toscano said:
Neither is it the case in Football, a player actually still has to put the ball in the back of the net to win.
Fine. Let's bring numbers into it.
The conversion rate on penalty kicks is ~70%, so let's say that Grosso's dive earned his team 0.7 goals and Totti earned the other 0.3.
Now, in baseball, a team can win with no player actually making contact with the ball, runs can be brought in by walking, i.e, the pitcher missing the invisible ever changing strike zone. So yes, a player CAN account for 100% for his teams points, and he need do nothing other than stand around.
In theory, yes. In reality, it's not nearly as easy as you think it is to take a walk, 'cause you have to judge in .25 seconds whether a 90 MPH fastball is going to be a strike, a ball, or hit you in the face. Only about 5-10% of at bats result in a walk, and you still need four walks to score.
In football a player can play up and fall from incidental contact in the end zone and draw a Pass Interference call, giving the ball to the opposition on the 1-yard line where they then get FOUR attempts to advance it one yard.
True. The conversion rate on 1st-and-goal from the 1 is probably around 70%, same as for penalty kicks. Bill Simmons from ESPN has theorized that some day a team is going to make a living by throwing 50-yard passes into a crowd and trying to draw pass interference calls this way. However, teams score on average 3 touchdowns per game, as opposed to 1.25 goals per soccer match, so it's not as severe a punishment.
The thing that's really ridiculous is that a guy will often be rewarded for a dive with a PK even though there are 4-5 other defenders in the box and his chance of scoring on the play is only about 5-10%. The penalty for such a foul should be much less severe. Give the referee discretion as to whether he should award a free kick, a penalty kick, or nothing. And maybe move the penalty kick out to 30 yards/let the keeper move off his line to challenge the shot/do something to make it more difficult.
In Basketball players flop all the time and draw fouls, but again, someone actually still has to put the ball in the basket
True. You can see plenty of people bitching about this in our NBA thread. But still, a really biased referee might give a team 5, or at the most 10 points out of 100.
The big problem with penalty kicks and red cards is that very often the penalty greatly outweighs the infraction, and this just encourages players to take dives and fake injuries. Why work so hard to set up a good scoring chance when you can just fall over and get a guy ejected or get a free penalty kick?
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Fifa should retrain every referee at the world cup we only ever got shit ones
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Mr Head-butt will play again...
