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(What's The Story?) Morning Glory 37 68.52%
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Old 07-25-2005, 10:31 AM   #21
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I guess I will go with Definately Maybe, love them both though.
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Be Here Now.






Seriously, I'm going to have to go with Definitely Maybe, if only because it has my favorite Oasis song, Slide Away.

And I think I am one of the only people who actually still likes Be Here Now...!
I've been listening to Be Here Now today and I think I actually prefer it. I love the sound effects used on it (that's about as technical as I can get-sorry!) and think they sound so much better (smoother and more talented/showing off more). On the other hand all of the songs could do to be edited to cut down on the length and excessive soloing.

However, my Be Here Now periods don't tend to last long, tomorrow I'll probably pick it up and think "What's with all this noise? Gimme a nice ballad like Wonderwall or Let there be love" or "Just hurry up and finish the bloody song Noel, it's been 9 minutes already!"
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Noel Gallagher has said himself on many occassions that What's The Story was full of the songs that weren't good enough to go on Definately Maybe. DM is much better overall and everyone always forgets how much dross there is on WTSMG, Cast No Shadow anyone. Looking back and having seen them this summer they're two pretty avarage albums from a very average band. The one thing I would concede is that DM does have the only Oasis songs which have come close to standing the test of time (Champagne Supernova, Don't Look Back In Anger and Wonderwall). Although I have to also add I prefer the Ryan Adams version of Wonderwall and the Matt Pond PA version of Champagne Supernova.

Terrible post...average band?? average albums?? to me the first two Oasis albums define what great rock and roll is all about..those albums really gave everyone a kick up the arse..as for their latest, its really good better than than the last three but not as good as the early masterpieces.
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And I think I am one of the only people who actually still likes Be Here Now...!

I think Be Here Now is the most overlooked album possibly of all time, sans Pop by U2. Everyone expected it to just like the first two when in fact at times it was different and wonderful. I'll agree the album has many questionable parts on it, but Noel shouldn't be so hard on himself by saying it's so awful. I can think of six songs on the disc that really sound great still, such as Don't Go Away, the first one, track two and all around the world. Not the crown jewel of the Oasis catalog, but much better than heard by most in the music community.


But my answer to the question is Definitely Maybe. Like mentioned it may not have the absolute best songs by the band, but it's the strongest of all their albums.
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Tough one. Morning Glory has Wonderwall, Don't look back in Anger, Cast No Shadow, Some Might say and then a load of rubbish. Definitely Maybe has alot of good songs and is probably more consistent but then it has nothing like Wonderwall. If I could pick and choose what tracks to listen to then Morning Glory but if I had to listen right through then Definitely Maybe as I can't stand tracks like Roll with it, Hey Now, She's electric etc
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I just wanna say "Hey, Now!" rules, and you all suck.
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Actually, I wanna rank the Oasis catalogue too:
  • What's the Story (Morning Glory?)--Probably their most consistent. I like the "dross" like "Cast No Shadow" and "She's Electric"; a good balance between slow and fast tunes. And it ends with "Champagne Supernova." I love epic closers.
  • The Masterplan--Turns out not all their songs are about drugs. Most of the B-sides collected here have a sixties-esque fascination with youth (and the passing of it). "The Swamp Song" is some boring, repetitive shit (and their cover of "I Am the Walrus" goes on a bit too long also), but other than that, it's perfect.
  • Don't Believe the Truth--It's really grown on me. Melodically impeccable. Doesn't do anything new, but c'mon, it's fucking Oasis.
  • Definitely Maybe--Just rocks from start to finish, which is its greatest virtue but also its greatest flaw. Some down-tempo songs (besides "Married With Children") would've made it a less tedious listen. Doesn't help that the production blurs everything into a noisy mess. But still, the songs are all great.
  • Be Here Now--This used to be my favorite, and I used to be fine with the song lengths, but now I wish it were more succinct. I like the B-sides from this era because they had similar songwriting (a bit more bombastic than usual) but saner running times.
  • Standing On the Shoulder of Giants--Mediocre songwriting all around, but it has probably the strongest sixties vibe of any of their albums (especially on "Go Let It Out" and "Who Feels Love?", the closest these guys'll ever get to psychedelia), so it's a pleasant listen from time to time.
  • Heathen Chemistry--You wanna talk about dross, let's talk about "Stop Crying Your Heart Out" or "Little By Little." But all of Liam's contributions are solid, and the rest of Noel's stuff is okay.
They need to release another B-sides album.
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Terrible post...average band?? average albums?? to me the first two Oasis albums define what great rock and roll is all about..those albums really gave everyone a kick up the arse..as for their latest, its really good better than than the last three but not as good as the early masterpieces.
Come on, as much as I love them and have taken pleasure from their music they're a tragically average band. Definately Maybe hardly reinvented the wheel now did it? What's more they basically re-made that album again and again.

