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Old 03-24-2003, 09:16 PM   #201
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I think that Adrian Brody is pretty cute! I had never really noticed him before last night but my eyes were glued to the TV screen! I must rush out to the Piano right away! He has that sort of angular, Edgeiness that appeals to me...... (sorry Sicy!)

I have not yet seen the Piano or the Hours (I am very behind on my movies this year) but I LOVED Chicago. I also loved LOTR, but I think it will sweep everything next year. Gangs was of course a very well made movie, but there was just something about the characters...none of them did it for me, and when I can't relate to anyone, I enjoy the movie less.

As for Cameron Diaz, that woman has the most enormous mouth I have ever seen! I swear she could stuff an entire apple in there no problem! It annoyed me that her hair was dripping over her eyes and that she was chewing gum too.....sometimes she looks beautiful, but most of the time she just bugs me.

Selma looked gorgeous. Considering how she carried that entire movie on her own, I think it's kind of sad that she didn't win.

Oh, also, I believe that was a dove (peace) pin they were all wearing.
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i wouldn't go and say that i identified with bill the butcher..but i still thought it was an amazing character
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Oh...that didn't come out quite right...I didn't mean relate/identify, I meant more "become involved with" or absorbed with the character in some way.

I also wish DDL would grow his hair back....
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Oh...that didn't come out quite right...I didn't mean relate/identify, I meant more "become involved with" or absorbed with the character in some way.

I also wish DDL would grow his hair back....

heh, i see what you mean now...

don't know, kinda like the shaved head look i don't really find day-lewis all that attractive, to tell you the truth...i just really like him as an actor...
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Okay...I personally don't think Adrian Brody is cute.

But that's just me. .

And while I agree with a lot of what he was saying, he went on awfully long, and eventually I was like, "Uh...okay...we'd like to continue the show now..."

Michael Moore-I hadn't heard much about him until last night-I agree with his little rant on Bush, but maybe this wasn't the best place to do it, after all that had happened yesterday.

Eh. Oh, well. He said it, it's done, we should just move on.

Anywho, on to the big surprise of the night (at least for me):

I am seriously shocked that Eminem won the Oscar. I honestly did not think the people would give it to him. While I do like Eminem's music, and while I do like that song, I wish U2 had won-in my opinion, I thought their song was the best, and it would've been cool to see them win an Oscar.

Their performance was awesome-the lyric change was interesting.

Paul Simon's song made me teary-eyed last night-that song's really sweet.

I figured "Chicago" would win a good deal of awards. I have not seen that movie yet, so I can't say how it is, but my mom said, "You know, sometimes there's a lot of hype about a movie, and that movie gets awards based solely on that-and sometimes the movie really isn't as great as people make it out to be."

Maybe I'll check it out sometime when it comes to video or something. I dunno.

So, yeah...there's my commentary.

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Academy loves glitzy, glamourous? Look at the past winners:
A Beautiful Mind, Gladiator, American Beauty, Shakespeare in Love, Titanic, The English Patient, Braveheart, Schindler's List. Granted, Gladiator, Shakespeare, Titanic, and maybe Braveheart are BIG movies, large casts, special effects, but glitz and glamour and razzle dazzle? I don't see it.

For the record, just because I enjoyed Chicago and didn't think ALL the nominees were better films (maybe some, not all) doesn't mean that 'm not a 'real' film fan. We can have varied tastes and opinions, but still be educated, intelligent, informed, critical, 'real' movie fans.
Thank you. I actually think Chicago's win went against the Academy's general tendencies. The Academy tends to go for sort of grand, dramatic, "important" films, and not those that are seen as "entertaining" (ie musicals and comedies). Musicals have won in the past, so it's not unprecedented, but if the Academy loves musicals so much, why didn't Moulin Rouge win last year? (I actually think Moulin paved the way for Chicago's win). Chicago's win was only predictable in the sense that everyone predicted it would win and it ended up winning.

Also, while I truly do not think Chicago was the best film of the year, I still thought it was a better film than both Gangs and The Hours. I liked both of those movies and appreciated what they were trying to do, but Chicago was far-better realized. And, sorry, but nobody here has the right to say what opinions "real" film fans should have.

