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Old 07-25-2004, 11:44 AM   #41
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In today's LA Times, there's an article outlining a proposed series of concerts in "swing" states this fall. These concerts are being organized to call attention to the importance of getting Bush out of office. The performers mentioned are Springsteen, REM, Neil Young, Peral Jam, Dave Matthews, and others. No one is confirming anything, but an announcement is scheduled August 4. The article also discusses the rock and rap songs that are protest songs. Apparently, P. Diddy is getting a voter-registration drive going. It will be interesting to see if any of this pans out. How will those pain-in-the-ass conservative Springsteen fans handle this?
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How will those pain-in-the-ass conservative Springsteen fans handle this?
They aren't handling it very well, judging from the Springsteen message boards I lurk at. (I never bothered registering. I spend too much time on the Internet as it is.) The conservative fans there are a pretty obnoxious bunch. At least the conservatives at this site are respectful, for the most part.
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You know what I wonder. How on earth did any conservatives think Springsteen was ever speaking for them in the first place? I mean to me it's apparent (and always has been) that Springsteen is NOT a conservative.

I guess they hear his songs of country and family and think "aha! conservative," but I don't understand why so many conservatives also seem to think they are the only people concerned with family and country.
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I just took a second look at Martha's last post. Hmmm, Bruce, R.E.M. Pearl Jam and Neil Young at one show? Hey, isn't Iowa a swing state?
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I think also a factor in what you hear on the radio is where you live. I hear A LOT of socially conscious music on radio stations in the bay area. Definitely a lot more than I ever heard listening to radio in Oklahoma.
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I heard lyrics saying that (and I paraphrase) "If I were president, I'd make sure everyone believed in God, and those who didn't could get the hell out of the country" and lyrics saying wouldn't it be great to resurrect John Wayne and have him kick Saddam Hussein's ass. It's fine if you want to support the war, but it left a bad taste in my mouth about freedom of religion to hear those lyrics. And it's just so over the top to mention John Wayne in reference to Saddam. There were other lyrics that bothered me too, mostly in reference to how those who didn't support the war could rot in hell like the traitors they are.
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Anyone here heard the Moby & Public Enemy song "Make Love & F*ck War" ?

Pearl Jam "Bushleager"

There are some out there.
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Diemen, you're right about living in the right or wrong places. I'm sure S.F. has more liberal tendacies that Oklahoma, but I'm talking BIG PICTURE, here. Looking a Billboard magazine week after week, you'll find the only war-protest songs are on classic rock.

That's a good point, though.

Yeah, and Springsteen considered a conservative is laughable. But, he is filthy rich...and most people who fit that description are conservative with their money. Maybe he's just against idiots running the country. That's admirable.

On a side note: Last night I sang karaoke and did the song "China Girl" by David Bowie. During the line about "I stumble into town...like a sacred cow...visions of swastikas in my head...plans for everyone", I changed the lyric from "swastika" to "Dubya". I made it very clear that's what I was saying. Everyone was too drunk to catch it, but regardless...I added my own poltiical ideology to a crowd of drunken fools. LOL

Anyway, I just wanted to share that.
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They aren't handling it very well, judging from the Springsteen message boards I lurk at. (I never bothered registering. I spend too much time on the Internet as it is.) The conservative fans there are a pretty obnoxious bunch.
God, tell me about it! That's why I bailed on the one where I posted for a while. They can't stand him as a person!
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I just took a second look at Martha's last post. Hmmm, Bruce, R.E.M. Pearl Jam and Neil Young at one show? Hey, isn't Iowa a swing state?
Don't get too excited just yet. These things are always bigger on paper than in reality. Wait till the announcement to see who is really playing, if it even happens.
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