Both Definately Maybe and What's The Story are good albums but I think great is a bit over the top; they were rewarded far beyond what they deserved for those first two albums because they were very good at getting their pictures in the papers. I'm not sure what evidence there is for saying they gave people a kick in arse, they might have grabbed a lot of attention but I think for the main part that was about it. The Brit Pop scene at the time was pretty exciting regardless of Oasis.

It's often forgotten that What's The Story was released to very mixed reviews. Not always the best guide I know but does give us some pause for thought before heralding the album as a masterpiece. For every Don't Look Back In Anger and Champagne Supernova there's a Cast No Shadow, Hey Now and Roll With It.

Being a young teenager at the time from a musical perspective it's a period of my life I look back on with great fondness but What's The Story wasn't by any stretch of the imagination the stand out album, Cast's All Change, Pulp's Different Class and even Suede's Coming Up were all in my opinion far superior albums. They were also from bands who had the balls to alter their sound. There's also a certain re-writing of history with regards to Definately Maybe, THE album of the time was Blur's Parklife and listening back to both albums now I can fully understand why that was the case.

The 'Quo-asis' comment upset Oasis and their fans so much because like all the most hurtful remarks there was more than a grain of truth to it.
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Before I got into U2, my favourite band was Oasis. U2 went further up the list, however, as the quality of Oasis albums went down.

However, I've been pulling out some old Oasis tracks recently, and I've become a bigger fan of WTSMG than I used to be. Melodically, you can't go wrong with this album. Overall quality, however, is DM...with the exception of "Shakermaker," it's a very consistent album.

The B-sides were always amazing, too: "Talk Tonight," "Headshrinker," "The Masterplan," "Whatever" (not really a b-side, but never on an album), "Acquiesce," "Half The World Away..."

I'd also say that, while "Wonderwall" got a lot of people into Oasis, they had at least half a dozen better songs in their career.
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[*]Definitely Maybe--Just rocks from start to finish, which is its greatest virtue but also its greatest flaw. Some down-tempo songs (besides "Married With Children") would've made it a less tedious listen. Doesn't help that the production blurs everything into a noisy mess. But still, the songs are all great.
That's exactly how I feel about DM, put in a far clearer way than I would have ever managed myself. Especially the comment about "noisy mess". Take 'Slide Away' for example, would that not have benefitted immensely from a slightly softer production rather than once again trying to emphasize Oasis's 'raw' sound and in turn imply their working class roots and 'angry' attitude?

Even WTSMG sounds rather...basic to me. That isn't quite what I mean (can you help me out Typhoon? ) but if you listen to it and then compare its production to that of BHN's morse code, codas, etc. it does make the 'fillers' from WTSMG seem like they could have been done so much better.

I doubt any of the above makes any sense whatsoever but anyway, thanks Typhoon for writing that.
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Before I got into U2, my favourite band was Oasis. U2 went further up the list, however, as the quality of Oasis albums went down.

However, I've been pulling out some old Oasis tracks recently, and I've become a bigger fan of WTSMG than I used to be. Melodically, you can't go wrong with this album. Overall quality, however, is DM...with the exception of "Shakermaker," it's a very consistent album.

The B-sides were always amazing, too: "Talk Tonight," "Headshrinker," "The Masterplan," "Whatever" (not really a b-side, but never on an album), "Acquiesce," "Half The World Away..."

I'd also say that, while "Wonderwall" got a lot of people into Oasis, they had at least half a dozen better songs in their career.
i think we might have been separated at birth

oasis were my fav band before i discovered U2

and i also share the same views as you on them and think DM is their best album. although i like Shakermaker as well
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This thread is really making me want to pick up Definitely Maybe. I've meant to for quite some time now,but I havent exactly been in love with Oasis for the last 9 years, so I havent. In all honesty, sometimes I feel like I flat out hate them. Maybe I'll have to pick it up used, I honestly think I'd like it far more than Morning Glory from the descriptions/reviews I've read.
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tough call but i'd have to go with Definitely Maybe. Whereas as Morning Glory has the classics like wonderwall, don't look back in anger, & champagne supernova, Definitely Maybe is a solid album from start to finish. And it has songs like Live Forever (instant classic), Slide Away (most underrated song ever), and Supersonic. I personally think that Definitely Maybe is the greatest debut record every. Oh, and I also love Be Here Now....one of my favorite Oasis songs, Don't Go Away, is on it. Here's how i rank their albums

1.) Definitely Maybe
2.) (What's the Story) Morning Glory
3.) Don't Believe The Truth
4.) The Masterplan
5.) Heathen Chemistry
6.) Be Here Now
7.) Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants

even the albums that i ranked lower i still love. it's just that its so tough since Oasis has such a great catalouge of songs...
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I love Definitely Maybe for the most part... well, maybe except for Cigarettes... but gotta go with...

Need a little time to wake uppp!!!
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I love Definitely Maybe for the most part... well, maybe except for Cigarettes... but gotta go with...

Need a little time to wake uppp!!!
I never like Ciagarettes either mainly cos it was a complete rip-off of Get it On by T Rex
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cant believe morning glory is winning this! whats up with u people!!!!!!!!
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