Note that I'm not disagreeing that the Academy needs to broaden it's horizons, but I would say this more in the sense that they need to not just vote for whatever has the most buzz surrounding it.
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--Steve Martin is becoming the best part of the Oscars. Anyone who has heard his stand-up routine from the late-1970's knows that he's a brilliant comedian, and the Oscars proved that he's still capable of winning an audience.

--I don't agree with the winners in the main categories, nor do I care enough about the Oscars to hold any grudges against the choices. It's all about politics, and as soon as we realize this the sooner we'll turn the channel to "The Man Show" on Comedy Central How else can ANYONE explain why Peter O'Toole had to wait over 40 years to receive ONE, and why Martin Scorcese, Robert Altman, and Glenn Close haven't won a single statuette?

--U2's "Hands That Built America" is one of their weakest songs. That's just my opinion, so I have no qualms in saying it didn't deserved Best Song. Eminem's 'Lose Yourself" was a huge hit, one of his best offerings, and touched more people than the chamberistic, drone of U2's "...America". The Oscar usually goes to slow, promenading, ballad (Streets of Philadelphia) or a Disney pop song, so hearing a rap song win was a breath of fresh air.

--Michael Moore's speech was uplifting for anyone prone to disagree with Governor Bush. For a country so divided over the war it was odd that his remarks were met with so much hatred. Just two weeks ago the entire nation....heck....the entire WORLD was bitterly divided over whether killing Iraqis was a viable solution to the problem, and then suddenly everyone appeared to change sides just because "our boys....ie troops" were risking their lives. Are we all too stupid to realize that dissent from war is different than dissent from supporting the troops? Are we?

His speech was blunt and direct, which is exactly what it needed to be. We are at war. This isn't a skip thru the park....this is people's deaths, people's lives. This is something that SHOULD give birth to passion and directness. Michael's points were all truthful.....non-fiction to use his term, and those points cannot be denied. They CAN be booed, they CAN be silenced by sheepish conformists, but that CANNOT be denied.

Adrien Brody and several other individuals made elloquent statements, pussy-footed their way around, and appealed to the middle of the road. They're comments were vague and usually resulted in a one word summarization, "Peace". Let's have peace, bring us peace, no war is peace....blah blah blah. We all know that peace is preferable, so does it matter if we hear someone say that theory is a calm, monotose manner? NO. So why are we surprised that most people applauded that delivering?

Moore was the slap in the face that Americans needed. He was confident, he was brash, he was sure of himself. His stature, his delivery will encourage more dissent and empower people like you and me to question our leadership. Something that people today appear to have forgetten about.

Viva Moore, Viva Taco Bell, viva U2, viva Claritan (it really does work!), and viva "viva", because without Spanish words that illicit rage, what else do we have?


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I'd be less disappointed about Chicago winning if it hadn't come along so rapidly on the heels of Moulin Rouge. Its almost as if a couple of execs saw Baz Luhrmann's film and said "Hey thats a good idea, but lets take a well respected stage musical, throw millions of bucks at it and make it as Hollywood as possible...it'll win Oscars and we'll be hailed for returning the musical to prominence."
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Hmm I dunno Betty I see it that Baz did a wonderful arty piece of work, very individually........something I enjoyed as equally as I did with Chicago, but in a whole different traffic lane.


So yes, to me they run head to head, but one leads to Hollywood success, and the other leads to Hollywood buckcess.

get me?






I dont even get myself now.........
though one is in a completely diff league to the other......Moulin was a story based on a place......Chicago was a story based on a musical




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Good movie, Chicago, didn't deserve all the hype and praise, but then again most Oscar-hyped movies never do ('A Beautiful Mind anyone?). I'm glad Catherine Zeta Jones won, though. Go, Catherine, do it for Britain!

Actually, I believe that CHICAGO is getting all the hype and all the credit for something MOULIN ROUGE did, which was the revival of the musicals. Everyone goes on about how Chicago has revived the musical, how its restored the confidence of the executives in investing money into new musicals, when it was Moulin Rouge, and Baz Luhrmann's amazing vision which did all that.

Viva Daniel Day Lewis, the true winner of the Oscar!
Viva Mr. Scorsese, the true winner of the Oscar!

Razzle dazzle my foot.

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I love Danny Day!


Anthony loves Danny Day too!


Hey Ant, no doubt u saw him win at the Golden Globes........he seemed so nervous!

