Self-financed albums

Layton · 08-06-2005, 06:25 AM

Are these the ultimate non-sellout albums? If so, are they any better than record company financed albums? What are the best self-financed albums of all time? The only one I can think of right now is the Jimmy Eat World self-titled album in 2001. That thing sucked, though.

My feeling is that anybody who takes record company money to record is selling out to a degree, but that fact doesn't bother me in the least. To me, money matters alot of the time when trying to record great music.

Se7en · 08-06-2005, 07:05 AM

maynard said it best:

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all you know about me is what i've sold you, dumb fuck. i sold out long before you ever heard my name. i sold my soul to make a record, dip shit, And you bought one. all you read and wear or see and hear on tv is a product begging for your fatass dirty dollar so ... shut up and buy my new record send more money fuck you, buddy.

Moonlit_Angel · 08-06-2005, 07:17 AM

Wow.

I love the subtlety in that statement.

Angela

gareth brown · 08-06-2005, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by Layton
What are the best self-financed albums of all time?

Led Zeppelin I.

Layton · 08-06-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by gareth brown

Led Zeppelin I.

Is that album any better or more pure in spirit than Led Zeppelin II? Did 'selling out' somehow tarnish Led Zeppelin? My answer is no to both those questions, but I'm wondering if you concur.

knox · 08-06-2005, 12:18 PM

Wasn't the White Stripes' Elephant self-financed?

**KhanadaRhodes** · 08-06-2005, 12:53 PM

duran duran's astronaut was self-financed. not my favourite album of theirs, but it's really good.

gareth brown · 08-06-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by Layton

Is that album any better or more pure in spirit than Led Zeppelin II? Did 'selling out' somehow tarnish Led Zeppelin? My answer is no to both those questions, but I'm wondering if you concur.

I've always held Led Zeppelin in high regard not only for the amazing musicianship, but also because of the fact that that's all they've ever been concerned about. The music.

I'm not sure about who financed the recording and production of Led Zep II, so I couldn't really say they sold out. The music, to me stuck to the same excellent standard so I really couldn't say they sold out or not if Atlantic Records had financed the record.

I'm not really sure if that answers your question.

Layton · 08-06-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by knox
Wasn't the White Stripes' Elephant self-financed?

Not sure, but I'm guessing not since their album before that one was held in pretty high regard. It seems a record company would've snatched them up after the critical and cult success of their debut album.

Layton · 08-06-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by gareth brown

I've always held Led Zeppelin in high regard not only for the amazing musicianship, but also because of the fact that that's all they've ever been concerned about. The music.

I'm not sure about who financed the recording and production of Led Zep II, so I couldn't really say they sold out. The music, to me stuck to the same excellent standard so I really couldn't say they sold out or not if Atlantic Records had financed the record.

I'm not really sure if that answers your question.

Yeah, you answered me. I understand where you're coming from.

tarquinsuperb · 08-06-2005, 02:18 PM

I believe that David Gray's White Ladder was self financed, I assume that most on here won't be fans but I think that it's gorgeous and it did sell well.
In my opinion there does seem to be a state of emotion on that album that isn't quite there on his other stuff, but I don't know whether that's what you are driving at.

gareth brown · 08-06-2005, 03:58 PM

Good album!

flangerchorus · 08-06-2005, 04:10 PM

Jerry Cantrell " Degradation Trip"

impy13 · 08-06-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by Se7en
maynard said it best

Maynard ALWAYS says it best

Se7en · 08-06-2005, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by inmyplace13

Maynard ALWAYS says it best

fuck l. ron hubbard and fuck all his clones.
learn to swim.

indra · 08-06-2005, 11:39 PM

Wasn't Toad The Wet Sprocket's first album (Bread & Circus) self financed? As I recall it was quite good also.

IWasBored · 08-06-2005, 11:49 PM

darkbuster, both albums. not touching the sell-out thing, self-financed albums are a royal pain in the ass to get ahold of at time or release and until the band gets financed/signed because pretty much the only place to get them is when you go see the band at a show. little to no distribution.

Layton · 08-07-2005, 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by tarquinsuperb
I believe that David Gray's White Ladder was self financed, I assume that most on here won't be fans but I think that it's gorgeous and it did sell well.
In my opinion there does seem to be a state of emotion on that album that isn't quite there on his other stuff, but I don't know whether that's what you are driving at.

Come to think of it, White Ladder did have a better state of emotion than his more recent stuff. He's really turned into one of those 'coffeehouse' sounding bores, if you ask me. I'll blame that on his A&R guy. So, I'd say the record company has misguided Gray's music. Time for him to go back to financing his own stuff----lol.

fah · 08-07-2005, 06:51 AM

The Police were big into putting their own money into making their records so that they wouldn't be forever in debt to their record company

08-06-2005, 06:25 AM	#1
Layton War Child Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 750 Local Time: 07:44 PM	Self-financed albums Are these the ultimate non-sellout albums? If so, are they any better than record company financed albums? What are the best self-financed albums of all time? The only one I can think of right now is the Jimmy Eat World self-titled album in 2001. That thing sucked, though. My feeling is that anybody who takes record company money to record is selling out to a degree, but that fact doesn't bother me in the least. To me, money matters alot of the time when trying to record great music. __________________

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KhanadaRhodes Paper Gods Forum Administrator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: a vampire in the limousine Posts: 60,682 Local Time: 06:44 PM	duran duran's astronaut was self-financed. not my favourite album of theirs, but it's really good. __________________

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fah Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In my house with the rest of fahs Posts: 20,147 Local Time: 03:44 PM	The Police were big into putting their own money into making their records so that they wouldn't be forever in debt to their record company __________________

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Moonlit_Angel Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo... Posts: 20,286 Local Time: 06:44 PM	Wow. I love the subtlety in that statement. Angela

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knox Refugee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 1,611 Local Time: 06:44 PM	Wasn't the White Stripes' Elephant self-financed?

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tarquinsuperb War Child Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ingerland Posts: 658 Local Time: 12:44 AM	I believe that David Gray's White Ladder was self financed, I assume that most on here won't be fans but I think that it's gorgeous and it did sell well. In my opinion there does seem to be a state of emotion on that album that isn't quite there on his other stuff, but I don't know whether that's what you are driving at.

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gareth brown Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,593 Local Time: 10:44 AM	Good album!

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flangerchorus The Fly Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 240 Local Time: 11:44 PM	Jerry Cantrell " Degradation Trip"

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indra ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,689 Local Time: 07:44 PM	Wasn't Toad The Wet Sprocket's first album (Bread & Circus) self financed? As I recall it was quite good also.

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IWasBored Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 36,783 Local Time: 07:44 PM	darkbuster, both albums. not touching the sell-out thing, self-financed albums are a royal pain in the ass to get ahold of at time or release and until the band gets financed/signed because pretty much the only place to get them is when you go see the band at a show. little to no distribution.