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Old 08-19-2005, 03:18 PM   #1
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Vitalogy could be an amazing EP!

Pearl Jam's Vitalogy, in retrospect, would have been much better as an EP methinks!

Something like this.....?

1. Spin The Black Circle
2. Not For You
3. Tremor Christ
4. Nothingman
5. Corduroy
6. Better Man
7. Immortality



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Old 08-19-2005, 03:19 PM   #2
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I've never properly listened to vitalogy outside of better man. I probably should since I have the distinct feeling it could be the only PJ record outside of Ten that I would listen to on a regular basis. PJ's later stuff just doesn't interest me much.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:23 PM   #3
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Half of it is fucking brilliant... the half that I just posted. And the other half is just trash! I mean.. Bugs? Stupid Mop? Pry To? Cmon!
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I agree but I think Last Exit should be on there too, and bugs as a hidden track...it's funny.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:45 PM   #5
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I agree but I think Last Exit should be on there too, and bugs as a hidden track...it's funny.
I don't mind Last Exit as much as the others I left out... but STBC makes for a kick ass opener though!

edit: That's true.. Bugs is kinda funny... 'should I trick them? should I eat them?...'
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No Whipping, Last Exit, or Satan's Bed?
They could have tossed in Long Road and I Got Shit and it would have been a classic album.
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No Whipping, or Satan's Bed?
I can't even bring myself to listen to those songs anymore.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:22 PM   #8
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The problem with this album was the lack of creativity by McCready, Gossard and Ament. Which in turn became an album of Eddie songs (someone should've taken all the guitars away from Eddie and told him to just stick to singing damn it).
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Satan's Bed is a great fucking song.
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No Whipping, Last Exit, or Satan's Bed?
They could have tossed in Long Road and I Got Shit and it would have been a classic album.
Kick off Pry To and Stupid Mop and put in those two songs and voila....CLASSIC!!!

Last Exit and Satan's Bed = BAD ASS!!
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I think it would have been perfectly good as a full album, just minus the weird little experimental tracks. Everything else on the album is among my favorite PJ material.

1. Last Exit
2. Spin The Black Circle
3. Not For You
4. Tremor Christ
5. Nothingman
6. Whipping
7. Corduroy
8. Satan's Bed
9. Better Man
10. Immortality
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Ur probably right - i've never liked the album as a whole...
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This not for yoU!
fuck you!@
this is not for you!!!!

Yeah. Some good times there. The song about the mop made me want to commit suicide and I wasn't even depressed at the time.
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I rarely listen to this CD.
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The song about the mop made me want to commit suicide and I wasn't even depressed at the time.


yeah, really.
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I actually love the entire album except for Stupidmop (or, as it also seems to be called, Heyfoxymophandlemama, it's me). Pry, To doesn't really do much for me, but it is less than a minute, so who cares.

I actually enjoy Bugs and Aye Davanita.

Just pretend Immortality is the last song, and it's great.
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Immortality....
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Old 08-20-2005, 10:47 AM   #18
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every decent album ever made could make a great EP
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Jeez, is no one going to defend this album? Aren't there any true blue PJ fans on the site? The album is certainly not perfect, and I could certainly do without something generic like Satan's Bed, but it's far more than an EP. You could make the greatest single album ever out of The White Album but it's not worth losing all the little musical experiments.

Every song on an album doesn't have to be a single. While I wouldn't just call up Pry, To for an individual listen, it contributes to the overall ebb and flow of the entire recording. I'm amazed that instead of praising Pearl Jam for trying new things and trying to break out of the grunge mold, they get criticized for not having enough songs that are radio-worthy. That's bullshit. I LOVE hearing Aye Davanita. And people accuse Vedder of taking himself too seriously yet begrudge him Bugs. Doesn't bother me. And Whipping may not be a fantastic song musically, but it's about the guy who shot someone at an abortion clinic and carries a lot of thematic weight.

The most important thing though, is defending Stupid Mop, which is just brilliant to me. It's like Revolution #9, which many Beatles fans despise, but it shows the artist using the studio to forge something outside the normal boundaries of what we would call a song. Let's not forget that much of this album was inspired by or a reaction to the suicide of Kurt Cobain, which affected the band enormously, Vedder most of all as he was put in a similar position by the media. The recordings of the woman talking about suicide are chilling, and if you can't respect what the band was trying to do here that's unfortunate. The album ends with the woman admitting that she has thought about killing herself, and is extremely powerful.

Don't even get me started on No Code, which is in my opinion one of the best albums of the 90's.
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I haven't really listened to No Code at all. And I absolutely love the experimental side of U2... not to mention Revolution 9. But somehow I haven't been able to get into the experimental side of Vitalogy. See, I definitely wouldn't want them to just make an album full of radio-friendly songs like Better Man, Nothingman and Corduroy. But the experimental tracks have to be interesting and not just overly pretentious ramblings. There's a lot of things going on in Revolution 9 with orchestra bits, conversation, some weird soundtrack noises, king lear being read out etc... On the other hand, Stupid Mop just seems to ramble on forever with not much variety. I think I'll give it another listen.
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