AND after seeing his face as he applauded U2's performance, u could tell he was at home, and a bit emotional.

I just wanted to..........smoooooooch him badly!


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While I wasn't overcome with a feeling to smooch him (lol), I have always admired and liked Danny Day; not only is he an AMAZING actor, he is incredibly down to Earth. Oh, and he lives in Italy as a cobbler and is married to the daughter of the playwright Arthur Miller - how cool is that?

I was a bit disappointed with his decision to 'boycott Hollywood' and thus stop doing movies for a while as he once called them 'sad tossers' or something - but glad to see he's back. He single-handedly stole the movie from everyone else (including Mr. Scorsese's direction) and was the most unique performance from all the Actor nominees. No, 'Gangs' may not have been labelled as important as 'The Pianist', but Mr. Day Lewis deserved it far more than Adrien Brody (not do discredit him, but if you watch Day Lewis in 'Gangs', the man is on fire).

Yup, I saw him at the GOlden Globes and at the Baftas (where he won), in all of them he looked overcome with emotion and intensely shy. Very cool guy indeed.

Mr Day Lewis rocks. He should have won.
Oh, and Mr. Scorsese too.

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u know what, I adore him too Ant...........I loved him in In The Name....but I STILL have to see the one he has been praised about the most - My Left Foot.


I never got to see Gangs man........I still want to but pple I wanna go with arent ***************** interested!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I like to savour these things. What a way to hear The Hands That Built America for the first time. Live....I'm glad it worked out that way for me, to see them perform it at the Academy Awards...it was very cool indeed. It brings a tear now to think of Bono almost keening there. I didn't get to see Gangs of New York either maddie. It will be another ocassion to look forward to.I haven't even seen the movie and I know Daniel Day Lewis would have earned the Academy Award...next time.

I must admit the song that did win was a ripper too. That lady's voice was amazing, exciting. I look forward to seeing Frida one day too.
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Frida ROCKED. But it didn't win Best song, it won 'Best Score'. But I know what you mean, gorgeous music.

And I couldn't help notice that someone in this thread at the beginning mentioned that they cut the lesbian kisses in 'The Hours'; is this true? That would be... ridiculous! They allowed it in Britain, and I know that if they did cut out the lesbian kisses it would be a very different movie!

Surely not. Anyone else seen 'The Hours' in America?

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daniel day-lewis kicked SERIOUS ass as bill the butcher. no question about it. i'm so fucking sick of reading critics saying that he was annoying and over the top. he was perfect as bill the butcher. the most insane character and seemed...more real? beleivable? than some kind of psychopathic killer normally seems in a movie...

*wonering how many times i've posted saying he's the best actor ever*

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he was fucking amazing in 'my left foot' as well. 'in the name of the father' has got to be one of the best movies i've ever seen; i hardly ever watch movies multiple times but when i rented it i watched it one night and then again the next day. i liked 'the boxer' too.

scorsese does rock. he rocks very much indeed. he's made so many movies that are far more amazing than tons of others who have won best director. it's quite pathetic on the acaedmy's part that he's never won. i like watching movies for the entertainment of watching a movie, not cos i like to examine aspects of filmmaking. i took a class in high school on films, and had to write more papers analyzing movies than i'd wish to remember. guh..i hated that class...and the teacher. he'd interupt you when you were trying to participate in a discussion and talk over you when you tried to finish your point. and he was too dense to notice when i was trying to pick a fight...and insulted 'arsenic and old lace' (with cary grant, based on a play, i think), which is one of the funniest movies i've ever seen...uh...sorry...[/tangent] but come to think of it, he only thought scorsese was OK
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I like to savour these things. What a way to hear The Hands That Built America for the first time. Live....I'm glad it worked out that way for me, to see them perform it at the Academy Awards...it was very cool indeed. It brings a tear now to think of Bono almost keening there. I didn't get to see Gangs of New York either maddie. It will be another ocassion to look forward to.I haven't even seen the movie and I know Daniel Day Lewis would have earned the Academy Award...next time.

I must admit the song that did win was a ripper too. That lady's voice was amazing, exciting. I look forward to seeing Frida one day too.

next time? how do we know day-lewis will be in another movie? as much as i'd love to see him be in more movies, i respect the reasons he gives in interviews and articles for not being in tons of movies. he's cool
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