omit Original Soundtracks No. 1 just to be merciful.
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Passengers OS1 IS NOT A U2 ALBUM!
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^Thank God for that
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the beatles never got the chance to be crappy... they broke up still in their prime. they left us with nothing but greatness.

and then to top it off john, paul, and even george harrison went on to have very succesful solo careers... heck, even ringo sold a few records.

the beatles are by themselves... everyone else is playing for second.
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at least for tonight, sir paul's performance of helter skelter just blew u2's lame-o vertigo away.
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U2 tour, and that's the tipping point for me. I also like their music better, anyways.
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u2 wouldn't exist without the beatles.

just quit while you're behind
Indeed, I am sure music would have stopped in the 60's had the Beatles not formed.

Get Real.

Maybe music would be even better without the Beatles (ever considered that?)
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and the wheel would have existed without ooga booga caveman, but we still give him credit.

yes, the fact that they were the first great rock band gives them an edge over all who came after... but the beatles material, and even the material done by mccartney, lennon, and even harrison after the beatles broke up... stands by it's self and doesn't need an argument.

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Okay, new deathmatch:

The Beatles versus Kelly Clarkson.

I think it could go either way.
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Yea I mean Kelly ISSSS American.

I would hate to be un-patriotic. I don't want the government thinking I'm a freedom hater.
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The results:

Beatles Albums

Meet the Beatles --- 3
Please Please Me --- 3
Beatles For Sale --- 3
Hard days night --- 3
Something new --- 3
Early Beatles --- 4
Beatles VI --- 3
Help --- 4
Rubber Soul --- 5
Yesterday and Today --- 5
Revolver --- 5
Sgt. Peppers --- 5
Magical Mystery Tour --- 4
White album --- 5
Yellow Submarine --- 3
Abbey Road --- 5
Let it be --- 4




U2 Albums

Boy --- 3
October --- 2
War --- 3
Under Blood Red Sky --- 2
Unforgettable Fire --- 4
Wide awake in America --- 2
Joshua Tree --- 5
Rattle and Hum --- 4
Achtung Baby --- 5
Zooropa --- 2
Pop --- 3
ATYCLB --- 4
HTDAAB --- 4

Sorry to break it to you guys but nobody comes close to the Beatles as much as I love U2.
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Okay, new deathmatch:

The Beatles versus Kelly Clarkson.

I think it could go either way.
ha,ha,he,he...ha,he............you are joking..ha,he....right!!!!
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Kelly's got Paul on the run, and Ringo's next.
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u2 wouldn't exist without the beatles.

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QFT!

Beatles > U2

Perhaps not in terms of 'music fusion of awesomeness', but let's face it - Paul and John had more songcraft in the combined power of their left testicles than Bono's ever had.
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Indeed, I am sure music would have stopped in the 60's had the Beatles not formed.

Get Real.

Maybe music would be even better without the Beatles (ever considered that?)
NO! You obviously don't know the history of rock music and you don't know the Beatles. The Beatles were the first sonic innovators in rock. Without the Beatles' pioneering spirit, where would rock music be? Stuck in the 50s, that's where.

Listen to the Revolver+ and then listen to everybody else before that time. Noone came close.

And even now, their songwriting ability and lyricism hasn't been surpassed. If you think U2 even comes close, then you really haven't been paying any attention.
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it's an age old argument on this board. And I believe it all comes down to your age, IMO. Like Headache said, it's BEATLES and everyone else fighting for #2

something my daughter found online many months ago...
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