sony
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If you look at the photo, her hands are all over, ohh la la
Miggy D said:I was actually kind of shocked by Bono's antics. I mean I don't consider that to be part of Bono's 'theatrics canon' if you will. He dances with girls, kisses/faux bites their hands, lies on the floor with them...but I dunno about this one. I know Bono didn't mean anything by it, but it can't be excused if the girl felt awkward about it or didn't want it. It can't be excused simply because 'he's Bono' or 'because it's on national television.' I mean, his crotch was right in her face. It definitely seemed much lewder than what Bono's done in the past, which is what threw me off when I saw it. It was surreal, really. I just sat there with my jaw dropped thinking, "Bono, what on earth are you doing, man?"
And bathiu - you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, America may have a less liberal view of sex, but this is completely different. There is a big contrast between showing a consensual act of sex in a movie and a real life unwanted sexual advance.
We all know Bono didn't mean anything by it, and I'm sure he just got 'caught up in the moment,' but again, if the girl was upset by it, she could very well press charges, and win. It is not right for us to judge her, or say 'she should have felt fine about it.' In my opinion, if a person feels uncomfortable about something like that, whether the perpetrator is a celebrity or not, their feelings should be respected and dealt with. Hopefully nothing will come of the episode.
-Miggy
doctorwho said:Sexual harrassment comes if the person said "no" and was disregarded. For example, if someone touched me or made a sexual comment or advance, and continued to do it even after I asked that person to stop, it would be harrassment.
In a one time event - like what Bono did - is a lot tougher to prove that there was actual harrassment. If a person can sue over a one time event, no one would ever hook up! LOL! We'd all be too afraid to approach someone for fear of a lawsuit. After all, one should be able to initiate "something" to see if there is any interest. It's repeated advances that cause the harrassment.
Compare to the analogy of a fly/bee buzzing around your head. The first time, you might shoo it away - no big deal. However, if it keeps buzzing, it's harrassing you.
Going back to Bono, I highly doubt he was "looking for something" but rather caught up in the moment of the song. He "entered her personal environmental space" but didn't make a suggestion or sexual advance (it's tough to prove "dry humping"). Furthermore, after that encounter, he moved on - it wasn't repeated.
As such, I can't see a harrassment lawsuit having any credibility.
Lastly, if arguably one of the most famous men, one of the most powerful men, and one of the biggest rock stars of the world does a mini-flirt with you, I think you'd be insane to sue, even if you aren't a fan. Would you sue Elvis or John Lennon if they had done something similar when they were alive? The hoardes of U2 fans would go after this woman with a vengeance if she sued. She'd gain so much negative publicity that even if she won, she'd be hated worldwide. She'd be viewed as a swindler trying to get some $$ from a wealthy person. And some things aren't worth money.
Homerpalooza said:I don't think it was only myself who noticed that the woman Bono gave his little lap dance to didn't look particularly thrilled. That was a risky thing for him to do. Think about it: This woman has a clear-cut sexual harassment case there if she wanted to persue it. The evidence was broadcast live throughout the entire east coast; a man sat in her lap uninvited and thrust himself at her, and...perhaps her family saw it, or some coworkers, leaving her completely humiliated in their eyes and therefore causing "emotional damages" in her life. I see no reason why a judge would dismiss her case if she raised one.
Now don't get me wrong, I thought what Bono did was totally awesome and had me cheering (I mean, it's what Bono does), but in hindsight I really hope that woman has a sense of humor. She wasn't a screaming PLEBA member at a U2 concert who would kill for Bono to even look at herself, after all.
bathiu said:wow... U.S. is real a place if this kind of topic is created... please tell me, you have blood, drugs, violence, realy crazy reality shows... but if you show a "part of your body" or move like Bono did... there is this kind of issue in seconds, why?
Everyone sick of it, move to Europe
Axver said:She seemed to be rather enjoying it initially ...
caragriff said:this thread is ridiculous.
now if he had jumped off stage at the clinton library performance earlier ths week and grinded down on one of the honored guests, we'd have something to be shocked at.
xovonob now! said:
Not sure that's the legal definition.... From an assault (sexual) approach, all you need is touching (in no particular place) in a manner that could reasonably considered objectionable without permission.
I hope he does something very nice for her afterwards to build favor.
Bono's American Wife said:
Its pretty pathetic that we can show blood and guts and Dennis Franz' bare ass on prime time TV in the US but Bono doing a little lap dance on late night TV causes a big stink.