Why all the hate against Starbucks? - Page 2

U2Girl1978 · 06-28-2005, 09:33 AM

I don't mind starbucks but I can't drink their stuff every day. That crap will ruin your insides!

AvsGirl41 · 06-28-2005, 09:49 AM

I like the Cafe Mochas.

It's the only thing I'll get from there, I like to make workman's tea at home.

What drives me nuts about Starbucks is that they are literally everywhere. You know it's bad when you go to a home decor store and they have a Starbucks.

But it's less the stores than the people who go there--working at Barnes and Noble, I decided that this coffee obsession is less a sign of refinement and more a sign of serious addiction. That worries me.

sulawesigirl4 · 06-28-2005, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by pax
That said, though...a Starbucks caramel macchiato is a lovely occasional treat.

yum...the caramel macchiato is pretty much the ONLY drink I order at Starbucks. As to the hatred, I don't HATE the place, but I do get tired of its ubiquitousness. It's EVERYWHERE. I'll go if it's convenient (ie. I'm at Barnes and Noble in the U.S.) but if I'm in Paris or Venice for godsakes I wouldn't shame myself to step foot in the place.

That said, we had a much better chain in the Minnesota area called Caribou.

The coffee was better and the sizes were actually what they say they are: small, medium and large.

starsgoblue · 06-28-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by Chizip
i once went to a starbucks in columbus, ohio. the person working there was a huuuuuge hippy. i think she was a U2 fan though.

I'm not a hippy! I come from punk rock!

There is one really wierd barista that works in a store in Ashburn, Virginia though....Talk about swarmy hippy....

RedRocksU2 · 06-28-2005, 10:40 AM

I did not there was much hate for Starbucks.....

However like it was posted before, some of their employees seem to have a chip on their shoulders.....

Tower Records employees, Starbucks employees, MAC cosmetics girls (and guys?), Border Bookstore employees......all the same....I think they are clones of the same species or something...

.....hmmm...this could be a good thread

Golightly Grrl · 06-28-2005, 10:44 AM

I agree that the names Starbucks gives to its sizes is beyond pretentious. But the peppermint mocha drink they put out around the holidays is the shit!

However, because I like to keep my money in my community, I usually patronize locally owned coffee places. Milwaukee is filled with them-Rochambo, Comet Cafe, Alterra, Fuel Cafe.

The funny thing is, when my friend Jean visited me from NYC, I took her too many of the local coffee places and she said Milwaukee coffee is so much stronger thatn NYC coffee.

impy13 · 06-28-2005, 10:44 AM

First of all, I've never had a drink at Starbucks that I didn't enjoy thoroughly. But just setting foot in there makes me feel like a trendy piece of shit. I'm not saying this is everyone, but oftentimes a Starbucks patron is a snooty and pompous dick. Who brings their laptop to get a fucking cup of coffee?

Starbucks isn't just a place to get a drink, it's a place to be seen. And that's my biggest problem with it. It's just a trendy hot spot for people who want to be perceived a certain way. People who buy in to the Starbucks machine and submit themselves to it. It's like a cult, in a way.

The point is, Starbucks is all well and good until you think it's a cool place to be seen. Sitting on your lappy after you've finished your coffee long ago isn't "cool", it's sad. Just get your drink and go.

Hell, I think the coffee at 7-11 is just as good.

randhail · 06-28-2005, 10:59 AM

While I did say that starbucks employees can be smamy hippies, many of them I have encountered have been quite good. However, the smarmy ones can be quite bad. I'm not making a big deal about this but last winter I was in a starbucks, admittedly dressed like a slob because I had been skiing all day and had the full smarmy treatment given to me. I don't remember the exact context of the situation (maybe a long wait) but the employee said something to the effect of "it's ok because he's dressed in ski clothes" to another employee. I didn't get mad, it was more of a "are you kidding me" reaction. Oh well. Apparently since I didn't have my laptop and my jetta wasn't in the parking lot, I didn't get the best service.

u2bonogirl · 06-28-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by starsgoblue

I'm not a hippy! I come from punk rock!

There is one really wierd barista that works in a store in Ashburn, Virginia though....Talk about swarmy hippy....

Bugger off hippy brat!

