America's Military

[missmacphisto]

Here are some useful links to great military sites, browse through them, educate your mind, even if you have no thoughts of enlisting.
If you are now considering joining, these sites will be invaluable to you. Take care!
http://www.military.com
http://www.capnhq.gov (civil air patrol)
http://www.af.mil (air force)
http://www.airforce.com
http://www.usaf.com (air force)
http://www.afcrossroads.com (air force)
http://www.marines.com
http://www.usmc.mil (marines)
http://www.mcia-inc.org (marines)
http://www.goarmy.com (army)
http://www.army.mil
http://www.navy.com
http://www.navy.mil
http://www.uscg.mil (Coast Guard)

http://www.todaysmilitary.com
http://www.militarycity.com
http://www.militarywoman.com
http://www.ang.af.mil (air national guard)




[This message has been edited by Miss MacPhisto (edited 09-13-2001).]

 

[missmacphisto]

Oh...and before anyone goes on a diatribe about killing, let me point out again that the vast majority of service members have never, and will never, kill anyone - or even fight. The vast majority of the jobs are NOT combat oriented!!!!
Check out the links and LEARN.

p.s. The Civil Air Patrol has nothing to do with combat. And I think most people can join even if you wouldnt qualify for the regular military(due to age,health concerns,etc)

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My name is MISS MACPHISTO...I'm tired and i want to go HOME...

"Well you tell...Bonovista,that i said hello and that my codename is Belleview" - Bono before opening night of Anaheim Elevation concert

[This message has been edited by Miss MacPhisto (edited 09-13-2001).]

 

[OzAurora]

This is shocking- this is saying to me that you are envisaging military action, I for one honestly hope that this situation can be resolved without military intervention, I think the last thing that America needs is an army that is comprised of angry civilians with a Middle Eastern bent, it takes great humility to be able to look at your agressor and not be like them, to not show the same evil as they do and to ultimately feel compassion for their actions.........

 

[popmart_in Mexico]

Originally posted by OzAurora:
This is shocking- this is saying to me that you are envisaging military action, I for one honestly hope that this situation can be resolved without military intervention, I think the last thing that America needs is an army that is comprised of angry civilians with a Middle Eastern bent, it takes great humility to be able to look at your agressor and not be like them, to not show the same evil as they do and to ultimately feel compassion for their actions.........

I agree 100%

 

[speedracer]

Originally posted by OzAurora:
This is shocking- this is saying to me that you are envisaging military action, I for one honestly hope that this situation can be resolved without military intervention, I think the last thing that America needs is an army that is comprised of angry civilians with a Middle Eastern bent, it takes great humility to be able to look at your agressor and not be like them, to not show the same evil as they do and to ultimately feel compassion for their actions.........

It's definitely unwise for the US to begin an attack on any nation at this time--we really aren't sure if these acts were state-sponsored in any way.

That being said, does anybody else smell something fishy within the Taliban government of Afghanistan? I don't understand how or why they should categorically deny that Osama bin Laden could have been involved. If bin Laden couldn't have funded or masterminded these atrocities, who could have? This official declaration by the Taliban makes me somewhat suspicious.

 

[MSU2mike]

Make no mistake, there is going to be military action. Extensive military action. Against whom? Don't be naive. The names Bin Laden and Hussein are both behind this; possibly Khaddafi as well. It was their men--cells--their funds. Their assylum.

As for the Taliban, that's pretty much irrelevent. They're going to deny everything because at this point they're scared shitless about what's going to happen to them. Granting Bin Laden assylum on their part is one of the many places they have failed in recent years.

 

[Johnny Swallow]

Originally posted by OzAurora:
...I for one honestly hope that this situation can be resolved without military intervention

Sure it'd be nice, but it's not going to happen.

I think the last thing that America needs is an army that is comprised of angry civilians with a Middle Eastern bent...

I think the last thing we needed was 10,000+ citizens murdered.

I'm not getting on to you, but don't be so shocked that there will be Justice or at the very least...retaliation.

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[TylerDurden]

Originally posted by OzAurora:
This is shocking- this is saying to me that you are envisaging military action, I for one honestly hope that this situation can be resolved without military intervention, I think the last thing that America needs is an army that is comprised of angry civilians with a Middle Eastern bent, it takes great humility to be able to look at your agressor and not be like them, to not show the same evil as they do and to ultimately feel compassion for their actions.........

In the breaking news 5 mins ago....