Im the only cool person they have working there. Everybody else is yuppie cheese

Yes, stars and I work for the hated starbucks and theyre a pretty damn good place to work for.
I cant drink the drip coffee there. Its sludge to me, but for the record, the beans sold there are high quality and very good if made the way you like it at home.
Theres extensive work done to ensure that everybody behind that counter knows how to make the drink to the starbucks standard.
Weight, temperature, taste..
The reason its so bloody hot ewen, is that we're only allowed to heat the milk twice and then we have to toss it. Therefore its much easier to heat it to the maximum temperature and then have more time to keep it and let it cool

I dont like my drinks hot either. All you have to do is ask for it not too hot

My beef? I cant have my tattoos showing at work even though every freakin customer wants to see them

Sparkysgrrrl · 06-28-2005, 11:24 AM

I don't know which thread to respond to now lol
So I'll put it in this one too -

One reason for the "hatred"
Fair Trade Issue -
http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/fairtrade/
http://www.globalexchange.org/campa.../starbucks.html

I just wish they would do more with the power they have, especially if they are going to keep raising thier prices, at least pay the growers what they can live on.

elevation2u · 06-28-2005, 01:02 PM

I love Coffee

, sorry i can drink this shit all day...it's probably doing horrible things to my insides, but it is my only drug..i love yummy alcoholic drinks but i definitely do limit myself as to not drink it often...but coffee i try anf try but it's too damn difficult...mmmmm espresso, bailey's, kalhua...

i personally don't see the big deal about starbucks, if it is a social thing then it makes sense but the coffee there is only decent there are other local coffee shops that offer more variety, lower prices, and better taste

..i guess starbucks is just 'convenient' because it is practically EVERYWHERE. If i had to drink coffee from a Corporate shop I would go with Coffee Bean, i prefer the taste.

but all you need is an espresso/coffee machine at home and you can make coffee perfect to your taste.

and an ice machine...and blender

Doozer61 · 06-28-2005, 01:16 PM

I prefer "Its a grind". Its a little, local chain that started here in Long Beach.

The coffee is much smoother than Starbucks.

And, the cafe mochas are made with ghiradelli chocolate

*Ally* · 06-28-2005, 01:19 PM

my morning is not complete without an Iced Grande Vanille Latte...

i like starbucks...

deep · 06-28-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by Aardvark747
Coffee tastes like shit

not exactly but close

shit with a little bit of hickory steak sauce thrown it

blind taste test confirm this.

elevation2u · 06-28-2005, 01:21 PM

ghiradelli chocolate

**Diemen** · 06-28-2005, 01:23 PM

Starbucks is way overpriced for the quality of coffee. Luckily I'm not a big coffee drinker so I don't go there that often. The service is almost always good, though.

Peet's Coffee tastes much, much better.

U2Girl1978 · 06-28-2005, 01:51 PM

Cosi's stuff is much better.

AvsGirl41 · 06-28-2005, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedrocksU2

Tower Records employees, Starbucks employees, MAC cosmetics girls (and guys?), Border Bookstore employees......all the same....I think they are clones of the same species or something... .....hmmm...this could be a good thread

Wow, you need to come to my MAC cosmetics! They are so unbelievably nice. I would never have purchased their make-up if they hadn't been so nice, considerate and patient with me because I'm terrified of cosmetics counters.

But when I've been to the one at Cherry Creek--

! They are horrible. So mine must be really special.

Liesje · 06-28-2005, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doozer61
I prefer "Its a grind". Its a little, local chain that started here in Long Beach.

We have that here in west Michigan, but I've never tried (since I hate coffee).

U2@NYC · 06-28-2005, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by U2Girl1978
Cosi's stuff is much better.

Well, but that is a chain too.

Cosi bread

06-28-2005, 09:33 AM	#21
U2Girl1978 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the altar of the dark star Posts: 19,374 Local Time: 03:36 AM	I don't mind starbucks but I can't drink their stuff every day. That crap will ruin your insides! __________________

06-28-2005, 09:49 AM	#22
AvsGirl41 New Yorker Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 2,948 Local Time: 12:36 AM	I like the Cafe Mochas. It's the only thing I'll get from there, I like to make workman's tea at home. What drives me nuts about Starbucks is that they are literally everywhere. You know it's bad when you go to a home decor store and they have a Starbucks. But it's less the stores than the people who go there--working at Barnes and Noble, I decided that this coffee obsession is less a sign of refinement and more a sign of serious addiction. That worries me. __________________

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06-28-2005, 10:40 AM	#25
RedRocksU2 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Murrieta, CA. Posts: 26,437 Local Time: 12:36 AM	I did not there was much hate for Starbucks..... However like it was posted before, some of their employees seem to have a chip on their shoulders..... Tower Records employees, Starbucks employees, MAC cosmetics girls (and guys?), Border Bookstore employees......all the same....I think they are clones of the same species or something... .....hmmm...this could be a good thread

06-28-2005, 10:44 AM	#26
Golightly Grrl Refugee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 1,415 Local Time: 07:36 AM	I agree that the names Starbucks gives to its sizes is beyond pretentious. But the peppermint mocha drink they put out around the holidays is the shit! However, because I like to keep my money in my community, I usually patronize locally owned coffee places. Milwaukee is filled with them-Rochambo, Comet Cafe, Alterra, Fuel Cafe. The funny thing is, when my friend Jean visited me from NYC, I took her too many of the local coffee places and she said Milwaukee coffee is so much stronger thatn NYC coffee.