"In the most explicit description yet of the intentions of President George W Bush's administration, Deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz today said the military retaliation would continue until the roots of terrorism are destroyed.

"One has to say it's not just simply a matter of capturing people and holding them accountable, but removing the sanctuaries, removing the support systems, ending states who sponsor terrorism," he told a news conference in a Pentagon briefing room that still smelled of smoke and soot."

Sadly, I don't think anything BUT military is being considered. I just hope its kinda controlled, more strategic rather then just blanket bombing an area.

"ENDING states"....Thats so fucking scary.

 

[diamondbruno9]

Ms MAC!Don't enlist yet. We got some liquor-stores to "knock-off"-DB#9(need that 3rd leg $)LOL

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"..it's about breaking barriers, transcending boundries and conquering great divides"-Bono 1987

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An open letter to Bono from myself www.arizonaautoweb.com/bono/

 

[Holy John]

FUCK MILITARY..

BUSINESS AS USUAL, HUH ? YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ????

keep in your little world..

WWW.AMNESTY.ORG


cheers

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La resignacion es un suicido permanente

 

[OzAurora]

Originally posted by Holy John:
FUCK MILITARY..

BUSINESS AS USUAL, HUH ? YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ????

keep in your little world..

WWW.AMNESTY.ORG


cheers

So true HJ, so true.........I agree

 

[STING]

If you have nothing nice to say about the military Holy John, don't say it AT ALL! There are many interferencer's that may be in the military or have family in the Military. Your comment about the military showed no tact or respect and does not belong here, especially at a time like this!

 

[MSU2mike]

Yeah. So true. I mean, these guys respond so well to peaceful discussion and love.

 

[U2Bama]

But Holy John, isn't Subcommandante Marcos a "militant" rebel? I guess military is okay as long as it goes along with your ideals only.

~U2Alabama

 

[The Wanderer]

Originally posted by OzAurora:
it takes great humility to be able to look at your agressor and not be like them, to not show the same evil as they do and to ultimately feel compassion for their actions.........

yes, while they stomp on your head and throw dirt on your dead body...

and what's this? you want me to feel compassion for these terrorists now?!?!

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"violence... can heal the wounds it has inflicted"
--Jean-Paul Sartre

 

[diamondbruno9]

Originally posted by U2Bama:
But Holy John, isn't Subcommandante Marcos a "militant" rebel? I guess military is okay as long as it goes along with your ideals only.

~U2Alabama

Bama,Where have u been? More meaningful threads await your response. Godspeed-Db9


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"..it's about breaking barriers, transcending boundries and conquering great divides"-Bono 1987

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An open letter to Bono from myself www.arizonaautoweb.com/bono/

 

[MSU2mike]

Originally posted by The Wanderer:
yes, while they stomp on your head and throw dirt on your dead body...

and what's this? you want me to feel compassion for these terrorists now?!?!

Gotta love those bleeding heart types...

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[The Wanderer]

yeah, I think we can reason with them, they will see that love conquors all and they will understand that they made a mistake and repent

that sort of thing might work when your brother has kicked you in the tesicles and you do nothing cause he is a foot taller than you... then maybe you feel compassion for him when he gets bored with kicking you around and starts pummeling some other neighbor-kid

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I don't believe in painted roses, or bleeding hearts...

 

[missmacphisto]

Originally posted by The Wanderer:
yeah, I think we can reason with them, they will see that love conquors all and they will understand that they made a mistake and repent

that sort of thing might work when your brother has kicked you in the tesicles and you do nothing cause he is a foot taller than you... then maybe you feel compassion for him when he gets bored with kicking you around and starts pummeling some other neighbor-kid

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I don't believe in painted roses, or bleeding hearts...

LMFAO @ kicked in the testicles!

Exactly!


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Look...look what you've done to me...You've made me poor and infamous, and I thank you...

My name is MISS MACPHISTO...I'm tired and i want to go HOME...

"Well you tell...Bonovista,that i said hello and that my codename is Belleview" - Bono before opening night of Anaheim Elevation concert

 

[missmacphisto]

Originally posted by OzAurora:
This is shocking- this is saying to me that you are envisaging military action, I for one honestly hope that this situation can be resolved without military intervention,

Everyone knows that there is going to be military intervention. It isnt something i dreamed up. And no, i dont really want military intervention either, but only because i care so much about the soldiers,sailors,airmen,and marines that would be in harms way. Most of them are very good people and I would NEVER want them to be harmed in any way.
I would prefer,instead of military action, the CIA,NSA, or other such agencies go after the individuals responsible, and do away with them. This is what should happen, but i doubt any of the pols have the brains to figure that out, and the CIA/NSA are much too busy involving themselves with ordinary Americans to actually go out and do some good,anyway. They are terrible failures...

 

[BabyGrace]

why attack the military??? they are people too and in this country they are meant to protect freedom and keep safety, not heartlessly murder anyone they come across

oh wait, I have a great idea, let's let those terrorists continue to torture the rest of the world until we're all living in fear, people are being killed by the millions regularly, and hatred and intolerance dominates our world. sounds like a wonderful plan.

I'm starting to become very angry right now, why? because Americans in particular are being attacked no matter what they choose to do. if our military does nothing and things get out of control (like they aren't already) it will be our fault for not using our power to do something.
yet if we declare war on terrorism, we're a bad, bad people who have the nerve to stick our nose in everything and cause more hatred and fighting in the world. forget the fact that how many Americans were just killed, that doesn't matter.
I hate war as much as anyone, who doesn't? and I don't believe retaliation is the answer in most cases but I refuse to agree that we should just sit back and let them walk over us. but how many lives does it have to take for some people to understand that peace and compassion to them is just an opporitunity to take more of our people?

ugh, this is so shitty..I'm sorry but I needed to vent and I stand behind everything our country is doing. why should I have to apologize for being born where I was?

take care all

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[Holy John]

Subcomandante Marcos is a guerillero fighting against military people. This is the only way he can make his cause being understand.

Is the country of good will use madness ? I'm an outsider and since sept. II people like me, standing against a US military action, wich is the majority in outside US countries, are seing like sympathisers. I'm a militant, and I went today to a peace manifestation, along with 2 000 people, heard anti-war speeches and I don't shut up by saying that I don't approve a military action.

That makes me a target of the US now... people here, outside the US (mostly in NATO countries) feel being transported in the new madness.... and I won't accept that, just like I don't accept the terrorists acts commited on sept. II.

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La resignacion es un suicido permanente

 

[STING]

Holy John,
So you won't support military action by the USA and NATO to defend themselves, just like you wouldn't support police in your community killing an individual who is killing and injuring people in your community? At what point would you defend your own life and your family? Something to think about.
I believe in Justice and it must be delivered to those who have committed or supported in any way shape form, those that have committed this terrorist attack. I have always believed in are military and its importance in preserving are nation, other nations, our way of life, our existence. People here just do not understand the sacrifices that our men and women in the military make everyday in peacetime! It is time for everyone to help our military and other non-military organizations, in helping secure our country, rebuild the damage, and find anyone, either individual or state, that is responsible in any way shape or form, for this terrorist attack on the USA and the civilized world.

 

[MSU2mike]

Originally posted by Holy John:
Subcomandante Marcos is a guerillero fighting against military people. This is the only way he can make his cause being understand.

That makes me a target of the US now... people here, outside the US (mostly in NATO countries) feel being transported in the new madness.... and I won't accept that, just like I don't accept the terrorists acts commited on sept. II.

So again, you're okay with fighting if it is AGAINST a military regime? But not if the military is working to protect a nation or nations.

As for you not accepting military action, all I can say is thank God you aren't making any significant decisions on behalf of, well, anyone.

A dim light, you are.

 

[the olive]

Mass murder MUST be stopped. Whether it is in Europe in 1939, the Pacific region in 1941, Bosnia in the late 90's, or on US soil in 2001. The words "military response" seem to make everyone nervous, but in a situation like this what other tools do we have? These terrorists don't want to negotiate. They want to die and take you and me with them.

This will be a difficult war yes. But do we sit back and watch cities collapse because fighting back is hard?

 

[U2Bama]

Originally posted by Holy John:
Subcomandante Marcos is a guerillero fighting against military people. This is the only way he can make his cause being understand.

I'm a militant, ...I don't approve a military action.

That makes me a target of the US now...

No.

Military action is THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE to end this problem, too. Why is it okay for your "subcommandantes," but not a unified world force?

Then you say you are a militant, but went to a peace rally, and don't support military action. Really strange.

I know we are all supposed to respect and bow down to everything you say, but I don't think you will be happy until I, as a freedom-loving person, am working on a gulag as a prisoner of conscience to a repressive extremist government.

~U2Alabama

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[Achtung Bubba]

Amen, the olive.