06-28-2005, 10:44 AM	#27
impy13 ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,414 Local Time: 08:36 PM	First of all, I've never had a drink at Starbucks that I didn't enjoy thoroughly. But just setting foot in there makes me feel like a trendy piece of shit. I'm not saying this is everyone, but oftentimes a Starbucks patron is a snooty and pompous dick. Who brings their laptop to get a fucking cup of coffee? Starbucks isn't just a place to get a drink, it's a place to be seen. And that's my biggest problem with it. It's just a trendy hot spot for people who want to be perceived a certain way. People who buy in to the Starbucks machine and submit themselves to it. It's like a cult, in a way. The point is, Starbucks is all well and good until you think it's a cool place to be seen. Sitting on your lappy after you've finished your coffee long ago isn't "cool", it's sad. Just get your drink and go. Hell, I think the coffee at 7-11 is just as good.

06-28-2005, 10:59 AM	#28
randhail Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Outside Providence Posts: 3,560 Local Time: 03:36 AM	While I did say that starbucks employees can be smamy hippies, many of them I have encountered have been quite good. However, the smarmy ones can be quite bad. I'm not making a big deal about this but last winter I was in a starbucks, admittedly dressed like a slob because I had been skiing all day and had the full smarmy treatment given to me. I don't remember the exact context of the situation (maybe a long wait) but the employee said something to the effect of "it's ok because he's dressed in ski clothes" to another employee. I didn't get mad, it was more of a "are you kidding me" reaction. Oh well. Apparently since I didn't have my laptop and my jetta wasn't in the parking lot, I didn't get the best service.

06-28-2005, 11:24 AM	#30
Sparkysgrrrl War Child Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: under the table and screaming Posts: 754 Local Time: 11:36 PM	I don't know which thread to respond to now lol So I'll put it in this one too - One reason for the "hatred" Fair Trade Issue - http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/fairtrade/ http://www.globalexchange.org/campa.../starbucks.html I just wish they would do more with the power they have, especially if they are going to keep raising thier prices, at least pay the growers what they can live on.

06-28-2005, 01:02 PM	#31
elevation2u Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: May 2002 Location: corner of Badlands & Magnolia Mountain Posts: 5,371 Local Time: 11:36 PM	I love Coffee , sorry i can drink this shit all day...it's probably doing horrible things to my insides, but it is my only drug..i love yummy alcoholic drinks but i definitely do limit myself as to not drink it often...but coffee i try anf try but it's too damn difficult...mmmmm espresso, bailey's, kalhua... i personally don't see the big deal about starbucks, if it is a social thing then it makes sense but the coffee there is only decent there are other local coffee shops that offer more variety, lower prices, and better taste ..i guess starbucks is just 'convenient' because it is practically EVERYWHERE. If i had to drink coffee from a Corporate shop I would go with Coffee Bean, i prefer the taste. but all you need is an espresso/coffee machine at home and you can make coffee perfect to your taste. and an ice machine...and blender

06-28-2005, 01:16 PM	#32
Doozer61 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Setting up house on Scooter's Star Posts: 20,218 Local Time: 11:36 PM	I prefer "Its a grind". Its a little, local chain that started here in Long Beach. The coffee is much smoother than Starbucks. And, the cafe mochas are made with ghiradelli chocolate

06-28-2005, 01:19 PM	#33
Ally New Yorker Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,714 Local Time: 03:36 AM	my morning is not complete without an Iced Grande Vanille Latte... i like starbucks...

06-28-2005, 01:21 PM	#35
elevation2u Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: May 2002 Location: corner of Badlands & Magnolia Mountain Posts: 5,371 Local Time: 11:36 PM	ghiradelli chocolate

06-28-2005, 01:23 PM	#36
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,629 Local Time: 01:36 AM	Starbucks is way overpriced for the quality of coffee. Luckily I'm not a big coffee drinker so I don't go there that often. The service is almost always good, though. Peet's Coffee tastes much, much better.

06-28-2005, 01:51 PM	#37
U2Girl1978 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the altar of the dark star Posts: 19,374 Local Time: 03:36 AM	Cosi's stuff is much better.